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SK: NBA Playoffs 2010
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suicidekingsSBR Hall of Famer
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#3161-4 (-9.68u)Comment -
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#3175/17
LAL 1Q -2 (-106) x2.5Comment -
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#318GL tonight.
I'm on Lakers first Qtr also.Comment -
suicidekingsSBR Hall of Famer
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#319Thanks. Probably going to play this game quarter by quarter, I think.Originally posted by HoulihansTXGL tonight.
I'm on Lakers first Qtr also.Comment -
suicidekingsSBR Hall of Famer
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#320LIVE: LAL -5 (+109) x5Originally posted by suicidekings
Thanks.Probably going to play this game quarter by quarter, I think.Comment -
suicidekingsSBR Hall of Famer
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#321LAL 2Q ML (+115) x1Comment -
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#322Live lines have major middling opportunities.
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lakers -8
Cant get much easier than that.Comment -
suicidekingsSBR Hall of Famer
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#323Live betting is amazing, hands down. The middles are often too tempting to pass up. My favourite though, is definitely evading the huge MLs through live lines. I'm always confused by people that don't see the value in it, but then place huge value on line shopping for a difference of pennies...Originally posted by HoulihansTXLive lines have major middling opportunities.
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lakers -8
Cant get much easier than that.Comment -
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#324Its a complete joke I know, but many people go by old school vegas philosophies that are out dated.
Live lines have, or will change peoples outlook on the value of lines.Comment -
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#325I've been betting live in soccer also, it's pretty damn good if you have a feel for the sport/teams. I don't think books have the same advantage pre-game than they do live.Comment -
suicidekingsSBR Hall of Famer
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#326PHX/LAL 2H O106 (-105) x2.5
LAL 3Q -1 (+105) x1
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#327Took the Suns TT 53 OVComment -
suicidekingsSBR Hall of Famer
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#328You think the books have the advantage live? I totally disagree. Live betting effectively requires some work ahead of time and a very good understanding of what line you want and how much it's worth to you. Pre-game, the books can set the line wherever they want, but during the game they're forced to post lines that are reflective of the current score/tempo, even when they don't always align with their predictions of the final score.Originally posted by JOHON8I've been betting live in soccer also, it's pretty damn good if you have a feel for the sport/teams. I don't think books have the same advantage pre-game than they do live.Comment -
suicidekingsSBR Hall of Famer
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#329Lakers 3Q at home is almost as strong a trend as the Lakers 1Q
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#330Originally posted by suicidekingsYou think the books have the advantage live? I totally disagree. Live betting effectively requires some work ahead of time and a very good understanding of what line you want and how much it's worth to you. Pre-game, the books can set the line wherever they want, but during the game they're forced to post lines that are reflective of the current score/tempo, even when they don't always align with their predictions of the final score.
I agree live betting favors the instinctual knowledgeable educated sports fan/historian.Comment -
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#331Originally posted by lakerboyI agree live betting favors the instinctual knowledgeable educated sports fan/historian.
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suicidekingsSBR Hall of Famer
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#332IMO, the math/stats guys have the most to gain from live betting, as they have the most flexibility to re-evaluate lines on the fly and operate in what's typically a ~90 second window to bet.Originally posted by lakerboyI agree live betting favors the instinctual knowledgeable educated sports fan/historian.Comment -
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#3335/17: 4-1 (+10.5u)Originally posted by suicidekings5/17
LAL 1Q -2 (-106) x2.5
LIVE: LAL -5 (+109) x5
LAL 2Q ML (+115) x1
PHX/LAL 2H O106 (-105) x2.5
LAL 3Q -1 (+105) x1
Playoffs: 93-105-4 (+74.64u)Comment -
suicidekingsSBR Hall of Famer
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#334Orlando Magic (series) (-110) x12
While I'm not completely ruling out the Celtics winning the series, I still really think the Magic will take it. This seems like the ideal time to buy the Magic series price at only -110. The likelihood of Boston taking a stranglehold on the series tomorrow is very low in my opinion, and the chances of Orlando performing so far below their talent level again in this series is even less likely...Comment -
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#335ORL 1Q -2.5 (-105)x5x3Comment -
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#336Quick question for you SK......I am new to betting 1Q and 1H lines. My pick today is Orlando to come out hot and get an early lead on Boston, however I was surprised the line was so high at -2.5 (-120) on my two sites. I was thinking the 1Q or 1H lines would be exactly 1/4 or 1/2 of the overall line, respectively (e.g. Full game line is -4, so 1Q line is -1 and 1H line is -2).
Is it normal for a line like Orlando -2.5 in the 1Q, which is equivalent to Orlando -10 for the game, despite the fact the line is only -7 or -7.5? Should we infer that Vegas agrees with Orlando's 1Q advantage based on the fact they inflated that line to -2.5?Comment -
suicidekingsSBR Hall of Famer
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#337Reduced as shown. Adding:Originally posted by suicidekingsORL 1Q -2.5 (-105)x5x3
ORL -7 (-103) x7Comment -
suicidekingsSBR Hall of Famer
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#3381Q lines are typically about 30% of the game line, and the 1H lines are about 60% of the game line. 2.5 is right where it would typically sit on a game spread of 7.5. Below is the table I created as a quick reference for myself this season. Hope it helps.Originally posted by SparJMUQuick question for you SK......I am new to betting 1Q and 1H lines. My pick today is Orlando to come out hot and get an early lead on Boston, however I was surprised the line was so high at -2.5 (-120) on my two sites. I was thinking the 1Q or 1H lines would be exactly 1/4 or 1/2 of the overall line, respectively (e.g. Full game line is -4, so 1Q line is -1 and 1H line is -2).
Is it normal for a line like Orlando -2.5 in the 1Q, which is equivalent to Orlando -10 for the game, despite the fact the line is only -7 or -7.5? Should we infer that Vegas agrees with Orlando's 1Q advantage based on the fact they inflated that line to -2.5?
1Q 1H GM
pk pk pk
pk pk 0.5
pk 0.5 1
0.5 1 1.5
0.5 1 2
1 1.5 2.5
1 1.5 3
1 2 3.5
1.5 2.5 4
1.5 3 4.5
1.5 3 5
2 3.5 5.5
2 3.5 6
2 3.5 6.5
2 4 7
2.5 4.5 7.5
2.5 4.5 8
3 5 8.5
3 5.5 9
3 5.5 9.5
3 6 10
3 6 10.5
3.5 6.5 11
3.5 6.5 11.5
4 7 12
4 7 12.5
4 7.5 13
4 7.5 13.5
4 8 14
4.5 8.5 14.5
4.5 8.5 15Comment -
suicidekingsSBR Hall of Famer
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#339Gonna arb this out right now.Originally posted by suicidekingsPARLAY (+458): BOS (CLE series) (+330) / Lakers (PHX series) (-335) x2
Suns (LAL series) (+472) x1.95
Result guarantees 7.2u profit (out of a possible 9.1u) from the series regardless of outcome. Easy money.Comment -
Goat MilkBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 03-24-10
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#340your a master of middling opportunities.Originally posted by suicidekings
Gonna arb this out right now.
Suns (LAL series) (+472) x1.95
Result guarantees 7.2u profit (out of a possible 9.1u) from the series regardless of outcome. Easy money.Cause Sleep is the Cousin of DeathComment -
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#341ORL 2Q -2.5 (-110) x2Originally posted by suicidekingsORL 1Q -2.5 (-105)x5x3Comment -
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#342And a Tony Allen runner in traffic dooms the 1Q line by 1 bucket. Sucks.Comment -
suicidekingsSBR Hall of Famer
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#3432H O98.5 (-108) x5Comment -
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#344Well, the Magic got me good...Originally posted by suicidekingsORL 1Q -2.5 (-105) x3
ORL -7 (-103) x7
ORL 2Q -2.5 (-110) x2
2H O98.5 (-108) x5
5/18: 0-4 (-17.96u)
Playoffs: 93-109-4 (+56.68u)Comment -
suicidekingsSBR Hall of Famer
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#3455/22 Masochist Picks
Magic +3.5 (-105) x2
Magic ML (+155) x2Comment -
suicidekingsSBR Hall of Famer
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#346LIVE: ORL ML (+394) x1 (3 min left in 1Q)Originally posted by suicidekingsMagic +3.5 (-105) x2
Magic ML (+155) x2
LIVE: ORL ML (+512) x0.5 (end of 1Q)
ML equivalent: ORL ML (+274) x3.5Comment -
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phx 1q -0.5 (-110) x1.5Comment -
suicidekingsSBR Hall of Famer
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#348LIVE: LAL ML (-108) x4Comment -
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#349Suicide- LA has taken 1 free throw half almost over. Suns shooting terrible and still tie game...Cause Sleep is the Cousin of DeathComment -
suicidekingsSBR Hall of Famer
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#350Neither team is actually playing great. Are the Suns pick&rolls going to continue penetrating like they have been? Can the zone D shut down the Lakers for another 24 minutes?Originally posted by Goat MilkSuicide- LA has taken 1 free throw half almost over. Suns shooting terrible and still tie game...
I admit I don't like how the Lakers finished the 1H, but we'll see how the 2H starts.Comment
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