NCAA Tourney Line I Don't Get.... Arizona PK VS Wichita State.. Trap Game?

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  • existential
    SBR MVP
    • 07-21-14
    • 2963

    #36
    Originally posted by KVB
    Many lines come across the board on this one from unsophisticated lines that give Arizona the win to sharper forecasts favoring Wichita State. The general betting public, with no real numbers to be triggered in the race but use a variety of “handicapping” methods are uniting with Arizona here.

    That said there are some groups seeking Wichita and those may include some of the sharper forecasters. I have Wichita State winning by about 16 points in a 137 or 138 point game.

    Make no mistake I believe, with the pressures on Wichita, that Wichita should actually be favored here. I don’t have time to get into the mechanics on why the book opened where it did, but I can assure there is a reason they are holding at a pick.

    If that line shifts toward Wichita in a in a sudden move and it appears to get steam, effectively letting the cat out of the bag, Wichita could be in trouble and the sharper groups could give one back. The blind squirrels will get their nut and never even realize why.

    Good Luck.

    great call thus far

    it's always great seeing Sean Miller look like a clown on an annual basis, never seen him outcoach anyone
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    • KVB
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 05-29-14
      • 74817

      #37
      Originally posted by existential
      great call thus far

      it's always great seeing Sean Miller look like a clown on an annual basis, never seen him outcoach anyone
      I never did see that line movement I was looking for so I suppose they kept the cat in the bag...lol.

      Still a lot of game left and even though I didn't bet this game, I usually don't like my forecasts to be leading early.

      USC hanging in there for the Pac 12 tonight.

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      • JayMoney24_7
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 10-10-13
        • 997

        #38
        Wichita is going to win this game for sure. Lock.
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        • JayMoney24_7
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 10-10-13
          • 997

          #39
          Arizona is throwing this game. Lol just look at the highlights! Arizona players flailing their arms giving the ball up. That's called working together to achieve a loss.
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          • TPowell
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 02-21-08
            • 18842

            #40
            Originally posted by JayMoney24_7
            Arizona is throwing this game. Lol just look at the highlights! Arizona players flailing their arms giving the ball up. That's called working together to achieve a loss.
            Can't tell if serious or not. If so, you're a moron
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            • NardVa
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 10-02-07
              • 8325

              #41
              Arizona is gone end the game with at least 25 turnovers. I wouldn't be surprised if Miller is fired on the plane ride home..lol....
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              • NardVa
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 10-02-07
                • 8325

                #42
                Arizona got more turnovers than free throws made, shots made and assists combined.
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                • KKoz9
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-07-06
                  • 1982

                  #43
                  This is basically the same Wichita team that went 35-1 a couple years ago...best 3 players are seniors and they just had sh1tty start to the season with some injuries
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                  • packerd_00
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 05-22-13
                    • 17811

                    #44
                    What the hell man,how were these guys a 9 seed.
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                    • packerd_00
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 05-22-13
                      • 17811

                      #45
                      Arizona is total shit.
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                      • Breadloser
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 03-16-16
                        • 568

                        #46
                        Nice work by the "committee"
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                        • johnnyvegas13
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                          • 05-21-15
                          • 27897

                          #47
                          Surprised at what I'm seeing

                          Oregon could be an early exit also
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                          • Plaza23
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 12-29-13
                            • 7392

                            #48
                            Arizona +19.5 live if you want it.
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                            • jeffchitown
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-21-16
                              • 1859

                              #49
                              Lol why am i still watching this game. Youd think we were watching a 1 seed vs 16 seed game
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                              • mikewlgm
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-04-15
                                • 1031

                                #50
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                                • NardVa
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                                  • 10-02-07
                                  • 8325

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
                                  Surprised at what I'm seeing

                                  Oregon could be an early exit also
                                  Whole Pac-12 is trash. I don't think anybody from their conference makes it to next weekend.
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                                  • packerd_00
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 05-22-13
                                    • 17811

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Breadloser
                                    Nice work by the "committee"
                                    Yeah really eh!
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                                    • Plaza23
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 12-29-13
                                      • 7392

                                      #53
                                      Arizona is +20.5 live right now. You guys think they have enough pride to lose by less than 20?
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                                      • mikewlgm
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 04-04-15
                                        • 1031

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by packerd_00
                                        Arizona is total shit.
                                        Living off the name....when they were decent 10-15 years ago.
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                                        • Breadloser
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 03-16-16
                                          • 568

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by NardVa
                                          Whole Pac-12 is trash. I don't think anybody from their conference makes it to next weekend.
                                          Utah will bury Seton Hall in front of a homewtown crowd on Saturday. Gonzaga will be a challenge but I have to think they'll still get through.
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                                          • stackz125
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-03-16
                                            • 6191

                                            #56
                                            A fking set up
                                            Unreal
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                                            • packerd_00
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 05-22-13
                                              • 17811

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by mikewlgm
                                              Living off the name....when they were decent 10-15 years ago.
                                              You got that right.
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                                              • mikewlgm
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 04-04-15
                                                • 1031

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by NardVa
                                                Whole Pac-12 is trash. I don't think anybody from their conference makes it to next weekend.
                                                Oregon? who knows? Utah is legit. Utah beat Duke but lost to Miami in reg season. They also have a brutal path.....either Gonzaga or Seton Hall next and then Mich St.

                                                Cal is good but young.
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                                                • rm18
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 09-20-05
                                                  • 22291

                                                  #59
                                                  Why even play the rest of the tourney? There is no team in the country that can beat the Shockers.
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                                                  • TPowell
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 02-21-08
                                                    • 18842

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by rm18
                                                    Why even play the rest of the tourney? There is no team in the country that can beat the Shockers.
                                                    I concur, go ahead and pay me my 65 to 1 ticket
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                                                    • KVB
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 05-29-14
                                                      • 74817

                                                      #61
                                                      USC giving Providence a headache!

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                                                      • packerd_00
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 05-22-13
                                                        • 17811

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by mikewlgm
                                                        Oregon? who knows? Utah is legit. Utah beat Duke but lost to Miami in reg season. They also have a brutal path.....either Gonzaga or Seton Hall next and then Mich St.

                                                        Cal is good but young.
                                                        Gonzaga never shows up,they gotta be the most hyped up team every MM.
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                                                        • Ra77er
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                                                          • 06-20-11
                                                          • 10969

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by KVB
                                                          USC giving Providence a headache!


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                                                          • mikewlgm
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 04-04-15
                                                            • 1031

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by Ra77er
                                                            Monty python?
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                                                            • jtoler
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 12-17-13
                                                              • 30967

                                                              #65
                                                              Ive long said Miller sucks, doesnt know how to coach the talent thats come through there, his brother would do a much better job at Arizona.
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                                                              • packerd_00
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 05-22-13
                                                                • 17811

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Plaza23
                                                                Arizona is +20.5 live right now. You guys think they have enough pride to lose by less than 20?
                                                                Did you take it.
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                                                                • Ra77er
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 06-20-11
                                                                  • 10969

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Wow what a stunner!!
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                                                                  • unde0087
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                                                                    • 03-27-08
                                                                    • 28958

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by rm18
                                                                    Why even play the rest of the tourney? There is no team in the country that can beat the Shockers.
                                                                    Are we really crowning this team because they beat up on Vandy and Arizona?
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                                                                    • pavyracer
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 04-12-07
                                                                      • 82839

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by unde0087
                                                                      Are we really crowning this team because they beat up on Vandy and Arizona?
                                                                      Nothing to laugh about. They are favored by 3 points vs #3 seed. Think about it for a second. The #3 seed is an underdog to team #65.
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                                                                      • stevek173
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                                                                        • 03-29-08
                                                                        • 27598

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Miami is an awesome bet. This zona team just flat out sucked sometimes all year and smashing them on a bad shooting night does not mean witch st will beat Miami. They are good but miami is better.
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