Take Pippen and Rodman off Jordan's teams, Like LBJ is without Love and Kyrie and he doesn't do what he did. His 2nd and 3rd best players are out and he just won a finals game. His 2nd best offensive weapon is penetrating JR Smith. If you don't think you're watching something amazing you are insane.
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goofyreSBR MVP
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jtolerBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#37Take Pippen and Rodman off Jordan's teams, Like LBJ is without Love and Kyrie and he doesn't do what he did. His 2nd and 3rd best players are out and he just won a finals game. His 2nd best offensive weapon is penetrating JR Smith. If you don't think you're watching something amazing you are insane.Comment -
jizaySBR Wise Guy
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First incarnation, he had Pippen and an all-star PF in Ho Grant. Kukoc came along as a 6-10 guy with PG handle who won a sixth man of the year award. Add one of the all time greatest rebounders in Rodman for the second incarnation. They also stumbled into guys like Brian Williams for a playoff run, a 16/9 guy who fell into their lap. Jordan's championship teams had tons and tons of talent.
Not saying Lebron (or anyone) is better than Jordan, but drunkhorse is exactly right. That's a far sub-.500 team on the floor tonight without Lebron. Put Kyrie out there and take away Lebron and it's not a playoff team (just like the Heat). At least appreciate that the guy carries teams deeper into the playoffs than they have any business being.Comment -
jimmy007ocSBR MVP
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#40Hey when Lebron was out, this Cleveland team was shit, not even average.Comment -
The GiantSBR Posting Legend
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The regular season is important if you can't even get to the playoffs.
Lebron left two different teams and they got catastrophically worse.
When Jordan left his team, they dropped off by two games. And won a round in the playoffs without him.Comment -
DrunkHorseplayerSBR Hall of Famer
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#42I remember the mid-80's before Pippen and Grant showed up. All the numbskull "experts" said MJ couldn't touch Bird and Magic because he had no ring even though he was clearly the better player.Comment -
jtolerBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#43You mean without Bron and half the Miami team he took with him to Cleveland? The Miami team with a host of new rookies and a half dead Bosh? That team didnt do so well this year.Comment -
The GiantSBR Posting Legend
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#44
Your argument is Mike Miller and James Jones were important pieces from Miami going down, and Cleveland going up?
I can't argue with that logic. You win.Comment -
raiders72001Senior Member
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#45Tough to compare different years. The last year Jordan played baseball they were 34-31 until Jordan joined them for the last 17 and they went 13-4.Comment -
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raiders72001Senior Member
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#47Take Pippen and Rodman off Jordan's teams, Like LBJ is without Love and Kyrie and he doesn't do what he did. His 2nd and 3rd best players are out and he just won a finals game. His 2nd best offensive weapon is penetrating JR Smith. If you don't think you're watching something amazing you are insane.Comment -
Ra77erSBR Posting Legend
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#48I think the way the game has evolved makes it difficult to make this debate work. Lebron's squad certainly awful without him, same in Miami. Jordan played in a different era and the respect he got as a player in arena's across the country was a different type of respect than the respect Lebron gets. Jordan didn't play in a flop first, lean into the defender to get a call type of league like it is today. Not saying they didn't have guys flopping back then or if that timeframe was better or worse than what it is today, just that you cannot really ever change someones opinion on this debate if you ACTUALLY watched/went to see Jordan play.Comment -
BigDofBASBR Posting Legend
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#49Jordan was 6-0 in the Finals.
Kobe has five rings.
LBJ is 2-4 and lucky he isn't 1-5 after an epic Spurs collapse.
LBJ is an all-time great but he isn't Jordan.
Kobe and MJ were closers.Comment -
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The GiantSBR Posting Legend
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#51Robert Horry has seven rings.
Greatest player ever.Comment -
jizaySBR Wise Guy
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jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#55Of course Michael Jordans the best player ever the king in the discussion and top five right nowComment -
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jtolerBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#57Lol kids these days.Comment -
raiders72001Senior Member
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Jordan 34, played all 82 games
Rodman 36, played 66 games
Pippen 32, played 44 games
Harper 34
Longley 29
Kukoc 29Comment -
jizaySBR Wise Guy
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The absolute deranged Lebron hate is crazy. BTW, he isn't 2-4 yet, though nobody could sensibly blame him if the Cavs don't win with this squad.Comment -
The KrakenBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#61Bottom line is MJ is 1a and LBJ 1b
Only reason MJ got 1a is due to chronologyComment -
MoMoneyMoVaughnSBR Posting Legend
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#62Laundry is done.Comment -
nyplayer33Restricted User
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#63If they had love and irving they would be up 2-0 n on there way to a sweep. He does get the most out of his team then anybody else.Comment -
nyplayer33Restricted User
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#64Jordan is a better clutch scorer..but lebron is a better all around player and much better defender.Comment -
blankoblancoSBR MVP
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#65Lebron is amazing, but it's also amazing how much shit he'd be getting if you change 1 or 2 plays and the Cavs lose that game. He shot terribly in the 2nd half of the game, and it would have been considered a choke of huge proportions. LBJ is that type of guy who is special even beyond his stats though. Makes guys around him better.Comment -
MoMoneyMoVaughnSBR Posting Legend
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#66SBR servers overloading with Jordan/Lebron Comparisons.Comment -
jtolerBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#67MJ was a killer, assassin, the tenacity you see from Westbrook, MJ was the blueprint. Bron is just built differently which is why I don't compare them and also because they play different positions, different styles, body types. But I can't sit back either and let someone say Bron is better, its asinine.Comment -
Ra77erSBR Posting Legend
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#68Optimus Prime or Voltron?Comment -
nyplayer33Restricted User
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#69BTW, curry stop twirlng your mouth guard like a kid..annotyingComment -
goofyreSBR MVP
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Cavs are a quarter inch of going back to Cleveland up 2-0 with Lebron and guys who wouldn't start on GSW.Comment
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