BREAKING: Police: At least 26 dead in violence around Paris, hostage-taking in theate

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/c...is_reports_of/

wow. Fukk that.

It's a cold world out there.

Sometimes I think I'm getting a little frosty myself.

[Wrigley]

French President Promises: 'We Will Be Ruthless'

So there not going to be cowards like they were in WWll

[existential]

what i'd love to see Putin do first is nuke Chechnya and the entire Northern Caucasus region

[Russian Rocket]

Bombing Isis? Assad is no threat to western nations, he's a heartless dictator but just to his own people.

Plaza lives in a LaLa land and thinks that democracy would work everywhere around the globe.
Let's create less aggressive terrorists so they would go after more aggressive terrorists and eventually would kill each other off.
Obama already dipped his balls into Iraq...Libya...Egypt- all 3 are now flourishing as we can clearly see.

now he's about 4-5 years in to Syrian campaign....who's next?

[Plaza23]

French President Promises: 'We Will Be Ruthless'

So there not going to be cowards like they were in WWll

What are they gonna do? Send their entire army to Northern Iraq and Syria and kill every ISIS operative they can find? I'd be interested to see what their response is.

I bet if ISIS coordinated this attack in the US, that the US would put boots on the ground there and absolutely anniliate them. And there wouldnt be any leaving the region when its done. There's be a US STATE in Iraq/Syria FOREVER.

[Kermit]

Just seen this, attack supposedly predicted 8 days ago on one of France's largest gaming sites. #prayforparis

[jjgold]

Bring back Fascism it has worked in the past

[Plaza23]

Bombing Isis? Assad is no threat to western nations, he's a heartless dictator but just to his own people.

He's not bombing ISIS. He's fighting the Free Syrian Army (which is who the US is arming and supporting). You got 3 groups that are fighting for control of that area- Assad (terrorist), ISIS (really bad terrorists), Free Syrian Army (Rebels that want democracy).

The US is supporting freedom. Putin is supporting a terrorist.

[d2bets]

Just seen this, attack supposedly predicted 8 days ago on one of France's largest gaming sites. #prayforparis

Translation?

[Mase of Base]

He's not bombing ISIS. He's fighting the Free Syrian Army (which is who the US is arming and supporting). You got 3 groups that are fighting for control of that area- Assad (terrorist), ISIS (really bad terrorists), Free Syrian Army (Rebels that want democracy).

The US is supporting freedom. Putin is supporting a terrorist.

He's working with the FSA (rebels) Al Nusra Front or whatever they are called (basically Al Queda at the end of the day), he is bombing ISIS though as far as I can see, I really haven't read too much into the Russian involvement yet so you are possibly correct. The US also back Al Nusra don't they? When they finally get power which they will they won't be very friendly to the west they have some nasty radicals amongst them. Isis are going to get hammered now so that'l leave them.

I need to do more research though I haven't read up on the conflict for awhile. Ironically I was watching a doco about Al Nusra grooming kids for jihad only hours before this happened. It's sickening the brainwashing, listening to 6 year kids talking about wanting to be suicide bombers instead of having dreams of being fireman etc.

[Andy117]

French President Promises: 'We Will Be Ruthless'

So there not going to be cowards like they were in WWll

They weren't cowards in WWII, they just got their asses kicked. We didn't do shit for France for the first 2 years of the war.

[Mase of Base]

They weren't cowards in WWII, they just got their asses kicked. We didn't do shit for France for the first 2 years of the war.

Exactly the French resistance after Germany occupied France was heroic. Very proud people the French.

[DrunkHorseplayer]

Another massacre in a gun-free zone.

[EmpireMaker]

What are they gonna do? Send their entire army to Northern Iraq and Syria and kill every ISIS operative they can find? I'd be interested to see what their response is.

I bet if ISIS coordinated this attack in the US, that the US would put boots on the ground there and absolutely anniliate them. And there wouldnt be any leaving the region when its done. There's be a US STATE in Iraq/Syria FOREVER.

this is a good idea

[KingJD31]

Once trump is president we will take care of them

[Russian Rocket]

Please don't tell me that you guys believe in FSA...The so-called Rebels ARE Islamic Extremists, minus ISIS (like there is a real difference). The Free Syrian Army remains a “phantom group" that you, the Americans, support with your money, that you don't have.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has said multiple times that Moscow has called on the US to explain what it is FSA and where it is based. And US cannot give an answer .... because, like Santa Claus, it is just a fantasy; a figment of the imagination.

[Mase of Base]

Please don't tell me that you guys believe in FSA...The so-called Rebels ARE Islamic Extremists, minus ISIS (like there is a real difference). The Free Syrian Army remains a “phantom group" that you, the Americans, support with your money, that you don't have.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has said multiple times that Moscow has called on the US to explain what it is FSA and where it is based. And US cannot give an answer .... because, like Santa Claus, it is just a fantasy; a figment of the imagination.

That's what I thought, I think they were a semi legit force at the start weren't they? But they are basically Al Nusra Front now who are basically Al Queada, well def Al Queada sympathisers anyway.

[Russian Rocket]

That's what I thought, I think they were a semi legit force at the start weren't they? But they are basically Al Nusra Front now who are basically Al Queada, well def Al Queada sympathisers anyway.

Yeah I think they were somewhat of a legit force at first, but like anything else over there it only lasted for a short period of time. All these fighters constantly reshuffle between diff terrorist groups. Some go back to Syrian army...some run and try to escape, but most get killed.
And now when Russia got involved, they're getting killed at an alarming rate (Alarming for Washington).

No one likes to admit that they've wasted years and millions if not billions of taxpayers money on nothing...and also in the process made terrorists stronger....but unfortunately that is exactly what happened here.

[Mase of Base]

Yeah I think they were somewhat of a legit force at first, but like anything else over there it only lasted for a short period of time. All these fighters constantly reshuffle between diff terrorist groups. Some go back to Syrian army...some run and try to escape, but most get killed.
And now when Russia got involved, they're getting killed at an alarming rate (Alarming for Washington).

No one likes to admit that they've wasted years and millions if not billions of taxpayers money on nothing...and also in the process made terrorists stronger....but unfortunately that is exactly what happened here.

I don't see anyway this ends well. Assad looks to be slowly losing to Al Nusra and I'm going to guess ISIS are in for a heavy handed beat down now they've messed with Russia and now France (not the smartest bunch those guys) who are going to be backed by the west. They'll pussy out and go into hiding in behind civilians and live to fight another day (which they will) because they know they won't get bombed there.

Which leaves Al Nusra in charge of Syria, Assad is a POS but his boys were never going to blow up Russian planes or parts of Paris. Al Nusra are a nasty bunch of individuals with a serious amount of hate, scary thought.

[TheMoneyShot]

I like the aggressiveness of the French President.

He's not a pansy like Obama.

Love to see what France does for retaliation.

[frostno98]

They weren't cowards in WWII, they just got their asses kicked. We didn't do shit for France for the first 2 years of the war.

Couldn't agree more. Schools here in the state brainwash us with that narrative. Charles De Gaulle took heavy casualties going against a much superior enemy with air support before they were forced to retreat into the UK or be completely annihilated. The French backed the US in the revolutionary war and the US eventually paid back that debt.

[Axman3000]

Couldn't agree more. Schools here in the state brainwash us with that narrative. Charles De Gaulle took heavy casualties going against a much superior enemy with air support before they were forced to retreat into the UK or be completely annihilated. The French backed the US in the revolutionary war and the US eventually paid back that debt.

The problem I have with the French (and pretty much any Western European country) is the fact that they pour all their money into social programs and maintain a weak military. ISIS is just the beginning of their worries. China and Russia are becoming a larger threat and it's almost like they don't care and refuse to defend themselves at a realistic level.

[floridagolfer]

I don't see anyway this ends well. Assad looks to be slowly losing to Al Nusra and I'm going to guess ISIS are in for a heavy handed beat down now they've messed with Russia and now France (not the smartest bunch those guys) who are going to be backed by the west. They'll pussy out and go into hiding in behind civilians and live to fight another day (which they will) because they know they won't get bombed there.

Which leaves Al Nusra in charge of Syria, Assad is a POS but his boys were never going to blow up Russian planes or parts of Paris. Al Nusra are a nasty bunch of individuals with a serious amount of hate, scary thought.

I guess this is what I don't understand about today's world. If three of the most powerful nations on the planet (France, Russia, U.S.) put their heads together with a singular goal, there's no way ISIS survives.

[shaunovery]

Blow Syria off the map 😆

[paco]

If the current attack taking place in France is coordinated by Muslims, it is truly sad.


These last few months have shown us horrific images of what our Palestinian and Syrian brothers and sisters are suffering from. We have seen first hand the devastation that the American and British invasions of Iraq have led to. It is as if most of the Muslim world is besieged and under attack, primarily from Western lands. As the situation exacerbates, inevitably the rising anger from such attacks will circle back. Violence only begets violence.


Putting aside the very dubious Shar'i justifications proposed by radical groups to justify the retaliatory killings of civilians (again, this is supposing that the current attack has taken place at the hands of religious radicals), the Sharia ALSO takes into account the tangible harms that will come out of an action. Even if these groups believed such random killings to be justified (a belief that I do not share), they would also have to look at the consequences of their actions and THEN judge permissibility. This principle, known as 'weighing the harm', is why our Prophet (salla Allahu alayhi wa sallam) refused to order the execution of the worst hypocrite in Madinah, Abdullah b. Ubay b. Salul. Not that his life was sacred - far from it! - but rather that our Prophet (SAW) fully understood that the negative repercussions and damage that the Muslims would suffer as a result of his execution far outweighed the good that might possibly come out of it.


So what possible good will come of these senseless attacks? Since when have ANY attacks in Western lands helped our Palestinian brothers against Israelis? Or our Afghan and Iraqi brothers and sisters against Western invasions? Or the Muslim refugees anywhere in the world?


Rather than help, such attacks will:
1) Increase the resolve of these powers to send even more military might and aid against innocent Muslims around the world
2) Bring about an increase in hate crimes against Muslims in Western lands
3) Increase the paranoia of Islamphobia around the globe
4) Ease the introduction of more and more draconian legislation that unfairly targets Muslims, under the guise of 'safety from terrorists'
5) Curb more and more speech and dissent that is technically legal
6) Turn the tide against accepting Muslim refugees from Syria and other war-torn zones
...and many, many, many more harms.


The fact of that matter is that I cannot see a single tangible positive that the tactics of such groups bring (again, with the caveat that this attack in France is coming from such groups). Yet, the harms from such attacks only increases as a result, and the consequences are that the 'War Against Terror' is bolstered, leading to a war of terror.


And the saddest fact of all? That neither side seems to understand what they are doing will only increase the desperation and violence of the other side. No one learns from history. We are locked in a vicious cycle, from which unfortunately no easy way out is evident.

-Yasir Quadi

[JoeyBagels]

Blow Syria off the map 

Lebanon and Syria have suffered the joint effects of Saudi/US/Israeli policy in the middle east. Both were stable and advanced countries before imperialist policy disrupted the lives of millions. Go read about Gaddafi and Lebanese civil war. The US funds whatever groups will result in coup d'etat so they can put their own cronies in charge consolidating their power. Why does the US need to be in the middle east and have military bases scattered across the globe? It does not make sense for any peaceful nation to take this stance.

[reigle9]

So fukked up this world today

Been this way since the beginning of time and always will be as long as people are too stupid to think for themselves and need religion...which will be always.

[daneblazer]

And how is any of that screening verified?

Our government. There is a difference between the refugee process that gets refugees let into the US and what you're seeing in Europe. A refugee is also different then an aslyee. All of them are different than someone who hops the border illegally. If the bad guys want in, they'll get in...but it likely won't be as a refugee in the US

[MoneyLineDawg]

Not going to stop until other Muslims fight back against the extremists.....If they don't care about the attacks or even enjoy them, I'm sure they won't care when their homeland gets blown off the map. Russia don't play and they are now involved

[jjgold]

Not going to stop until other Muslims fight back against the extremists.....If they don't care about the attacks or even enjoy them, I'm sure they won't care when their homeland gets blown off the map. Russia don't play and they are now involved

Good point

[itchypickle]

Please don't tell me that you guys believe in FSA...The so-called Rebels ARE Islamic Extremists, minus ISIS (like there is a real difference). The Free Syrian Army remains a “phantom group" that you, the Americans, support with your money, that you don't have.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has said multiple times that Moscow has called on the US to explain what it is FSA and where it is based. And US cannot give an answer .... because, like Santa Claus, it is just a fantasy; a figment of the imagination.

Rocket gets it! Anyone following the good and bad guy narratives from the news pundits are behind the chains on this drive.

[rkelly110]

Not going to stop until other Muslims fight back against the extremists.....If they don't care about the attacks or even enjoy them, I'm sure they won't care when their homeland gets blown off the map. Russia don't play and they are now involved

For thousands of years Muslims have been separate and fought amongst themselves. The old saying of united we stand, divided we fall is why the muslim world can't fight against extremism. They are divided.

ISIS is a middle eastern problem. They need to stomp this cancer not us, the French or any other country.

As far as France and their muslim population, the french keep them segregated. They live in slums and are kept
down. If they have talked to the french for better conditions and nothing has changed, might be why the terrorist
attacks.

[JoeyBagels]

Not going to stop until other Muslims fight back against the extremists.....If they don't care about the attacks or even enjoy them, I'm sure they won't care when their homeland gets blown off the map. Russia don't play and they are now involved

What are you talking about? What is an extremist? The situation is such a mess that joe public cannot wrap his mind around the situation.

Shiite militias who once fought against the US are now fighting ISIS (mainly composed of Sunni's) in Iraq and are now receiving air support from the US. Iraqi army are fighting against ISIS and are going to coordinate intelligence/ground forces with Quds Force out of Iran who are mainly shia (also defacto sharing with russian intelligence). The Kurds are fighting ISIS in Syria and Iraq and the USA arms them first vs Iraqies in the original war and now in Syria as a group of "moderate rebels". The only problem is the Kurds are fighting (also carrying out suicide bombings) against Turkey who is an ally of the USA through Nato.

The USA is also supporting the al-Nusra front in Syria as a group of "moderate" rebels even though they are an offshoot of al-Qaeda who the USA fought in Afghanistan. Not to mention al-Qaeda was formed to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan back in the late 80's out of various tribal groups by the CIA and then supported in congress.

That's without even getting into the very probable conspiracy that ISIS originates as a joint CIA/Mossad and Saudi enterprise to destabilize the region and Russian influence (through Syria) in the middle east.

[Aiko]

Instead of blaming the terrorists we need to conduct an investigation as to why they are so upset and what they want, we need to be sympathetic and understanding to them instead of being islamaphobic!! #feelthebern #wearethe99%

Hey King.........go fukc yourself

[sourtwist]

For thousands of years Muslims have been separate and fought amongst themselves. The old saying of united we stand, divided we fall is why the muslim world can't fight against extremism. They are divided.

ISIS is a middle eastern problem. They need to stomp this cancer not us, the French or any other country.

As far as France and their muslim population, the french keep them segregated. They live in slums and are kept
down. If they have talked to the french for better conditions and nothing has changed, might be why the terrorist
attacks.

In your last paragraph I noticed something troubling.

Did you justify the terrorist attacks by blaming the French people for not giving illegal migrants better conditions? I think you did.

I like you rkelly, not a bad dude, but your liberal mentality is a diseased way of thinking. These migrants are not women and children, they are men of fighting age being planted in areas of future conflict.