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  • suicidekings
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    • 03-23-09
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    #316
    Originally posted by suicidekings
    5/16

    BOS/ORL 1Q O48 (-113) x1.5
    BOS/ORL 1H O94.5 (-113) x2.5

    BOS/ORL O187 (-117) x4
    LIVE: BOS/ORL O180.5 (-112) x4

    BOS/ORL 2H O94 (-105) x4
    1-4 (-9.68u)
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    • suicidekings
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      • 03-23-09
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      #317
      5/17

      LAL 1Q -2 (-106) x2.5
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      • HoulihansTX
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        • 02-12-09
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        #318
        GL tonight.

        I'm on Lakers first Qtr also.
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        • suicidekings
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          • 03-23-09
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          #319
          Originally posted by HoulihansTX
          GL tonight.

          I'm on Lakers first Qtr also.
          Thanks. Probably going to play this game quarter by quarter, I think.
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          • suicidekings
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            • 03-23-09
            • 9962

            #320
            Originally posted by suicidekings

            Thanks. Probably going to play this game quarter by quarter, I think.
            LIVE: LAL -5 (+109) x5
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            • suicidekings
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              • 03-23-09
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              #321
              LAL 2Q ML (+115) x1
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              • HoulihansTX
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                • 02-12-09
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                #322
                Live lines have major middling opportunities.

                222
                lakers -8

                Cant get much easier than that.
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                • suicidekings
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                  • 03-23-09
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                  #323
                  Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                  Live lines have major middling opportunities.

                  222
                  lakers -8

                  Cant get much easier than that.
                  Live betting is amazing, hands down. The middles are often too tempting to pass up. My favourite though, is definitely evading the huge MLs through live lines. I'm always confused by people that don't see the value in it, but then place huge value on line shopping for a difference of pennies...
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                  • HoulihansTX
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                    • 02-12-09
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                    #324
                    Its a complete joke I know, but many people go by old school vegas philosophies that are out dated.

                    Live lines have, or will change peoples outlook on the value of lines.
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                    • JOHON8
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                      • 01-28-10
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                      #325
                      I've been betting live in soccer also, it's pretty damn good if you have a feel for the sport/teams. I don't think books have the same advantage pre-game than they do live.
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                      • suicidekings
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                        • 03-23-09
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                        #326
                        PHX/LAL 2H O106 (-105) x2.5
                        LAL 3Q -1 (+105) x1

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                        • HoulihansTX
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                          • 02-12-09
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                          #327
                          Took the Suns TT 53 OV
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                          • suicidekings
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                            #328
                            Originally posted by JOHON8
                            I've been betting live in soccer also, it's pretty damn good if you have a feel for the sport/teams. I don't think books have the same advantage pre-game than they do live.
                            You think the books have the advantage live? I totally disagree. Live betting effectively requires some work ahead of time and a very good understanding of what line you want and how much it's worth to you. Pre-game, the books can set the line wherever they want, but during the game they're forced to post lines that are reflective of the current score/tempo, even when they don't always align with their predictions of the final score.
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                            • suicidekings
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                              • 03-23-09
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                              #329
                              Lakers 3Q at home is almost as strong a trend as the Lakers 1Q
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                              • lakerboy
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                                • 04-02-09
                                • 94379

                                #330
                                Originally posted by suicidekings
                                You think the books have the advantage live? I totally disagree. Live betting effectively requires some work ahead of time and a very good understanding of what line you want and how much it's worth to you. Pre-game, the books can set the line wherever they want, but during the game they're forced to post lines that are reflective of the current score/tempo, even when they don't always align with their predictions of the final score.

                                I agree live betting favors the instinctual knowledgeable educated sports fan/historian.
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                                • HoulihansTX
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                                  • 02-12-09
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                                  #331
                                  Originally posted by lakerboy
                                  I agree live betting favors the instinctual knowledgeable educated sports fan/historian.
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                                  • suicidekings
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                                    • 03-23-09
                                    • 9962

                                    #332
                                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                                    I agree live betting favors the instinctual knowledgeable educated sports fan/historian.
                                    IMO, the math/stats guys have the most to gain from live betting, as they have the most flexibility to re-evaluate lines on the fly and operate in what's typically a ~90 second window to bet.
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                                    • suicidekings
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                                      • 03-23-09
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                                      #333
                                      Originally posted by suicidekings
                                      5/17

                                      LAL 1Q -2 (-106) x2.5
                                      LIVE: LAL -5 (+109) x5

                                      LAL 2Q ML (+115) x1
                                      PHX/LAL 2H O106 (-105) x2.5
                                      LAL 3Q -1 (+105) x1

                                      5/17: 4-1 (+10.5u)
                                      Playoffs: 93-105-4 (+74.64u)
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                                      • suicidekings
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                                        • 03-23-09
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                                        #334
                                        Orlando Magic (series) (-110) x12

                                        While I'm not completely ruling out the Celtics winning the series, I still really think the Magic will take it. This seems like the ideal time to buy the Magic series price at only -110. The likelihood of Boston taking a stranglehold on the series tomorrow is very low in my opinion, and the chances of Orlando performing so far below their talent level again in this series is even less likely...
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                                        • suicidekings
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                                          • 03-23-09
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                                          #335
                                          ORL 1Q -2.5 (-105) x5 x3
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                                          • SparJMU
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                                            • 02-18-10
                                            • 1648

                                            #336
                                            Quick question for you SK......I am new to betting 1Q and 1H lines. My pick today is Orlando to come out hot and get an early lead on Boston, however I was surprised the line was so high at -2.5 (-120) on my two sites. I was thinking the 1Q or 1H lines would be exactly 1/4 or 1/2 of the overall line, respectively (e.g. Full game line is -4, so 1Q line is -1 and 1H line is -2).

                                            Is it normal for a line like Orlando -2.5 in the 1Q, which is equivalent to Orlando -10 for the game, despite the fact the line is only -7 or -7.5? Should we infer that Vegas agrees with Orlando's 1Q advantage based on the fact they inflated that line to -2.5?
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                                            • suicidekings
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                                              • 03-23-09
                                              • 9962

                                              #337
                                              Originally posted by suicidekings
                                              ORL 1Q -2.5 (-105) x5 x3
                                              Reduced as shown. Adding:

                                              ORL -7 (-103) x7
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                                              • suicidekings
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                                                • 03-23-09
                                                • 9962

                                                #338
                                                Originally posted by SparJMU
                                                Quick question for you SK......I am new to betting 1Q and 1H lines. My pick today is Orlando to come out hot and get an early lead on Boston, however I was surprised the line was so high at -2.5 (-120) on my two sites. I was thinking the 1Q or 1H lines would be exactly 1/4 or 1/2 of the overall line, respectively (e.g. Full game line is -4, so 1Q line is -1 and 1H line is -2).

                                                Is it normal for a line like Orlando -2.5 in the 1Q, which is equivalent to Orlando -10 for the game, despite the fact the line is only -7 or -7.5? Should we infer that Vegas agrees with Orlando's 1Q advantage based on the fact they inflated that line to -2.5?
                                                1Q lines are typically about 30% of the game line, and the 1H lines are about 60% of the game line. 2.5 is right where it would typically sit on a game spread of 7.5. Below is the table I created as a quick reference for myself this season. Hope it helps.

                                                1Q 1H GM
                                                pk pk pk
                                                pk pk 0.5
                                                pk 0.5 1
                                                0.5 1 1.5
                                                0.5 1 2
                                                1 1.5 2.5
                                                1 1.5 3
                                                1 2 3.5
                                                1.5 2.5 4
                                                1.5 3 4.5
                                                1.5 3 5
                                                2 3.5 5.5
                                                2 3.5 6
                                                2 3.5 6.5
                                                2 4 7
                                                2.5 4.5 7.5
                                                2.5 4.5 8
                                                3 5 8.5
                                                3 5.5 9
                                                3 5.5 9.5
                                                3 6 10
                                                3 6 10.5
                                                3.5 6.5 11
                                                3.5 6.5 11.5
                                                4 7 12
                                                4 7 12.5
                                                4 7.5 13
                                                4 7.5 13.5
                                                4 8 14
                                                4.5 8.5 14.5
                                                4.5 8.5 15
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                                                • suicidekings
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                                                  • 03-23-09
                                                  • 9962

                                                  #339
                                                  Originally posted by suicidekings
                                                  PARLAY (+458): BOS (CLE series) (+330) / Lakers (PHX series) (-335) x2
                                                  Gonna arb this out right now.

                                                  Suns (LAL series) (+472) x1.95

                                                  Result guarantees 7.2u profit (out of a possible 9.1u) from the series regardless of outcome. Easy money.
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                                                  • Goat Milk
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                                                    • 03-24-10
                                                    • 25850

                                                    #340
                                                    Originally posted by suicidekings

                                                    Gonna arb this out right now.

                                                    Suns (LAL series) (+472) x1.95

                                                    Result guarantees 7.2u profit (out of a possible 9.1u) from the series regardless of outcome. Easy money.
                                                    your a master of middling opportunities.
                                                    Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                    • suicidekings
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                                                      • 03-23-09
                                                      • 9962

                                                      #341
                                                      Originally posted by suicidekings
                                                      ORL 1Q -2.5 (-105) x5 x3
                                                      ORL 2Q -2.5 (-110) x2
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                                                      • SparJMU
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-18-10
                                                        • 1648

                                                        #342
                                                        And a Tony Allen runner in traffic dooms the 1Q line by 1 bucket. Sucks.
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                                                        • suicidekings
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                                                          • 03-23-09
                                                          • 9962

                                                          #343
                                                          2H O98.5 (-108) x5
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                                                          • suicidekings
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                                                            • 03-23-09
                                                            • 9962

                                                            #344
                                                            Originally posted by suicidekings
                                                            ORL 1Q -2.5 (-105) x3
                                                            ORL -7 (-103) x7
                                                            ORL 2Q -2.5 (-110) x2
                                                            2H O98.5 (-108) x5
                                                            Well, the Magic got me good...

                                                            5/18: 0-4 (-17.96u)
                                                            Playoffs: 93-109-4 (+56.68u)
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                                                            • suicidekings
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                                                              • 03-23-09
                                                              • 9962

                                                              #345
                                                              5/22 Masochist Picks

                                                              Magic +3.5 (-105) x2
                                                              Magic ML (+155) x2
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                                                              • suicidekings
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                                                                • 03-23-09
                                                                • 9962

                                                                #346
                                                                Originally posted by suicidekings
                                                                Magic +3.5 (-105) x2
                                                                Magic ML (+155) x2
                                                                LIVE: ORL ML (+394) x1 (3 min left in 1Q)
                                                                LIVE: ORL ML (+512) x0.5 (end of 1Q)


                                                                ML equivalent: ORL ML (+274) x3.5
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                                                                • suicidekings
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                                                                  • 03-23-09
                                                                  • 9962

                                                                  #347
                                                                  5/23

                                                                  phx 1q -0.5 (-110) x1.5
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                                                                  • suicidekings
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                                                                    • 03-23-09
                                                                    • 9962

                                                                    #348
                                                                    LIVE: LAL ML (-108) x4
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                                                                    • Goat Milk
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                                                                      • 03-24-10
                                                                      • 25850

                                                                      #349
                                                                      Suicide- LA has taken 1 free throw half almost over. Suns shooting terrible and still tie game...
                                                                      Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                                      • suicidekings
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                                                                        • 03-23-09
                                                                        • 9962

                                                                        #350
                                                                        Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                                                        Suicide- LA has taken 1 free throw half almost over. Suns shooting terrible and still tie game...
                                                                        Neither team is actually playing great. Are the Suns pick&rolls going to continue penetrating like they have been? Can the zone D shut down the Lakers for another 24 minutes?

                                                                        I admit I don't like how the Lakers finished the 1H, but we'll see how the 2H starts.
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