defense wins championships right ???

[homie1975]

Tiny play on Broncos +5.5

The best D cam will have faced in his entire football career

[BIGDAY]

Pass. Arizona's D & SeaChickens D were fairly decent too...

[homie1975]

Those games were in carolina. Second half of Seattle gm their d shut down cam and co.

Zona had 7 turnovers right?

Now they cross the whole country and 2 weeks of hearing how great they are.
Caro looks overvalued.

[ByAnYMe9n$]

Decent true !! AZ doesnt have the front like Denver Seattle doesnt have the front like denver but do have a similar secondary TO's by Wilson gave Carolina a big lead Manning plays smart TO free Denver D will keep them in the game n keep the score close im on the Donkeys plus the Points

[jjgold]

YES

[BIGDAY]

Okay. GL Homie!

[stevenash]

The only time a top ranked defense got beat by a top ranked offense in a Super Bowl was 1989

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1989/

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1989/opp.htm

Every other time the top ranked defense has won.
I've been preaching defense wins for years, 1985 Bears, LT's 1986 Giants.......

Hell, I was preaching all last week New England wasn't beating Denver's defense last week.

Bronco's +6 all all day for me.

Yes, Manning is at the end of the road career wise. but he's been in these games before, and last time I looked Sanders and Thomas are quality receivers. Hillman and CJ Anderson aren't Gayle Sayers and Barry Sanders, but they ain't chopped liver.

For those who think this game is a Panther slam dunk, they are in for a rude awakening.

Yes, more times than not, defense wins.

[pimike]

If you like Denver, I recommend you buy it to 7.

[homie1975]

If you like Denver, I recommend you buy it to 7.

Crazy juice. If 5.5 isn't enough for u then I think u tease it up and drop the total to below 40 and go over. Crazy special teams and turnovers happen in SB and scores get out of hand.

[pabonaparte]

If you like Denver, I recommend you buy it to 7.

Do you have a play on this game, pimike? And are you the same person I think I follow on twitter?

[Chi_archie]

very good quarterbacks win alot too

2014	Patriots	8	4	6	Tom Brady
2013	Seahawks	1	9	5	Russell Wilson
2012	Ravens	12	10	11	Joe Flacco
2011	Giants	25	9	17	Eli Manning
2010	Packers	2	10	6	Aaron Rodgers
2009	Saints	20	1	10.5	Drew Brees
2008	Steelers	1	20	10.5	Ben Rothlisberger
2007	Giants	17	14	15.5	Eli Manning
2006	Colts	23	2	12.5	Peyton Manning
2005	Steelers	4	9	6.5	Ben Rothlisberger
2004	Patriots	2	4	3	Tom Brady

[Mr.Goodkat]

Defense wins and Denver is as healthy as a horse. Going big on Peyton's swan song....

[homie1975]

very good quarterbacks win alot too

2014	Patriots	8	4	6	Tom Brady
2013	Seahawks	1	9	5	Russell Wilson
2012	Ravens	12	10	11	Joe Flacco
2011	Giants	25	9	17	Eli Manning
2010	Packers	2	10	6	Aaron Rodgers
2009	Saints	20	1	10.5	Drew Brees
2008	Steelers	1	20	10.5	Ben Rothlisberger
2007	Giants	17	14	15.5	Eli Manning
2006	Colts	23	2	12.5	Peyton Manning
2005	Steelers	4	9	6.5	Ben Rothlisberger
2004	Patriots	2	4	3	Tom Brady

Archie give us a list of the losing qbs in SBs. They're also very good.
95% of starting qbs in sb history have been good so either team that wins can say the qb was good.

LY russell wilson lost
Year before peyton lost
Etc etc

[homie1975]

Roethlisberger lost.
Brady lost twice

Etc etc

[unde0087]

Defense does win championships but you still have to score and the way manning is throwing the ball I don't know that denver is going to be lighting up the scoreboard

[Cuse0323]

I think the way Manning is throwing the ball is not nearly as bad as people seem to think. Was feeling good about Denver with the world on Cam, but looks like SBR likes the Broncos.

Rolling with that D though. And think Kubiak and Phillips will have the edge in gameplanning.

[lakerboy]

Panthers oline won't let ware and miller thru and panthers have a unique running game that denver won't stop.

[DrunkHorseplayer]

According to the chart, six of the last nine have been won by a team who's offense out-ranked it's defense.

[Aye J Mac]

I love it bro

[ByeShea]

Tiny play on Broncos +5.5

The best D cam will have faced in his entire football career

In the 1980s? Yes, defense wins championships.

[Thor4140]

The only time a top ranked defense got beat by a top ranked offense in a Super Bowl was 1989

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1989/

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1989/opp.htm

Every other time the top ranked defense has won.
I've been preaching defense wins for years, 1985 Bears, LT's 1986 Giants.......

Hell, I was preaching all last week New England wasn't beating Denver's defense last week.

Bronco's +6 all all day for me.

Yes, Manning is at the end of the road career wise. but he's been in these games before, and last time I looked Sanders and Thomas are quality receivers. Hillman and CJ Anderson aren't Gayle Sayers and Barry Sanders, but they ain't chopped liver.

For those who think this game is a Panther slam dunk, they are in for a rude awakening.

Yes, more times than not, defense wins.

First of all im on Denver in this game for my own reasons but your reasons are great if it wasn't for Carolina having a really good defense also. Your comparisons are not even close. Did the 85 bears go up against a defense comparable to Carolina's? How about the Giants in 86. Was the New England's defense this year as good as Carolina's? I highly doubt it. When i hear this nonsense i just shake my Head. Two years ago Seattle came in against Denver and smashed them because of a great defense. Well the problem with denver that game is that their defense was mediocre. Carolina defense is far from mediocre. People talk about this Denver defense like they are the only one on the field that can play.

[sweethook]

no sir , scoring wins

[KVB]

My forecast of Carolina winning 31-20 basically views these defenses as the same and finds the difference between the two teams in the offense.

[EmpireMaker]

Tiny play on Broncos +5.5

The best D cam will have faced in his entire football career

Problem is Denver's offense is weak and the Panthers have a stout defense (very close to as good as Denver's) and Carolina's offense is much better than Denver's.

[TheMoneyShot]

All I can say is... I can't speak for Paco, Deuce, NoCoin, or any of the other posters here in Michigan... but in my area... everywhere I go people want Peyton to win it. So I guess that means they're on Denver. It's like 80/20 everywhere I go. No joke.

His arm is absolutely terrible. Will they give him a steroid or something before the game? Might as well... they aren't going to be checking for doping with one game left.

[pinchegringo]

All I can say is... I can't speak for Paco, Deuce, NoCoin, or any of the other posters here in Michigan... but in my area... everywhere I go people want Peyton to win it. So I guess that means they're on Denver. It's like 80/20 everywhere I go. No joke.

His arm is absolutely terrible. Will they give him a steroid or something before the game? Might as well... they aren't going to be checking for doping with one game left.

This was my concern too, but he looked more than capable against NE, NE D isnt CAR D but his arm looked younger. So yes, he has prbly been on that juice all year just for these 3 games.

ALl he really has to do is not throw INTs in his own end of the field and they will be fine.

[GunShard]

SBR is on the Broncos and the public is on the Panthers.
SBR vs the public. Let's go SBR sharps.

[Plopowitz]

I'm with you Homey!!

And in response to Archie
I believe the 2013 Seahawks and that defense would have busted up both the 2009 Saints and the 2006 Colts.

[MarcusPaige]

Those games were in carolina. Second half of Seattle gm their d shut down cam and co.

Zona had 7 turnovers right?

Now they cross the whole country and 2 weeks of hearing how great they are.
Caro looks overvalued.

You have to be completely retarded to think Seattle actually shut down Carolina in the second half. Once an NFL team gets up 31 it is virtually impossible for them to lose without turning the ball over multiple times. They're also not going to reveal their playoff playbook when it's almost impossible to lose they game. Their whole strategy was to run clock and hold on and that's what they did. Keeping a team in hyper conservative mode from scoring after they are beating you by 31 points is NOT an accomplishment.

[homie1975]

In super bowls things tend to get amplified due to nerves etc. Nervous ball carriers cough up the ball and nervous qbs make bad throws. I think the nerves will be mostly carolina players and the terrific broncos d will take advantage.

Don't forget special teams as well. Experience plus HOF qb plus best D in football.

Advantage DENVER

[homie1975]

You have to be completely retarded to think Seattle actually shut down Carolina in the second half. Once an NFL team gets up 31 it is virtually impossible for them to lose without turning the ball over multiple times. They're also not going to reveal their playoff playbook when it's almost impossible to lose they game. Their whole strategy was to run clock and hold on and that's what they did. Keeping a team in hyper conservative mode from scoring after they are beating you by 31 points is NOT an accomplishment.

When seattle made it 31-14 at the 7:40 mark of the 3rd qtr and had ALL of the momenrum, you don't think carolina changed from conservative to attacking offense? Then you sir are the retard

The last 22 mins of the game they tried in earnest to move the ball and get first downs but the could not

[DOM_Toretto]

I got Denver at 12/1 to win SB

NOT hedging

Took sheriff +6

[MarcusPaige]

When seattle made it 31-14 at the 7:40 mark of the 3rd qtr and had ALL of the momenrum, you don't think carolina changed from conservative to attacking offense? Then you sir are the retard

The last 22 mins of the game they tried in earnest to move the ball and get first downs but the could not

Look at the box score dipshit. They didn't so much as ATTEMPT a pass over 10 yards in the ENTIRE SECOND HALF.

ETA: Correction, they tried one dagger pass to Ginn very early in the third, after that, NOTHING but dink and dunk rest of the game.

[homie1975]

Look at the box score dipshit. They didn't so much as ATTEMPT a pass over 10 yards in the ENTIRE SECOND HALF.

ETA: Correction, they tried one dagger pass to Ginn very early in the third, after that, NOTHING but dink and dunk rest of the game.

Watch your mouth in my thread u fukking kunt.

The second half must be taken into consideration when capping this game, as do zona 7 turnovers.

It's clear you're a carolina Homer

[homie1975]

I'm a 60% posted ats capper here. No one will calm me names got that marcus kuntt