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cant believe nico through it away there! Bugger!Comment -
Come on fernado hold onComment -
well done guys.
you nailed it opti.Comment -
Thanks mate.
Lets keep it rolling with the fast cars now....Comment -
Anyone see the webber/alonso incident after the race he got a 10 place penaltyComment -
Yeah. Ridiculous ruling.
Although I heard Webber blame the rule book for not giving any other options rather than the stewards..Comment -
I remember as a youngster watching mansell giving a ride to senna at the british gpComment -
Have to admit I thought it was a bit dangerous as i watched it. And that was without knowing other cars had to take avoiding action when Fred slowed down.
But agree both those times are memorable. Webber hasn't got much else to show from this season
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Don't agree with Mark's penalty at all, but have to agree that they were a bit dangerous.
A fine and a slap on the wrist would have been much more appropriate. But I think what happened in the gp2 race on the cool down lap earlier in the day probably was still on the minds of the stewards as well.Comment -
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Yeah that gap in the fence to the left, that rossi was turning into is the entrance to the support paddock. Which is actually outside the circuit.
Leimer was going straight ahead instead to the F1 pits/parc ferme, as he made it onto the podium.Comment -
oh I see now. Could not see the gap first time i watched. Just assumed one must be there.
Bit more understandable knowing circumstances.
Boy I bet he felt dumb..Comment -
La Stampa says Game Over for Ferrari as RBR perfect difusser
24/09/2013
Game over Ferrari
Technical point: the Red Bull has managed to create the aerodynamic effect in a legal manner prohibited by the regulation. For opponents, the Ferrari down, no match
The triumph of Vettel in Singapore reduced nearly to zro the hopes of Ferraari. In technical point of Paul Filisetti here is how does the Red Bull to go so strong, especially in circuits with high downforce.
"After qualifying, we had noted what was the technical gap that separated Red Bull and Ferrari, analyzing RB9 the fact that you are in the course of the season proved to be an extremely long-lived cars, in terms of margins of development. We have alleged, among the causes who made this possible, the cast of technical regulations in recent years. Such opinion, after the race in Singapore, is even more strengthened, and at the same time the result, but also the way in which Vettel won, provide us confirmation that a clue on which we had based our ratings starting from Monza, proved exactly the key point of the competitiveness of RB9. I am referring to the speaker that was changed between Spa and Monza, now presented in its final form. In particular, this element is deeply modified in the side channels, where, in particular in correspondence of the outer, its terminal part diverges strongly outward, creating a true venturi profile.
Looking at the detail of this change on the starting grid at Monza and then here in Singapore, it was possible to note how its middle section is perfectly integrated to the position of the tailpipes, while the side sections correspond exactly to the position of "skirts heat "generated by the discharges themselves. In essence, it is clear that this element has been optimized to create that blow otherwise prevented by regulatory measures that tended specifically to avoid that produce this effect. In essence the RB9 are equipped with a diffuser fed to perfection by the air flow that is channeled into it using the heat of the exhaust gas.
Of course this is a completely regular, not at all comparable to the double diffuser of Brawn GP in 2009. The effects, however, against all opponents are devastating. The Red Bull on a high downforce track traveling on the tracks, with a speed of cornering is superior to others. Basically in Milton Keynes have reduced the time transient at best, relying on optimum traction in all conditions. Such a superiority that leaves annihilated especially at this point of the season, where usually the gaps tend to decrease rather than increase. For Ferrari, still mathematically in the title fight, it remains a moral obligation not to give up, to seize the opportunity in the event of defaillance opponent. The failure of the change of Webber, in fact, may be an alarm bell for reliability, but realistically in Maranello know that they can not rely on this assumption in the next six Grands Prix. Technically speaking, the race in Singapore has ruled the GAME OVER. "
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Thanks for posting that Opti. I can't disagree with him either, I am definitely off the Merc bandwagon now.
While RBR looked great at Spa & Monza, I still thought they had just found the 'sweet spot' for low downforce tracks and Merc would be back on the pace with them back on on high downforce but RBR - or should I say Vettel, is what ahead right now.
Don't forget, MotoGP this weekend too mate.
btw, wish we had some Indycar. These big breaks between races kill the championship!Comment -
Exactly the same, surprised Vettel was still so far ahead. And think there's no chance of anyone catching up this year after whatever they managed to improve this time.
I think this line is what prompted me to actually repost that though. " For Ferrari, still mathematically in the title fight, it remains a moral obligation not to give up, to seize the opportunity in the event of defaillance opponent."
I like the way Italians think about F1.
Re MotoGP... I haven't thought about it yet, but after last race was thinking I would just stick with Lorenzo for next couple of events.
got any sage advice about that?
I see he topped FP1.Comment -
Truck odds...
Just not sure this week. Usually feel strong about truck capping.
Trucks Smith's 350
Sat 9/28 12:00PM
Ty Dillon +525
James Buescher +550
Ryan Blaney +575
Matt Crafton +775
Timothy Peters +775
Jeb Burton +875
Field (any other driver) +1000
Johnny Sauter +1100
Brendan Gaughan +1500
Joey Coulter +1700
Miguel Paludo +2200
Darrell Wallace Jr +2200
Ross Chastain +2200
Ron Hornaday +2700
German Quiroga +3300
Chad Hackenbracht +3300.Comment -
Took some Lorenzo at $3.40 as FP2 ended with him only 4th.
Best price matched on Betfair so far..Comment -
Nice odds for Lorenzo. Just read his post FP2 comments now - he isnt very happy with the setup of the bike. I think it will still be close between the two though.
I am still not sure what/if I will take anything. I was thinking it would be a coin flip between the two and maybe better off finding a good head to head.Comment -
How was your grand final day Matt?
Back the Hawks or did you go with the sentimental hope?.Comment -
It was a big day! Went to a bbq and just enjoyed the the game. No bets and was rooting for the Dockers. Ended up missing Motogp qual completely but I saw there was chance of rain and didnt want to make any blind bets.
Hopefully find a winner for NW!Comment -
Glad I missed a quali bet too. Would have had to take Lorenzo based on the odds.
Had a great day up here too. Not GF related but just good. Backed Hawks by 1-39 so happy there too.
I went for a nap about 8pm and not been back up long, ready and raring for some Nationwide. Stumped about what to bet though. Can suck it up and take the small "easy" money on Kyle, maybe with a saver on Joey, or just have a couple of small bets on long shots and enjoy the race. Even head 2 heads looked tough to find a dog with a chance yesterday. Hoping something happens in quali to shake the market up a bit..Comment -
Logano in that hot ass #22 AND winning last 3 NW races in a row from Dover tough to go against....him and Kyle have just been such easy money....
im on both, early and might add even more, or start a weekend parlay also with logano just not sure yet, or maybe kyle who knows til i see what their odds are come racetime.
UNLESS i start up a Open +odds H2H weekend parlay, thats definitely the only 2 im taking for the Win...just cant see any body else in the field with even a chance at the win barring something crazy happening or kyle AND Logano both having some kind of mechanical issue or wreckComment -
Not sure I have an option to take both not getting openers like you Mike.
I agree both Joey and those Penske rocket ships in form hard to go against, so thinking I'll probably just end up with him by default.
Be nice if they both have issues and start from the back!
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Damn, I missed the start. Fell asleep watching replay of Moto Qual.
Atleast there is trucks to come still...Comment -
did crafton look strong in sessions opti?
i know they mean more for truck series usuallyComment -
I'm just sticking with my Lorenzo +240 for MotoGP... unless you come in with a good reason for me to take Marquez as well Matt?.Comment -
nah mate, worth a go at the better odds for sure. Lorenzo is the one with nothing to lose, he will be pushing like crazy I imagine.Comment -
I am really tempted to take Marquez first lap leader @ 4.70...Comment -
Looks like the Hondas are their own worst enemies tonight.
Hate to jinx it, but think I can cash this one now.
Gee betfair is slow to move... could have liad hundreds against Pedrosa for at least a minute after he crashed if we could live bet.Comment
