sweat logde and peyote cerimonies and then to the fun powwow myself{teepee creeping LOL)
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my friend is a peyote man and I have a few friends that are medicine menComment -
Originally posted by betplomThank you sir.
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Betplom if I didn't like you I would stop praying for your lost soul
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Very comforting Mike, I know you mean well and I don't dislike you at all, but all the religious references and God talk here on the forum puts the plommer in a foul mood.Originally posted by pimikeBetplom if I didn't like you I would stop praying for your lost soul
Pray if you wish, but my beliefs are what they are.
I think I'll end the debate as it only causes more conflict than I intended.
The plommer likes to stir the pot, and some guys here take the bait a little too easily.
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Originally posted by betplomVery comforting Mike, I know you mean well and I don't dislike you at all, but all the religious references and God talk here on the forum puts the plommer in a foul mood.
Pray if you wish, but my beliefs are what they are.
I think I'll end the debate as it only causes more conflict than I intended.
The plommer likes to stir the pot, and some guys here take the bait a little too easily.
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men infinitely smarter than you were men of faith, dont flatter yourselfComment -
Originally posted by betplomVery comforting Mike, I know you mean well and I don't dislike you at all, but all the religious references and God talk here on the forum puts the plommer in a foul mood.
Pray if you wish, but my beliefs are what they are.
I think I'll end the debate as it only causes more conflict than I intended.
The plommer likes to stir the pot, and some guys here take the bait a little too easily.
Yep, they take the bait, even though you look nothing like this baitor.
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No one has a comment on NDN church???Comment -
Free will is a wonderful thing, but with actions/choices come consequences ... choosing to ignore or, worse yet, disparage the Creator of the universe isn't so smart. But it seems like some of the "smartest" people think it's really great to do just that.
Oh, well. Just because somebody is lost does not necessarily mean they will be found ... but it's amazing when they have a map for the asking, but instead decide to continue to walk in circles.
Free will. What a concept.Comment -
No matter what you need to have some sort of spiritual concept in lifeComment -
having no fear of god is just stupid.. i pity youComment -
Who do you pitty???Originally posted by danrmanComment -
IBH FOREVER
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Any bible that doesn't explain why dinosaurs roamed the earth for 160 million years isn't even worth the paper its written on.Comment -
Is it any wonder that those who struggle the most with basic logic on here are also the "believers"?Comment -
Any thing that doesnt teach you how to live and only teaches just existing is BS.There is more to life then just existing periodComment -
Common sense is not so common, but, ain't it logic enough for you that there is something superior than us and created everything the way it is smart enough to let it change and evolve along its predestined path? Do you like thinking of yourself as a mere coincidence of matter itself or would you rather consider yourself as a being that was predestined to be the way you currently are? I like being important to someone, at least to my creator. That's why I believe. I then insist, common sense is not so common.Originally posted by donjuanComment -
There is no predestiny period.Comment -
Let me recall donjuan's last phrase to answer you:Originally posted by bbyhill
"Is it any wonder that those who struggle the most with basic logic on here are also the "believers"?"Comment -
Originally posted by CS-Cedrick
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Buddy, do you consider yourself a coincidence? Don't you think that even big bang or whatever started the universe was even planned? How did everything started, and what created what started it? there's a destiny to everything, we don't know because we're not meant to, I will know it when I go wherever I have to go and ask about it one day, that's for sure.Originally posted by bbyhillComment -
If there is a distiny then anyone I KILL would be destine to die correct?Comment -
That's sadly correct.Originally posted by bbyhillComment -
In my belief it is not correct.Nobody is predestined period. How did I not die when I was stabbed in the chest and shot???Comment -
Stabbed several times however I am talking about being stabbed in the chestOriginally posted by bbyhillComment -
Originally posted by CS-Cedrick
You saying my BRO'S that were beat to death on the REZ it was meant to beComment -
Yes as well as you were not to die at the moment you were stabbed.Originally posted by bbyhillComment -
man, all the fruits and nuts come out for this one.
good job betplom.
I especially like it when Zbois and pimike second each other. That's some serious philosophybird bird da bird's da wordComment -
I have been stabbed several times however that time was in the chest I have marks on my face,hands,arms,legs where I have been stabbed it is not predestined if so that means my revenge on my bro's death is predestinedComment -
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If that's what Him planned for you for whatever the purpose may be, then, my answer is yes. Don't get me wrong bro but I do not intend to impose my belief, I'm just giving my point of view and nothing else, sorry If I sound rude to you.Comment -
Every body knows I will get even a matter of time got everyone on the REZ scared it is going to be them except???Makes for a lot of good women wanting to be with me to however I will make it home some day with mk women(wife)but I am on NDN timeComment -
My Bro's Grandmother the one that raised me and is real christian came and seen me the other day and tried to talk to me and she (full blood NDN) said I havent changed and never will god bless me she said and I said God doesnt have anlything to do with what I am going to doComment
