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2011 NFL Pro Picks with John Ryan
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John RyanSBR MVP- 11-20-10
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#771The Jets are hard to figure out period this year. I will see what my database and sim come up with. Every year there is a team or a few teams that can make you look like a genius or a complete fool on any given week. The Jets seem to fit that mold this year.Comment -
John RyanSBR MVP- 11-20-10
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#772That is a good resource certainly, but be careful because those percentages are there, but we do not know how many bets to how much dollar volume is on those bets. You need to know those two extra factors to have a more meaningful consensus data. Hope that helps Perhaps I can provide my overall Consensus data later in the week say Saturday afternoon and we will see how it compares.Originally posted by suitorcheck VegasInsider! They have public betting trends on Hilton in Vegas and on sportsbook.com for the ML, O/U, and ATSComment -
John RyanSBR MVP- 11-20-10
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#773Buffalo defeated New England, one of the best teams in the NFL and Buffalo gets no respect from the public. They have been the doormats of the AFC East for years and it takes a while for the public to adjust their interests and sentiment in a losing team like Buffalo. Philly, however, is even more loved by the public because they are 1-3 and just HAVE to win. Well, no team HAS to win or is DUE to win. It may pear to be the case in hindsight, but the Eagles are in deep trouble right now. They are capable of turning it around, but there are so many problems to resolve.Originally posted by K2daLWhich team are on your radar & will shit the bed this week? Also, Can you elaborate further reasoning why you think Buffalo has more value vs. the Eagles?Comment -
PickMeAwinnerSBR High Roller
- 09-21-11
- 120
#774I would love to look at it John. I was just speaking my mind to see if I can make some sense out of it. You on the other hand have a more in depth look at the situation and I am one to try and learn. I am a student of the game trying to master the art!
Thanx John you really made me look at things in a different way, positively of course!Comment -
PickMeAwinnerSBR High Roller
- 09-21-11
- 120
#775Kc 38
@ Indy -2.5
Man I dont even know where to start with these two. KC 1-3 vs Indy 0-4. The only impressive thing about these guys are that they are both tied with 2-2 ATS 50% winners. First of all where is the offense at? Currently KC in 30th in total pts average per game, 30th in total passing and they are about average with rushing yard at 14th place. I didn't want to be specific about the #'s cause it not worth it for me to post. Indy is pretty much on the same level, 28th in pts per game, 26th in passing, and 28th in rushing. These two are tied at 30th place averaging 270 total yards per game LOL. Get where Im going with this? Defensively they about even as far as total yards go, giving up about 380 yrds average per game. The thing that scares me most is they gave up pts to their opponents. Kc allowed 31.5 pts and Indy 27 pts average per game. With no offense and a very shaky defense I dont know whether this game is going to be OVER or UNDER. What do I do in these type of situations?
John please give me your thoughts, ThanxComment -
nmodiSBR Sharp
- 03-28-11
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#776John,
Out of Footbal topic...
Ur thought for Yankees game today????
Thanks in advanceComment -
JR007SBR Hall of Famer
- 02-21-10
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#777[quote=John Ryan;11693697]This reinforces the fundamental theme that a lines maker job is to set a number where he knows he will get nearly equal action on each side. They could care less, who wins the game. There are of course times where they do get over loaded on my side, but will keep the line static as to not get 'middled'.
SOMEWHAT DEBATABLE, THERE ARE TIMES WHERE A MANAGER WILL TAKE A RISK ON ONE SIDE, WHEN KEY NUMBERS ARE NOT INVOLVED.....LINE MIGHT OPEN AT 7.5..(FAV)....THEY MIGHT DRIVE IT UP TO 8, 8.5, 9.,9.5, JUST BELOW THE KEY NUMBER OF 10 , AS THEY KNOW SHARPS WILL COME IN THEN, ......IF THEY THINK THAT SIDE WILL WIN, REFERENCE (WONGS bOOK ) SHARP BETTINGComment -
1gamerSBR Wise Guy
- 02-09-11
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#778How does teasing Cal up to +31 and und 72.5 sound?
Keeping with the JR picks.
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Jay2k1civicSBR High Roller
- 11-07-10
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#7792h play oregon?....Comment -
jjaycunySBR MVP
- 07-01-11
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#780took Cal +13.5 -105Originally posted by Jay2k1civic2h play oregon?....Comment -
John RyanSBR MVP- 11-20-10
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#781Thanks, but keep in ind this thread is based on a 2-way street of communication. That is why I believe we are all becoming better handicappers and game analyzers.Originally posted by PickMeAwinnerI would love to look at it John. I was just speaking my mind to see if I can make some sense out of it. You on the other hand have a more in depth look at the situation and I am one to try and learn. I am a student of the game trying to master the art!
Thanx John you really made me look at things in a different way, positively of course!Comment -
John RyanSBR MVP- 11-20-10
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#782I missed this last night as i was 'hangin' out in the CFB thread focused on that game. Each week I have one single game that we completely tear apart over the course of the week. i will post the link to the new thread once the new game is identified for next week.Originally posted by Jay2k1civic2h play oregon?....
In hindsight, I was thinking of second half play on Oregon figuring the coaches would rip into them, but having Cal +24, UNDER Cal, and a teaser Cal and Under i felt that by adding second half Oregon was just adding too many plays and too much risk.Comment -
John RyanSBR MVP- 11-20-10
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#783Just as a note and a reminder to everyone. I have a CFB thread started so that we can keep the CFB and NFL discussions and analysis separate. Also, I will be releasing the NFL 5* Plays this afternoon.Comment -
John RyanSBR MVP- 11-20-10
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#784Ok. Friday afternoon. I will be Game 5 tonight in Philadelphia. Will send Game updates and hopefully a little video of the stadium, the fans, the atmosphere, the food, the whole thing will be incredible. I do have a 5* play on Arizona today Just FYI.
I am 13-6 ATS for 68.4% ATS winners. Here are this weeks 5* plays so far.
5* Kansas City (yes again) +2 over the Colts
5* Houston -5 1/2 over Oakland
5* New England -8 1/2 over the Jets
There may be more as I move through Sunday night and the totals data and simulations.Comment -
DrStaleSBR Hall of Famer
- 12-07-08
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#786Like 'em. Chiefs is my strongest play of the weekend. BOL.Originally posted by John RyanOk. Friday afternoon. I will be Game 5 tonight in Philadelphia. Will send Game updates and hopefully a little video of the stadium, the fans, the atmosphere, the food, the whole thing will be incredible. I do have a 5* play on Arizona today Just FYI.
I am 13-6 ATS for 68.4% ATS winners. Here are this weeks 5* plays so far.
5* Kansas City (yes again) +2 over the Colts
5* Houston -5 1/2 over Oakland
5* New England -8 1/2 over the Jets
There may be more as I move through Sunday night and the totals data and simulations.Originally posted by Dark HorseIf with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?Comment -
PickMeAwinnerSBR High Roller
- 09-21-11
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#787John,
Any input on the put about KC at Indy about the over/under situation?Comment -
GreyraptorSBR Wise Guy
- 09-02-11
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#788Good picks John! Have fun at the game and I hope it is a good one!Originally posted by John RyanOk. Friday afternoon. I will be Game 5 tonight in Philadelphia. Will send Game updates and hopefully a little video of the stadium, the fans, the atmosphere, the food, the whole thing will be incredible. I do have a 5* play on Arizona today Just FYI.
I am 13-6 ATS for 68.4% ATS winners. Here are this weeks 5* plays so far.
5* Kansas City (yes again) +2 over the Colts
5* Houston -5 1/2 over Oakland
5* New England -8 1/2 over the Jets
There may be more as I move through Sunday night and the totals data and simulations.Comment -
Jay2k1civicSBR High Roller
- 11-07-10
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#789Anybody making a play on boise state game tonight?... anyone like the favored team?Comment -
brulocSBR Wise Guy
- 08-04-11
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#790Iam thinking about do a teaser boise + over.Comment -
jjaycunySBR MVP
- 07-01-11
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#791I have Fresno State covering +21 -110Comment -
Jay2k1civicSBR High Roller
- 11-07-10
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#792jjay.....what do u think they will cover?.... WR comes back for Boise....i just dont see how they dont cover.....Comment -
Jay2k1civicSBR High Roller
- 11-07-10
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#7939-1 since 1992 4-1 at fresno since 92 ats!!!!!!!!!!! over the last 3 seasons 2-0 ats .....Comment -
Jay2k1civicSBR High Roller
- 11-07-10
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#794uhm....if the yankees wernt going anywhere...PHILLIES werent going anywhere! back to back seasons!Comment -
fecgp40SBR Hall of Famer
- 02-01-11
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#795Better luck next time JJ. Never bet against Boise in a prime time nationally televised game.Originally posted by jjaycunyI have Fresno State covering +21 -110Comment -
fecgp40SBR Hall of Famer
- 02-01-11
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#796Yankees and Phillies =Originally posted by Jay2k1civicuhm....if the yankees wernt going anywhere...PHILLIES werent going anywhere! back to back seasons!

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jjaycunySBR MVP
- 07-01-11
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#797Originally posted by fecgp40Better luck next time JJ. Never bet against Boise in a prime time nationally televised game.
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Jay2k1civicSBR High Roller
- 11-07-10
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#798hate to say "i told ya so"Originally posted by jjaycuny
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PickMeAwinnerSBR High Roller
- 09-21-11
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#799
Picked Boise St + OVER 58. Got me shaking cause is was gonna be UNDER and a Pick by Boise St gave me a chance and I was like, damn there is no more time. Wow nice easy run for a Td to make my day as time ran out!
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PickMeAwinnerSBR High Roller
- 09-21-11
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#800Originally posted by John RyanOk. Friday afternoon. I will be Game 5 tonight in Philadelphia. Will send Game updates and hopefully a little video of the stadium, the fans, the atmosphere, the food, the whole thing will be incredible. I do have a 5* play on Arizona today Just FYI.
I am 13-6 ATS for 68.4% ATS winners. Here are this weeks 5* plays so far.
5* Kansas City (yes again) +2 over the Colts
5* Houston -5 1/2 over Oakland
5* New England -8 1/2 over the Jets
There may be more as I move through Sunday night and the totals data and simulations.
I like KC and New England Im still not sure about Houston. Yes I am a fan of the Raiders but I more a fan of beating the spread. I bet against them all the time when I feel its the right play. Still waiting to look at those number when you get a chance.
GL ya'llComment -
PickMeAwinnerSBR High Roller
- 09-21-11
- 120
#801Last year Boise State beat Fresno State 52 - 0 or something like that and back then Boise state was ranked #10. Now Boise State is #5 and I can see the big improvements or maybe its just because Fresno State got worst.....doubt it though.Comment -
fsulover100SBR Sharp
- 08-18-11
- 335
#802Originally posted by PickMeAwinnerLast year Boise State beat Fresno State 52 - 0 or something like that and back then Boise state was ranked #10. Now Boise State is #5 and I can see the big improvements or maybe its just because Fresno State got worst.....doubt it though.
No offense but is this a joke? They lost 2 top 20 receivers in Titus Young and Austin Pettis. Fresno State has gotten worse.Comment -
PickMeAwinnerSBR High Roller
- 09-21-11
- 120
#803I got a 5 teamer on College tomorrow
Utah + 3
Miami FL +8.5
Baylor -16
LSU -12
Michigan -10
Im feeling lucky about this one, this is a fun pick thanks to Boise St.Comment -
Reno GamblerSBR High Roller
- 03-24-09
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#804John,
How much of a diffrence up or down on the line where it's not considered a play on the plays you put out??
Thanks and keep up the great work!!
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Mully85SBR Hustler
- 08-23-10
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#805Why so lucky on this one PickMeAwinner? Looks enticing!Originally posted by PickMeAwinnerI got a 5 teamer on College tomorrow Utah + 3 Miami FL +8.5 Baylor -16 LSU -12 Michigan -10 Im feeling lucky about this one, this is a fun pick thanks to Boise St.Comment
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