The "R.R.L.M." thread

[patsfan2727]

The Reverse - Reverse - Line - Movement Thread has begun!

I will be fading any "RLM Picks" made by the sharps on this site, because I truly believe RLM is retarded and serves no purpose as to helping anybody handicap any sport. This thread will either prove RLM to be a losing proposition, or have no useful edge whatsoever, but don't take my word for it...let's see how it plays out. we will see if RLM stands for

"Raking Lots of Money" or
"Retards Losing Money"

[madworld]

I agree! For a couple weeks RLM were hitting consistently and I started following them, about that time I started getting killed. So the last couple weeks, I went with my skills and haven't even looked at whose betting on who and RLM. Needless to say I have made my money back plus. So I too am fadind RLM!~

[patsfan2727]

doesn't matter, even if the RRLM plays work the nazis on this site will just block me anyway. PICK YOUR OWN GAMES, be a man, don't trail, don't come up with gimmicks, don't fade the public. If you really want to fade the public, grow a sack and become a bookie.

[Robust]

i will chime in on RLM plays for ya to fade..

good luck!

hehe

Robust

[Robust]

Bengals +13.5 is RLM at 79% for Ind (1/2 point drop).. so Take Indy..

Hou is +5.5 RLM with 84% for GB (1 point drop).. so Take GB..

not sure if you consider RLM 1/2 or a full point, but there are two to fade..

will post more later..

Robust

[patsfan2727]

please do so. I won't be actually wagering real $ for or against RLM, for the record. just keeping a record of it, as you are. you can bust on me for not truly making these plays, but since I think the whole "system" is a contrived joke, I would not even consider putting money on it, or against it.

[Robust]

please do so. I won't be actually wagering real $ for or against RLM, for the record. just keeping a record of it, as you are. you can bust on me for not truly making these plays, but since I think the whole "system" is a contrived joke, I would not even consider putting money on it, or against it.

feel like calling you a feline, but whatever.. you said fade... i assumed you would bet them and "increase" your bankroll..

no use to post rlm for ya then.. no bet = crap arguement as you have nothing to lose.. you simply wanna shoot your mouth off..

lame

Robust

[patsfan2727]

Bengals +13.5 is RLM at 79% for Ind (1/2 point drop).. so Take Indy..

Hou is +5.5 RLM with 84% for GB (1 point drop).. so Take GB..

not sure if you consider RLM 1/2 or a full point, but there are two to fade..

will post more later..

Robust

thanks for giving me the RLM plays. also, thank you for explaining to me how to fade your picks.

[patsfan2727]

feel like calling you a feline, but whatever.. you said fade... i assumed you would bet them and "increase" your bankroll..

no use to post rlm for ya then.. no bet = crap arguement as you have nothing to lose.. you simply wanna shoot your mouth off..

lame

Robust

why would I put my hard earned money for or against a system I JUST SAID WAS A TOTAL JOKE. maybe you don't quite understand Robust, so I will break it down for you...."I don't put any stock into this contrived system" It is my belief that this "RLM" play has no bearing on the outcome of the game whatsoever. Thats like saying if a team scored an ODD number of points last game, bet on them this game. That would be an equally retarded system, which I would never put money ON or AGAINST since it is my belief it has NO EFFECT on the outcome of the game. if i put money for or against you jokers, it would only be solidifying your point that you have a "system"

[Robust]

why would I put my hard earned money for or against a system I JUST SAID WAS A TOTAL JOKE. maybe you don't quite understand Robust, so I will break it down for you...."I don't put any stock into this contrived system" It is my belief that this "RLM" play has no bearing on the outcome of the game whatsoever. Thats like saying if a team scored an ODD number of points last game, bet on them this game. That would be an equally retarded system, which I would never put money ON or AGAINST since it is my belief it has NO EFFECT on the outcome of the game. if i put money for or against you jokers, it would only be solidifying your point that you have a "system"

alright.. last post explaining to ya..

you said it was crap and would fade it.. Fade = go the other way.

now you say if there is RLM, you simply won't take either side..

lame

good luck to you on your future wagers..

Robust

[Robust]

oh.. remember the jets just lost?

11/30/2008 DENVER BRONCOS 47.5 47.5*** 27% 50% 75% 34
16:15 EST NEW YORK JETS -9 -8.0*** 73% 50% 25% 17

rlm..

had it not been there, there is no way in HELL i woulda bet the crappy broncos..

Robust

[nick2060]

yea im not sure how anybody was suppose to know that you were "joking" considering you said "i truly believe"....but honestly RLM does serve a purpose cause if 70 percent is on a favourite and it goes down, its very likely that a LOT of money is being put on the minority. It may also mean the bookmaker is trying to encourage people to bet on a the team who is already the favourite because they truly believe the other team will win.

[patsfan2727]

oh.. remember the jets just lost?

11/30/2008 DENVER BRONCOS 47.5 47.5*** 27% 50% 75% 34
16:15 EST NEW YORK JETS -9 -8.0*** 73% 50% 25% 17

rlm..

had it not been there, there is no way in HELL i woulda bet the crappy broncos..

Robust

thats not RLM bro, thats called a trap game. letdown game off 2 big wins in the home stadium, huge spread inflated b/c of people being in love w. Brett Favre. but wait, I thought we weren't doing 1 game sample sizes.
RLM = pick the shit tiest teams each week then brag that you have a "system"

[Robust]

thats not RLM bro, thats called a trap game. letdown game off 2 big wins in the home stadium, huge spread inflated b/c of people being in love w. Brett Favre. but wait, I thought we weren't doing 1 game sample sizes.
RLM = pick the shit tiest teams each week then brag that you have a "system"

lol

ok.. seems you have closed your mind to the possiblility that this might have significance.. and as such, there is no need to debate any further as no side will be able to prove the strength or weakness..

good luck this sunday in whatever choices you make.

Robust

[patsfan2727]

what makes people think that Las Vegas knows the winner of the game prior to it being played? thats what makes me think this whole system is crap. For example, if they thought CINCY will win the game vs. Indy this weekend, why not make the line INDY +2 that way the world will be on the colts, and they will win all the bets?
I'll tell you why....because they don't know who will win the games. THEY WANT TO GENERATE EVEN ACTION so that NO MATTER WHO WINS, they get their 10% juice. that is my entire point of my argument, guys. Why would Las Vegas want to run the risk of everyone being on the colts? Then they are gambling just like us. Vegas wants 50/50 action so they are guaranteed a profit. thats why RLM is just people's attempt to out-think the thinkers....a losing proposition....

[patsfan2727]

bottom line is, Vegas wants 50/50 action. you ever think RLM is a gimmick on vegas' part to get more people on the wrong side? hey, that Louisville line is dropping, let me get it quick while its still at +10.5. they got LT last night.

[Robust]

what makes people think that Las Vegas knows the winner of the game prior to it being played? thats what makes me think this whole system is crap. For example, if they thought CINCY will win the game vs. Indy this weekend, why not make the line INDY +2 that way the world will be on the colts, and they will win all the bets?
I'll tell you why....because they don't know who will win the games. THEY WANT TO GENERATE EVEN ACTION so that NO MATTER WHO WINS, they get their 10% juice. that is my entire point of my argument, guys. Why would Las Vegas want to run the risk of everyone being on the colts? Then they are gambling just like us. Vegas wants 50/50 action so they are guaranteed a profit. thats why RLM is just people's attempt to out-think the thinkers....a losing proposition....

and you are 100% correct.. I am with ya with the stuff in bold..

what you fail to concede (or comprehend) is there are people that are professional gamblers who find edges in games that the rest of us miss and bet accordingly.. LARGE amounts of cash.. this causes RLM..

now, if they were wrong 50% of the time or more, these people would go broke, no? (you're the mathematician)

so why would they do it?? BECAUSE they are right MORE TIMES THAN NOT..

sheesh bro.. even getting tired of typing this stuff out as it should be OBVIOUS.

Robust

[spmurph]

Fade this RLM pick....PHI +7 1/2 over NY Giants

1 1/2 point RLM

[patsfan2727]

and you are 100% correct.. I am with ya with the stuff in bold..

what you fail to concede (or comprehend) is there are people that are professional gamblers who find edges in games that the rest of us miss and bet accordingly.. LARGE amounts of cash.. this causes RLM..

now, if they were wrong 50% of the time or more, these people would go broke, no? (you're the mathematician)

so why would they do it?? BECAUSE they are right MORE TIMES THAN NOT..

sheesh bro.. even getting tired of typing this stuff out as it should be OBVIOUS.

Robust

yeah, I guess I missed Oakland's "edge" last night. 0-5 in their last 5 games playing San Diego. team in disarray, overrated QB. no defense. I'm clearly not a professional gambler as I really thought SD would win. Geez I wish I could be smarter to have seen that edge.

[patsfan2727]

I'm pretty sure if any of these "RLM" clowns actually made good money off any system they had in place, the LAST thing they would do is share this knowledge with anyone.

[Robust]

yeah, I guess I missed Oakland's "edge" last night. 0-5 in their last 5 games playing San Diego. team in disarray, overrated QB. no defense. I'm clearly not a professional gambler as I really thought SD would win. Geez I wish I could be smarter to have seen that edge.

an answer with a losing side as example to encompass all RLM's of the past..

no response to the simple math behind it.. i was sure calling out your math skills would make you concede the point..

you have closed off your reasoning and therefore this conversation can no longer continue..

good day..

Robust

[patsfan2727]

I get it, you cap the game and there is an edge on one side, thus creating a "sharp pick".

here's some math for you guys to enjoy. flip a coin 50 times, it should land on heads approximately 50% of the time. What if it lands on heads 30 times? Is "heads" the sharp pick because it is hitting at 60% ???? NO. Heads is the pick that's won 60% of the time. This is called random betting, just what the RLM system is. Wow, 55% over 2 months time. maybe this may be SLIGHTLY profitable, but by NO MEANS is it any type of correlation. I realize winning 70% may seem unreasonable, but there is no mathematical correlation to 50/50 event happeniing to hit 55% of the time. Flip a coin 50 times and you'll see this.

[nick2060]

nah patsfan, seriously if you only play serious RLM plays with patience, like at least 1 full point, then itll be profitable, i think the thing with most people is realizing there might not even be one game that falls into this category every night, and most gamblers are anxious to make money so they basically lowered the standards and play anything that reverses the least bit, i know i played RLM on miami heat to beat utah when most of the good cappers over in the nba section were on utah, but miami won, eitherway yea take it for what its worth

[patsfan2727]

that was a well thought out and intelligent post, nick. I think people give too much credit to the effect line movements have on the game. More importantly, I agree with you 100% that people play too many "RLM" picks. I would be more interested in the correlation of Positive Line Movement picks, such as last night's game when the line moved from -10 to -12.5 for Rutgers. Ball State has gone from -14 to -16 it seems....

[losturmarbles]

i say stop with all the threads about rlm and posting picks and calling them rlm picks, bc the more people that are aware of rlm, the less impact a rlm actually has.

just post your picks and say you have a system. leave it at that.

[patsfan2727]

Ball State Moneyline - fade that bitches!!! Going all in on this pick, hoping to catch a sweet 5% profit on the day!!

[Robust]

Ball State Moneyline - fade that bitches!!! Going all in on this pick, hoping to catch a sweet 5% profit on the day!!

bump with 1:10 left..

Robust

[Robust]

Ball State Moneyline - fade that bitches!!! Going all in on this pick, hoping to catch a sweet 5% profit on the day!!

42-24 Buffalo... i got your ball state here.. now go teach some more math so you can deposit in your account.. you just zero'ed it.. and RLM went 3-0 today!

took everything in me not to really let you have it.. take that as mercy since i don't like to make fun of a bad day for anyone.. but you were begging for it..

Robust

[Legend4Aday]

Personally I use Reverse - Reverse - Reverse line movement which works well

[TPowell]

fade RLM in hockey and see what happens

[el matador]

Robust--RLM

Robust,
ur threads are always helpful and informative....agree on RLM--play them to a certain degree, not to many though.
Who do u have for this week's rlm?
On Indy & GB, did u mean to play them or against them?
thks for the info bro.

[Robust]

waiting for the "BIG" FU or a humble maybe...

your call..

Robust

[Robust]

Robust,
ur threads are always helpful and informative....agree on RLM--play them to a certain degree, not to many though.
Who do u have for this week's rlm?
On Indy & GB, did u mean to play them or against them?
thks for the info bro.

play cincy and houston... i cannot guarentee 2-0.. but i will say they are a GREAT bet...

Robust

[patsfan2727]

hey Robust, Jesus Christ why don't you bump this thread 8 more times before 10 am on Saturday??? there were no RRLM plays posted last night. All in on BSU ML was a joke. you clearly didn't get the joke I was making about making 5% profit on your stupid RLM plays. but since you want to be a d.ick about it:

INDY -13.5
GB - 5.5
NYG - 7.5

fyi.... IT'S SPELLED "GUARANTEE" ass

[nick2060]

wow this patsfan is like the new keystone kid