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  • djpremier36
    SBR MVP
    • 12-11-08
    • 3479

    #351
    Formulawiz,

    Are there any CBB plays today?

    GL and THX!
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    • gameday10
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 01-16-09
      • 601

      #352
      Originally posted by djpremier36
      Formulawiz,

      Are there any CBB plays today?

      GL and THX!
      Ohio -4
      Washington -1
      Arizona St -10.5, it is outside 10 point spread though. But so was Florida State yesterday and they were a pick.
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      • Formulawiz
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        • 01-12-09
        • 1589

        #353
        NBA - PR Chart

        NO Plays yesterday
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        • Formulawiz
          Restricted User
          • 01-12-09
          • 1589

          #354
          New automated NBA-PR spreadsheet

          I would like to thank Meestermike and Curious for helping automate our NBA-PR spreadsheet.
          The next morning when you open the spreadsheet it will automatically download all the closing lines and scores from the scoresandodds website.

          Procedure to obtain your plays.
          1. Open the spreadsheet and click on the Lines tab at the bottom of the worksheet.
          2. Make sure yesterdays closing lines and scores are there.
          3. Click on tools at the top of spreadsheet, macro, macro, highlite update_scores and click on run.
          4. Go to Stats tab and make sure scores and closing lines have been automatically updated. Note: you can change the closing lines and scores at anytime in the stats tab if you feel their incorrect.
          5. click on Rating tab then click on compute power ratings. Note: you can change the date you want to go back to at any time and re-calculate new PR's.
          6. To get plays click on Ratings tab and scroll all the way to the right until you see pick column.
          7. Scroll all the way down until you get the date the games are played on.
          8. Make sure you entered lines from the Stats tab only, if lines are not entered you will get incorrect plays.

          Very important: If Lines sheet displays yesterdays college stats instead, follow this procedure because the scores and lines in the Stats sheet will not update.
          1. In the Lines sheet right click on any value.
          2. Click on edit Query.
          3. New box appears, where it says enter table name, replace the number 1 with a number 2. Hopefully this should work.
          Thats it fellows, have fun.

          By the way Meestermike is currently working on the college spreadsheet and we hope to have it available soon.
          If there are any programmers who can help him, it would be appreciated.

          One more thought. I was not able to program the team picks properly. I was not able to skip teams with lower power ratings laying points as in the rules. If someone can make this change it would be appreciated.
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          • casinojack
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            • 01-26-09
            • 26

            #355
            WOW !!! Great job guys !! Thanks !!!
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            • DaChozen1
              SBR Rookie
              • 12-19-08
              • 44

              #356
              Does the Spreadsheet take into account all your rules like no double digits plays etc... that are listed on the 1st page of this thread??? so i entered all the lines and came up with the following plays for tonight.. let me know if this is what you guys get too want to make sure I did it right

              MilwaukeeSacramentoDetroitNew JerseyMinnesotaGolden StateOklahoma Looks like they are all underdogs did i do something wrong?
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              • DaChozen1
                SBR Rookie
                • 12-19-08
                • 44

                #357
                I think the way you need to do it is to click on the button that says "computer power averages based upon date" problem is when I change the date i get a runtime error 6... i put in 1/29 and 1/30 neither of them worked... seems like you have to leave it at the date it is on??? but thats getting old power rankings from 6/18/2008
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                • DaChozen1
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                  • 12-19-08
                  • 44

                  #358
                  Ok i see what the problem is now... the power ranking date only works up to 1/17... after that I get an error... why is that? i cant use the power rankings from 1/17 for todays games right? it needs to be updated to yesterdays so i can get the current power rankings so it would calculate the winners for todays game correctly...
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                  • PROGNOSTICATOR
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                    • 06-08-07
                    • 10

                    #359
                    Formulawiz...

                    Vegas uses these power ratings below. Dont ask me HERE how I know...just google me, and you can find me. You are leaving WAY too much $Money$ on the table for yourself! You should be hitting at least 70% in the NBA. You are so close with YOUR ratings, but you're missing 1 very key ingrediant. I'd love to help if you're interested...

                    WHAT VEGAS USUES....

                    1BOSTON1092ORLANDO1073CLEVELAND102 LA LAKERS1025NEW ORLEANS100 PHILADELPHIA100 PORTLAND1008SAN ANTONIO99 MIAMI9910DENVER9811HOUSTON9712CHARLOTTE9 6 MINNESOTA96 TORONTO96 PHOENIX9616UTAH95 ATLANTA95 DALLAS95 DETROIT9520NEW YORK9421MILWAUKEE93 INDIANA9323CHICAGO92 OKLAHOMA CITY9225NEW JERSEY91 GOLDEN STATE9127SACRAMENTO8928WASHINGTON8729MEM PHIS8630LA CLIPPERS84






                    THE_PROGNOSTICATOR
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                    • PROGNOSTICATOR
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 06-08-07
                      • 10

                      #360
                      Well, that paste job didn't work very well did it?...you know how to reach me...


                      PROGMAN
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                      • Formulawiz
                        Restricted User
                        • 01-12-09
                        • 1589

                        #361
                        Originally posted by DaChozen1
                        I think the way you need to do it is to click on the button that says "computer power averages based upon date" problem is when I change the date i get a runtime error 6... i put in 1/29 and 1/30 neither of them worked... seems like you have to leave it at the date it is on??? but thats getting old power rankings from 6/18/2008
                        You have to have enough games for both home and away. I believe its a minimum of 3 games. Anything less will give you a run time error.
                        Secondly all the rules in my first post apply.
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                        • casinojack
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                          • 01-26-09
                          • 26

                          #362
                          works ok for me when i changed the date, but would like to confirm tonights picks
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                          • DaChozen1
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 12-19-08
                            • 44

                            #363
                            More Questions

                            So for example for today's game what date should I be using to calculate the updated power rankings???

                            Also, do I have to manually figure out the rules from the original post or does the spreadsheet have those rules built into it>?
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                            • DaChozen1
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 12-19-08
                              • 44

                              #364
                              Casino Jack,

                              What date did you use?

                              It seems the last, most recent date that works is 1/17 but thats going back to far i need to use it from yestrday 1/29 but i get an error
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                              • Formulawiz
                                Restricted User
                                • 01-12-09
                                • 1589

                                #365
                                Originally posted by PROGNOSTICATOR
                                Formulawiz...

                                Vegas uses these power ratings below. Dont ask me HERE how I know...just google me, and you can find me. You are leaving WAY too much $Money$ on the table for yourself! You should be hitting at least 70% in the NBA. You are so close with YOUR ratings, but you're missing 1 very key ingrediant. I'd love to help if you're interested...

                                WHAT VEGAS USUES....

                                1BOSTON1092ORLANDO1073CLEVELAND102 LA LAKERS1025NEW ORLEANS100 PHILADELPHIA100 PORTLAND1008SAN ANTONIO99 MIAMI9910DENVER9811HOUSTON9712CHARLOTTE9 6 MINNESOTA96 TORONTO96 PHOENIX9616UTAH95 ATLANTA95 DALLAS95 DETROIT9520NEW YORK9421MILWAUKEE93 INDIANA9323CHICAGO92 OKLAHOMA CITY9225NEW JERSEY91 GOLDEN STATE9127SACRAMENTO8928WASHINGTON8729MEM PHIS8630LA CLIPPERS84






                                THE_PROGNOSTICATOR
                                I take it you downloaded the spreadsheet. Can you tell us exactly what we are missing. It would benefit us all. Secondly I have no idea as to numbers you listed can you explain them.
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                                • Formulawiz
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 01-12-09
                                  • 1589

                                  #366
                                  NBA Plays tonight

                                  Tonights games are
                                  BOS -6.5 or <
                                  NJN + 7.5 or >
                                  LAK - 8.5 or <
                                  CHI - 2.5 or <, but if it goes to Pickem no play
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                                  • DaChozen1
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 12-19-08
                                    • 44

                                    #367
                                    Formula Wiz,

                                    I think im close to figuring this spreadsheet out... i just used the dates prior to befoer the season so this way its only obtaining current power rankings now when i run it i get the same 4 teams you do but i also get an extra two teams.. miami and milwaukee... not sure why those 2 teams are showing up...i used 10/21/08 as my date to go back that far to calculate the power rankings.. any ideas?
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                                    • casinojack
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 01-26-09
                                      • 26

                                      #368
                                      Originally posted by DaChozen1
                                      Casino Jack,

                                      What date did you use?

                                      It seems the last, most recent date that works is 1/17 but thats going back to far i need to use it from yestrday 1/29 but i get an error

                                      1/30
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                                      • gameday10
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 01-16-09
                                        • 601

                                        #369
                                        got the new spreadsheet but can't get procedure 3 to update automatically. Where is tools?
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                                        • Formulawiz
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 01-12-09
                                          • 1589

                                          #370
                                          Originally posted by DaChozen1
                                          Formula Wiz,

                                          I think im close to figuring this spreadsheet out... i just used the dates prior to befoer the season so this way its only obtaining current power rankings now when i run it i get the same 4 teams you do but i also get an extra two teams.. miami and milwaukee... not sure why those 2 teams are showing up...i used 10/21/08 as my date to go back that far to calculate the power rankings.. any ideas?
                                          I was not able to program those teams that have a lower PR and are laying points. Someone needs to program the spreadsheet to pass these games.
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                                          • casinojack
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 01-26-09
                                            • 26

                                            #371
                                            Hmmm, Ill put this on private webpage maybe for us......Make is easier...
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                                            • DaChozen1
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 12-19-08
                                              • 44

                                              #372
                                              cant wait for the college spreadsheet are you guys planning on making 1 for college fb and nfl next year? keep up the great work!
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                                              • gameday10
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 01-16-09
                                                • 601

                                                #373
                                                Originally posted by DaChozen1
                                                cant wait for the college spreadsheet are you guys planning on making 1 for college fb and nfl next year? keep up the great work!
                                                I've been doing college since 1/21. The record is 20-16. Had a bad day yesterday. When using Rule 3 and the home team is the favorite, the home team is 1-9. When Rule 3, and the pick is the home team when they are the dog, the home team is 0-5. Got great records and Clemson was a pick yesterday when the game was a Rule 3 and VT was the pick but they were home team dog, so clemson was the play(even though the system picked VT). Been keeping records of other stuff besides just the overall and think I might be on to something.
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                                                • cgars1
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 01-18-09
                                                  • 657

                                                  #374
                                                  I want in this looks promising!
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                                                  • milton50
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 01-29-07
                                                    • 166

                                                    #375
                                                    Originally posted by gameday10
                                                    I've been doing college since 1/21. The record is 20-16. Had a bad day yesterday. When using Rule 3 and the home team is the favorite, the home team is 1-9. When Rule 3, and the pick is the home team when they are the dog, the home team is 0-5. Got great records and Clemson was a pick yesterday when the game was a Rule 3 and VT was the pick but they were home team dog, so clemson was the play(even though the system picked VT). Been keeping records of other stuff besides just the overall and think I might be on to something.

                                                    Yes...college has been good...I would be willing to throw some money together if you guys wanted to hire an excel programmer to create the college spreadsheet. Let me know.

                                                    ~Milton
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                                                    • Formulawiz
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 01-12-09
                                                      • 1589

                                                      #376
                                                      Originally posted by gameday10
                                                      I've been doing college since 1/21. The record is 20-16. Had a bad day yesterday. When using Rule 3 and the home team is the favorite, the home team is 1-9. When Rule 3, and the pick is the home team when they are the dog, the home team is 0-5. Got great records and Clemson was a pick yesterday when the game was a Rule 3 and VT was the pick but they were home team dog, so clemson was the play(even though the system picked VT). Been keeping records of other stuff besides just the overall and think I might be on to something.
                                                      I am not sure how your calculating the win/loss records but I would be careful. Remember the PR's change slowly but you cant go back in time using the current PR's. You would need to go back and delete the scores from past games and recalculatie the PR's and then see what games were picked.
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                                                      • Dfjay9
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 12-04-08
                                                        • 1576

                                                        #377
                                                        Formula - why is this showing Detroit as a play and some others?
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                                                        • Formulawiz
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                                                          • 01-12-09
                                                          • 1589

                                                          #378
                                                          Originally posted by DaChozen1
                                                          cant wait for the college spreadsheet are you guys planning on making 1 for college fb and nfl next year? keep up the great work!
                                                          I have several different excel spreadsheets for college and pro football. I believe I have 2 different ones. One is very similar to the NBA and the other spreadsheet is completely different. It works on Point diff, T/O, PEN Yds and TOP.
                                                          Their both pretty good. But as I mentioned I also heavily depend on the sportrends software.
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                                                          • gameday10
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 01-16-09
                                                            • 601

                                                            #379
                                                            Originally posted by Formulawiz
                                                            I am not sure how your calculating the win/loss records but I would be careful. Remember the PR's change slowly but you cant go back in time using the current PR's. You would need to go back and delete the scores from past games and recalculatie the PR's and then see what games were picked.
                                                            Not sure what you mean. I use sportrends and have done every game since 1/21 that they have on record. Don't quite get what your saying.
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                                                            • Formulawiz
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                                                              • 01-12-09
                                                              • 1589

                                                              #380
                                                              Originally posted by gameday10
                                                              Not sure what you mean. I use sportrends and have done every game since 1/21 that they have on record. Don't quite get what your saying.
                                                              I am not sure what you mean. Are you using their service, using the PR's on their website or using the PR spreadsheet. Be specific.
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                                                              • gameday10
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                                                                • 01-16-09
                                                                • 601

                                                                #381
                                                                Originally posted by Formulawiz
                                                                I am not sure what you mean. Are you using their service, using the PR's on their website or using the PR spreadsheet. Be specific.
                                                                PR on there website is what I am using.
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                                                                • Formulawiz
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                                                                  • 01-12-09
                                                                  • 1589

                                                                  #382
                                                                  Originally posted by gameday10
                                                                  PR on there website is what I am using.
                                                                  There is no way thats correct because I am using their spreadsheet which is the same as found on their website and I am way ahead. I am not sure if your adding 3 pts for HCA, not taking games where team w/lower PR is laying pts, passing on games where lines are > 10 and using the closing lines which I use 10-15 minutes before tip off.
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                                                                  • gameday10
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 01-16-09
                                                                    • 601

                                                                    #383
                                                                    Originally posted by Formulawiz
                                                                    There is no way thats correct because I am using their spreadsheet which is the same as found on their website and I am way ahead. I am not sure if your adding 3 pts for HCA, not taking games where team w/lower PR is laying pts, passing on games where lines are > 10 and using the closing lines which I use 10-15 minutes before tip off.
                                                                    I use spreads up to 12, which has only been about 6 but is more than 50%. There are way to many games to try and do 10-15 minutes before the game but I usually do it about an 45-hour before the game. And yes I add 3 for the HCA. I have a seperate record and other things dealing with lower PR laying points as I mentioned before so, no those are not included. Yes, I have done it correctly and have a 20-16 record. It had a horrible day yesteryday with 4 losses, but I counted arizona st. at 10.5 which makes it 5 losses. 1/28 it did about 50%.

                                                                    Also like to mention one reason for that record is 1/23(saturday) it did bad. Going like 4-7.
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                                                                    • Formulawiz
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                                                                      • 01-12-09
                                                                      • 1589

                                                                      #384
                                                                      Originally posted by gameday10
                                                                      I use spreads up to 12, which has only been about 6 but is more than 50%. There are way to many games to try and do 10-15 minutes before the game but I usually do it about an 45-hour before the game. And yes I add 3 for the HCA. I have a seperate record and other things dealing with lower PR laying points as I mentioned before so, no those are not included. Yes, I have done it correctly and have a 20-16 record. It had a horrible day yesteryday with 4 losses, but I counted arizona st. at 10.5 which makes it 5 losses. 1/28 it did about 50%.
                                                                      I can tell you there were only 2 losses yesterday so there must be something your doing wrong
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                                                                      • gameday10
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                                                                        • 01-16-09
                                                                        • 601

                                                                        #385
                                                                        You must have got washingotn -1 different then. That was the only border line play. Ohio was a loss and california loss. Az St was a loss since I do under 12. And also got washington -1 as a loss. So doing it your way there were 3 losses with the lines I used.
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