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  • picantel
    SBR MVP
    • 09-17-05
    • 4338

    #1
    AIG does it again



    I find this company fascinating. It is so criminal in its behavior because it knows the government is too busy kissing ass and trying to save jobs that they can do pretty much as they please.

    The story comes with a video also. Basically they threw a $343k convention but did not want anyone to know so the hotel was not allowed to put any signs up announcing it or even talk about it. The execs were driven around in limos, had an open bar, and then went out to eat at a swanky restaurant- all on your dime. This is after they blew the billions taxpayers gave them and then asked and received 150 billion more. Unreal.
  • picantel
    SBR MVP
    • 09-17-05
    • 4338

    #2
    The Federal Reserve Bank is drawing jeers for hiring a former top executive from the now-defunct investment bank Bear Stearns to help it gauge the health of other banks.


    Want another ridiculous fed move. They just hired the head of risk management at Bear Sterns(yah the one that went under from risky plays) to look at the health of other banks. Why not hire a murderer to become a police officer because he knows how to fire a gun.
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    • Tchocky
      SBR MVP
      • 02-14-06
      • 2371

      #3
      I saw their new CEO on Larry King last night. He did a good job of explaining these "retreats". The real evil genius is Hank Paulson. Paulson is a 1st class enabler for Wall Street and their lobby groups. It is unlikely the taxpayers will ever get any of this $700 billion back.
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      • picantel
        SBR MVP
        • 09-17-05
        • 4338

        #4
        Of course the taxpayer will never see a dime. The whole thing is a joke and is just the rich getting rich off the backs of everyone else.

        Here is another funny story. The UIGEA makes offshore gambling illegal(at least for the books). The debts have no legal status and are criminal to even collect on. The collection agency for the books threatens and harasses people illegally and gets caught by the federal government. Does anything happen to them? Well no as the government is incompetent. They decide to turn the collection agency on the big bad sportsbook to track the money(secretly of course) before they pull the rug out from under the sportsbook. As the book crumbles the people who were abused and others lose their shirts. Unreal.
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        • wtf
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 08-22-08
          • 12983

          #5
          picantel, thank you for posting this, i would have missed it.

          their arrogance is beyond words. LIMOS, FIRST CLASS! let them fail, they are losers anyway.
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          • gm2022
            SBR MVP
            • 02-28-08
            • 4128

            #6
            Originally posted by picantel
            Of course the taxpayer will never see a dime. The whole thing is a joke and is just the rich getting rich off the backs of everyone else.

            Here is another funny story. The UIGEA makes offshore gambling illegal(at least for the books). The debts have no legal status and are criminal to even collect on. The collection agency for the books threatens and harasses people illegally and gets caught by the federal government. Does anything happen to them? Well no as the government is incompetent. They decide to turn the collection agency on the big bad sportsbook to track the money(secretly of course) before they pull the rug out from under the sportsbook. As the book crumbles the people who were abused and others lose their shirts. Unreal.
            UIGEA BILL is a killer to online poker big time. Why doesnt the gov. just legalize it and tax it so much money they are missing out on not doing this for poker! I dont see what congress man the votes for this gain persoanlly on this either!
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            • EBSB52
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 10-30-08
              • 606

              #7
              Originally posted by picantel
              http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallSt...6223972&page=1


              I find this company fascinating. It is so criminal in its behavior because it knows the government is too busy kissing ass and trying to save jobs that they can do pretty much as they please.

              The story comes with a video also. Basically they threw a $343k convention but did not want anyone to know so the hotel was not allowed to put any signs up announcing it or even talk about it. The execs were driven around in limos, had an open bar, and then went out to eat at a swanky restaurant- all on your dime. This is after they blew the billions taxpayers gave them and then asked and received 150 billion more. Unreal.


              No shit, unfvcking real
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              • PittsburghPlayer
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-11-10
                • 6760

                #8
                Bump...

                New information has surfaced...

                seems this conflict between SteveK and AIG (in saloon)
                started EIGHT years ago.

                W O W
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                • IAG
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 12-05-12
                  • 410

                  #9
                  Originally posted by PittsburghPlayer
                  Bump...

                  New information has surfaced...

                  seems this conflict between SteveK and AIG (in saloon)
                  started EIGHT years ago.

                  W O W
                  LOL...Steak used to call me AIG. Miss that guy.
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                  • unde0087
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                    • 03-27-08
                    • 28959

                    #10
                    Don't blame them, Obama is the dipshit who gives handouts left and right to these clowns. Maybe hate the enabler of the situation. Same thing with Wells Fargo, Obama hands them a bag of cash without demanding the company to change leadership and acts like the company is just going to change their ways.

                    It's like handing a degenerate gambler a million dollars downtown Vegas and expecting them not to gamble.
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                    • chico2663
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                      • 09-02-10
                      • 36915

                      #11
                      Look it is a convention for people that have made certain levels. As someone that went to 17 straight conventions for production levels from a rival company. It isn't right that the agents are made to suffer for the incompetence of the company. One thing that people don't realize is that A.I.G. and Lloyds(sp) of London write all the insurance for casualty insurance for sea bearing companies. As far as the previous loan; everything that W gave out was a gift. If Obama gave it out then it has been paid back with a 12% interest.
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                      • vividjohn45
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 11-21-10
                        • 6331

                        #12
                        Originally posted by unde0087
                        Don't blame them, Obama is the dipshit who gives handouts left and right to these clowns. Maybe hate the enabler of the situation. Same thing with Wells Fargo, Obama hands them a bag of cash without demanding the company to change leadership and acts like the company is just going to change their ways.

                        It's like handing a degenerate gambler a million dollars downtown Vegas and expecting them not to gamble.
                        Jj would not lose it all in downtown vegas. He prefers the strip.
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                        • brooks85
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-05-09
                          • 44709

                          #13
                          Originally posted by chico2663
                          Look it is a convention for people that have made certain levels. As someone that went to 17 straight conventions for production levels from a rival company. It isn't right that the agents are made to suffer for the incompetence of the company. One thing that people don't realize is that A.I.G. and Lloyds(sp) of London write all the insurance for casualty insurance for sea bearing companies. As far as the previous loan; everything that W gave out was a gift. If Obama gave it out then it has been paid back with a 12% interest.

                          chico showing how clueless he is as to what those "agents" were doing.


                          lol clueless but that is what makes you a liberal
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                          • khicks26
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 09-16-06
                            • 45704

                            #14
                            blah blah blah.
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                            • grease lightnin
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 10-01-12
                              • 16015

                              #15
                              Originally posted by brooks85

                              chico showing how clueless he is as to what those "agents" were doing.


                              lol clueless but that is what makes you a liberal

                              What at were they doing, brooks?
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                              • Snowball
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                                • 11-15-09
                                • 30062

                                #16
                                Thou dost not lend in usury to thy brother; usury of money, usury of food, usury of anything which is lent on usury.
                                To a stranger thou mayest lend in usury, and to thy brother thou dost not lend in usury, so that Jehovah thy God doth bless thee in every putting forth of thy hand on the land whither thou goest in to possess it.



                                Deuteronomy 23:19-20
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                                • brooks85
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-05-09
                                  • 44709

                                  #17
                                  ^that's my kind of answer


                                  yes sir, those agents knew exactly what they were doing
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                                  • grease lightnin
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 10-01-12
                                    • 16015

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by brooks85
                                    ^that's my kind of answer


                                    yes sir, those agents knew exactly what they were doing
                                    Well, the agents in the article, the ones Chico was referring to, they are independent financial advisors. Lending typically is not a part of their business. They were being wined and dined by AIG to sell AIG annuities.

                                    These "agents" aren't employees of AIG. You treated Chico as though he didn't know what he was talking about, but you are the one who doesn't know what they're talking about.

                                    Chico was exactly right, and you were wrong.
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                                    • grease lightnin
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 10-01-12
                                      • 16015

                                      #19
                                      And just so you guys know. Lending is not what brought AIG down. They underwrote more credit default swaps than any other firm leading up to the financial crisis. In other words they insured a bunch of bonds that went bad and they had to pay big. Had nothing to do with lending.
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                                      • brooks85
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                                        • 01-05-09
                                        • 44709

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                        Well, the agents in the article, the ones Chico was referring to, they are independent financial advisors. Lending typically is not a part of their business. They were being wined and dined by AIG to sell AIG annuities.

                                        These "agents" aren't employees of AIG. You treated Chico as though he didn't know what he was talking about, but you are the one who doesn't know what they're talking about.

                                        Chico was exactly right, and you were wrong.
                                        lol do you love coming up against me and failing every time? and I do mean every so far.



                                        like I said, those agents knew exactly what they were doing. Maybe you don't know what an annuity is? Go brush up because you're the kind of sucker who would buy into one.
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                                        • Snowball
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                                          • 11-15-09
                                          • 30062

                                          #21
                                          The government got it back but the government is NOT the taxpayers.
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                                          • brooks85
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                                            • 01-05-09
                                            • 44709

                                            #22
                                            ...
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                                            • grease lightnin
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                                              • 10-01-12
                                              • 16015

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by brooks85
                                              lol do you love coming up against me and failing every time? and I do mean every so far.



                                              like I said, those agents knew exactly what they were doing. Maybe you don't know what an annuity is? Go brush up because you're the kind of sucker who would buy into one.

                                              What i said is 100% correct. 100%.

                                              Either tell me me HOW I am wrong or STFU loser
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                                              • brooks85
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                                                • 01-05-09
                                                • 44709

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                                What i said is 100% correct. 100%.

                                                Either tell me me HOW I am wrong or STFU loser
                                                no, it is not. I just proved you wrong. Work on your reading. As I said, those agents knew exactly what they were doing.

                                                Only a moron would buy into an annuity and only a POS would sell one. You lose, again. Good thing we didn't make another bet lol
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                                                • grease lightnin
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 10-01-12
                                                  • 16015

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Snowball
                                                  The government got it back but the government is NOT the taxpayers.
                                                  So you wrote a check to AIG, then?
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                                                  • grease lightnin
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 10-01-12
                                                    • 16015

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by brooks85
                                                    no, it is not. I just proved you wrong.
                                                    How Brooks? You said nothing
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                                                    • brooks85
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 01-05-09
                                                      • 44709

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                                      How Brooks? You said nothing
                                                      yeah except for the part about only a pos would sell annuities and only suckers buy them.
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                                                      • brooks85
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 01-05-09
                                                        • 44709

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                                        So you wrote a check to AIG, then?
                                                        do you know how taxes work?
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                                                        • grease lightnin
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 10-01-12
                                                          • 16015

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by brooks85
                                                          yeah except for the part about only a pos would sell annuities and only suckers buy them.

                                                          Almost all insurance companies sell annuities you nitwit.

                                                          And AIG's annuity business has absolutely nothing to do with why they failed.

                                                          And you had no idea that this conference had anything to do with annuities until I told you.

                                                          So transparent! Lmao

                                                          So, tell me why annuities are for suckers.
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                                                          • brooks85
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 01-05-09
                                                            • 44709

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                                            Almost all insurance companies sell annuities you nitwit.

                                                            And AIG's annuity business has absolutely nothing to do with why they failed.

                                                            And you had no idea that this conference had anything to do with annuities until I told you.

                                                            So transparent! Lmao

                                                            So, tell me why annuities are for suckers.

                                                            do you think this somehow saves you?

                                                            no, it doesn't. It actually proves my point lol

                                                            only pos sell annuities and only suckers buy them, and there are a lot of suckers out there. Hey, grease.


                                                            lol like I said

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                                                            • chico2663
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                                                              • 09-02-10
                                                              • 36915

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by brooks85
                                                              ^that's my kind of answer

                                                              Dipshityes sir, those agents knew exactly what they were doing
                                                              God you are so clueless. If your an agent or a sale person you are so far from what the top does. You being a janitor has no clue what the principal is doing
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                                                              • grease lightnin
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 10-01-12
                                                                • 16015

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by brooks85

                                                                do you think this somehow saves you?

                                                                no, it doesn't. It actually proves my point lol

                                                                only pos sell annuities and only suckers buy them, and there are a lot of suckers out there. Hey, grease.


                                                                lol like I said



                                                                I have no idea why I am attempting to converse with you.

                                                                Tell me this:

                                                                Why are annuities bad?

                                                                What did annuities have to do with AIG's failure?
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                                                                • Snowball
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                                                                  • 11-15-09
                                                                  • 30062

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                                                  So you wrote a check to AIG, then?
                                                                  So you tap the government anytime you need a loan to bet ?
                                                                  and without interest ? must be nice...
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                                                                  • grease lightnin
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 10-01-12
                                                                    • 16015

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by chico2663
                                                                    God you are so clueless. If your an agent or a sale person you are so far from what the top does. You being a janitor has no clue what the principal is doing
                                                                    He is literally the most assured idiot in the entire world
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                                                                    • chico2663
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                                                                      • 09-02-10
                                                                      • 36915

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by brooks85

                                                                      do you think this somehow saves you?

                                                                      no, it doesn't. It actually proves my point lol

                                                                      only pos sell annuities and only suckers buy them, and there are a lot of suckers out there. Hey, grease.


                                                                      lol like I said

                                                                      Hey dumb ass . Do you have an ira? Individual retirement annuity?
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