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  • HeeluvaGuy
    SBR MVP
    • 02-15-14
    • 3449

    #526
    7:00

    Western Michigan/Miami (OH) o141.5


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    • HeeluvaGuy
      SBR MVP
      • 02-15-14
      • 3449

      #527
      Probably the last one:

      7:00

      Auburn/Arkansas u148


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      • HeeluvaGuy
        SBR MVP
        • 02-15-14
        • 3449

        #528
        I had some time today to go back and confirm something that I thought I was seeing. The extra game totals are underperforming the model as a whole. In the 10 days I looked at, the extra totals were just 99-105 (48%). Something to keep in mind as we go forward.
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        • HeeluvaGuy
          SBR MVP
          • 02-15-14
          • 3449

          #529
          Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
          I had some time today to go back and confirm something that I thought I was seeing. The extra game totals are underperforming the model as a whole. In the 10 days I looked at, the extra totals were just 99-105 (48%). Something to keep in mind as we go forward.
          Following up on this, I went back to 1/1, which is basically the start of conference play. That 48% holds the whole time, while the non-extra games are at 52%.

          This doesn't surprise me. The extra teams are largely bad offensively and defensively statistically speaking, and models like these tend to struggle at the margins.

          I'm not going to eliminate those games entirely, but I will definitely proceed with caution when deciding whether to play them.
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          • bigbluemist
            SBR High Roller
            • 04-06-11
            • 121

            #530
            Interesting.

            Thanks for the work you put in and share.
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            • Mike Huntertz
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 08-19-09
              • 11204

              #531
              Always tweaking eh, HG??
              Thanxs for your stuff.
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              • JayDr3am
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 05-06-14
                • 18260

                #532
                Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                I had some time today to go back and confirm something that I thought I was seeing. The extra game totals are underperforming the model as a whole. In the 10 days I looked at, the extra totals were just 99-105 (48%). Something to keep in mind as we go forward.
                thank you for the nugget HG
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                • HeeluvaGuy
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-15-14
                  • 3449

                  #533
                  Originally posted by Mike Huntertz
                  Always tweaking eh, HG??
                  Thanxs for your stuff.
                  For better or worse, that's the only way I know. But just to avoid any confusion, I haven't actually made a change to the model since I adjusted the pace down back on 12/20. I did, however, add one more level of analysis 5 or 6 days ago (after the 1-5 night). So far, so good.

                  Thanks for popping in.
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                  • HeeluvaGuy
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-15-14
                    • 3449

                    #534
                    Originally posted by bigbluemist
                    Interesting.

                    Thanks for the work you put in and share.

                    I always say, I do it because I enjoy it. And since I'm doing it, might as well share. Even with Kentucky fans.
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                    • mjsuax13
                      Moderator
                      • 03-14-15
                      • 24838

                      #535
                      Nice work HG. Keep it up!
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                      • bigbluemist
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 04-06-11
                        • 121

                        #536
                        🤬🤬🤬 overtime!!!🤬🤬🤬
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                        • Mackballs
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 12-01-16
                          • 5810

                          #537
                          We may get ot fukked in both of these.
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                          • HeeluvaGuy
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-15-14
                            • 3449

                            #538
                            Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                            2/4

                            Tennessee/Alabama u146.5



                            Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                            7:00

                            Western Michigan/Miami (OH) o141.5



                            Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                            7:00

                            Auburn/Arkansas u148


                            1-2 -1.2u
                            YTD: 118-93 +15.95u
                            Feb: 9-6 +2.4u

                            Jan: 57-49 +2.62u
                            Dec: 52-38 +10.93u

                            The overtime thing is frustrating, but the bigger problem was that at one point Arkansas was 10-17 from three. They shoot about 31% on the season, and Auburn allows about 31% from three. Shouldn't have ever been that close if the matchup had played out like it should have. Guess I'll try to be luckier tomorrow.
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                            • HeeluvaGuy
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-15-14
                              • 3449

                              #539
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                              • bigbluemist
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 04-06-11
                                • 121

                                #540
                                Exactly!!!
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                                • HeeluvaGuy
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-15-14
                                  • 3449

                                  #541
                                  2/5

                                  7:00

                                  Loyola (IL)/Indiana St o127.5
                                  Wofford/VMI o134.5

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                                  • bigbluemist
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 04-06-11
                                    • 121

                                    #542
                                    Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                    2/5

                                    7:00

                                    Loyola (IL)/Indiana St o127.5
                                    Wofford/VMI o134.5

                                    I show Loyola- Ind St going at 600EST
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                                    • HeeluvaGuy
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-15-14
                                      • 3449

                                      #543
                                      Originally posted by bigbluemist
                                      I show Loyola- Ind St going at 600EST
                                      You’re right. It’s a 6:00 start. I’ll leave it just so the picks aren’t edited.
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                                      • HeeluvaGuy
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-15-14
                                        • 3449

                                        #544
                                        8:30

                                        NC State/Miami (FL) o141.5

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                                        • HeeluvaGuy
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-15-14
                                          • 3449

                                          #545
                                          Barring some unexpected line movement, that’s it for me tonight. GL!
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                                          • JayDr3am
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 05-06-14
                                            • 18260

                                            #546
                                            Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                            Barring some unexpected line movement, that’s it for me tonight. GL!
                                            theres alot of funky line movement today im not fond of
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                                            • RM Logic
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 12-09-13
                                              • 847

                                              #547
                                              Loyola couldnt even score 40 points. These MVC teams cant score at all. Its like watching 1930's basketball.
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                                              • Louisvillekid1
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 10-17-07
                                                • 52143

                                                #548
                                                Nice work per usual
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                                                • HeeluvaGuy
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-15-14
                                                  • 3449

                                                  #549
                                                  Originally posted by RM Logic
                                                  Loyola couldnt even score 40 points. These MVC teams cant score at all. Its like watching 1930's basketball.
                                                  They were awful. They scored 8 points over a 20 minute span at one point.
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                                                  • HeeluvaGuy
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-15-14
                                                    • 3449

                                                    #550
                                                    Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                    Nice work per usual
                                                    Nice to see you around. Hope all is well.
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                                                    • HeeluvaGuy
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 02-15-14
                                                      • 3449

                                                      #551
                                                      Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                                      2/5

                                                      7:00

                                                      Loyola (IL)/Indiana St o127.5
                                                      Wofford/VMI o134.5

                                                      Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                                      8:30

                                                      NC State/Miami (FL) o141.5

                                                      2-1 +.9u
                                                      YTD: 120-94 +16.85u
                                                      Feb: 11-7 +3.3u

                                                      Jan: 57-49 +2.62u
                                                      Dec: 52-38 +10.93u
                                                      If Loyola had given us anything it could have been a sweep. But I will never complain about 2-1.
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                                                      • Fred The Hammer
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 08-13-13
                                                        • 11567

                                                        #552
                                                        Nice work as usual!!

                                                        Do you ever play overnights? I got BYU/Portland Over 146. Its 150 now. Tenn Martin was 152, but I'm scared of Tenn Tech's #340 offense.

                                                        Tenn Martin is 16-3 Over on the season. Another one I hit on SB Sunday is Neb Omaha. They went 20 pts Over last night and are on a 12-4 Over streak!
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                                                        • HeeluvaGuy
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 02-15-14
                                                          • 3449

                                                          #553
                                                          Originally posted by Fred The Hammer
                                                          Nice work as usual!!

                                                          Do you ever play overnights? I got BYU/Portland Over 146. Its 150 now. Tenn Martin was 152, but I'm scared of Tenn Tech's #340 offense.

                                                          Tenn Martin is 16-3 Over on the season. Another one I hit on SB Sunday is Neb Omaha. They went 20 pts Over last night and are on a 12-4 Over streak!
                                                          Honestly, I get to it when I get to it. Most nights I typically do updates for the next day and review results. If I have time and energy, I’ll start looking at games. I probably sound like a broken record, but I don’t lose sleep over missing a few good numbers overnight. There are so many games that passing on a handful a day due to line movements is no biggie.

                                                          On a side note, there seems to be much more talk about trends on this board than I remember in recent years. I rarely ever look at that stuff, but it seems like folks are using it to some success this year.
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                                                          • HeeluvaGuy
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 02-15-14
                                                            • 3449

                                                            #554
                                                            Sorry guys, it’s gonna be another piecemeal day. My plan is to go chronologically through the start times. I’ll see what I can get done.

                                                            2/6

                                                            6:00

                                                            USC Upstate/UNC Asheville o147


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                                                            • HeeluvaGuy
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 02-15-14
                                                              • 3449

                                                              #555
                                                              7:00

                                                              UTSA/Old Dominion o142
                                                              UCF/East Carolina o134.5

                                                              7:30

                                                              North Texas/Middle Tennessee o134



                                                              This is up to the 8:00 games but does not include the extra games. Time permitting I’ll get to those later.
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                                                              • HeeluvaGuy
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 02-15-14
                                                                • 3449

                                                                #556
                                                                8:00

                                                                Georgia St/Louisiana u156

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                                                                • Fred The Hammer
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 08-13-13
                                                                  • 11567

                                                                  #557
                                                                  Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                                                  Honestly, I get to it when I get to it. Most nights I typically do updates for the next day and review results. If I have time and energy, I’ll start looking at games. I probably sound like a broken record, but I don’t lose sleep over missing a few good numbers overnight. There are so many games that passing on a handful a day due to line movements is no biggie.

                                                                  On a side note, there seems to be much more talk about trends on this board than I remember in recent years. I rarely ever look at that stuff, but it seems like folks are using it to some success this year.
                                                                  I've always been a streak player because you can hit an ungodly % and always go away quick when it starts to fizzle. Right or wrong? Taking it game by game is always smart. You and my buddy hit NC State Over last night, but I was scared off because NC State couldn't hit shit lately and was on a 11-1 Under streak. It hit and you guys won while I missed out. It happens. Good thread and I enjoy your process. Its good to share ideas! GL!!
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                                                                  • HeeluvaGuy
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 02-15-14
                                                                    • 3449

                                                                    #558
                                                                    9:00

                                                                    Eastern Washington/Montana o145.5




                                                                    That’s it for the regular games.
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                                                                    • HeeluvaGuy
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 02-15-14
                                                                      • 3449

                                                                      #559
                                                                      Originally posted by Fred The Hammer
                                                                      I've always been a streak player because you can hit an ungodly % and always go away quick when it starts to fizzle. Right or wrong? Taking it game by game is always smart. You and my buddy hit NC State Over last night, but I was scared off because NC State couldn't hit shit lately and was on a 11-1 Under streak. It hit and you guys won while I missed out. It happens. Good thread and I enjoy your process. Its good to share ideas! GL!!
                                                                      The best streak/trend I’ve ever played was the Detroit Tigers’ over streak a few years ago. Picked it up after 8 or 9 games and I think the streak got to 20. Good times.
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                                                                      • Hman
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 11-04-17
                                                                        • 21429

                                                                        #560
                                                                        GL tonight
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