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  • JBEX
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    • 01-02-12
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    #1
    you paid what for that horse ??
    going to take a break from my thread after kentucky downs and for the next few days.. going to do a thread on my theme of "maidens who cost a lot for their pedigree specs".. if they warrant the price and are expensive no play (of course that's judgmental).. 1st or 2nd starts but if first start is a really good effort will pass as it's too obvious.. these horses could cost as little as $30k (most likely spotted in maiden claimers) or the sky's the limit.. cover all tracks but mostly the better ones.. a large majority of these will be gray area decisions but that's handicapping.. will not tally but final odds and results will be posted..btw big bombs will have a small chance of winning like any longshot.. over time hopefully get some good efforts from them... could be good candidates to key underneath in triples but not going to suggest doing that when I post them.. no explanations will be given


    off tracks are plays.. surface change no play
    Last edited by JBEX; 09-02-19, 11:00 AM.
  • JBEX
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    • 01-02-12
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    #2
    saratoga


    R6 #1 maximilliano (3-1) 2nd @ 7-2




    del mar

    R6 #3 applecross (10-1) ** 3rd @ 7-1
    R7 #1 https://youtu.be/2XeSQVWleqY (2-1) this won't help my chances lol winner @ 8-5



    ** this is a 2yo stakes and horse making his 3rd start
    Last edited by JBEX; 09-03-19, 04:01 PM.
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    • JBEX
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      #3
      added 2 more
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      • Louisvillekid1
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        • 10-17-07
        • 52143

        #4
        quite a few of these thursday in race 7 @ Kentucky downs
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        • JBEX
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          • 01-02-12
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          #5
          Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
          quite a few of these thursday in race 7 @ Kentucky downs

          yeah not surprised.. but they have to be relative to the specs.. will look on weds
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          • JBEX
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            • 01-02-12
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            #6
            delaware

            R5 #2 house arrest (2-1) 2nd via dq @ 3-2
            borderline call



            indiana grand


            R5 #8 chipofftheoldblock (6-1) 2nd @ 10-1

            not a system play..a 2yo fts homebred with a pedigree I like
            Last edited by JBEX; 09-05-19, 06:19 PM.
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            • JBEX
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              #7
              added one
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              • JBEX
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                #8
                Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                quite a few of these thursday in race 7 @ Kentucky downs

                correct..

                #2 (12-1) is borderline
                #14 (9-2) also eligible
                #15 (12-1)also eligible

                14 is the best.. have to see if she draws in
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                • JBEX
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                  • 01-02-12
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                  #9
                  kentucky downs


                  R7 #2 cairo express (12-1) borderline

                  4th @ about 12-1

                  as mentioned below a good effort
                  Last edited by JBEX; 09-05-19, 06:20 PM.
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                  • Louisvillekid1
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                    • 10-17-07
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                    #10
                    You'll really going to like the 5th race on Saturday @ Belmont.
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                    • JBEX
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                      • 01-02-12
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                      You'll really going to like the 5th race on Saturday @ Belmont.

                      looks like a good one.. think I'm going to be liberal with my standards for a play without bending the truth too much..otherwise going to be a quiet thread.. take a look at the pp's tomorrow


                      thought cairo prince ran decent today.. got bottled up in the stretch too much
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                      • JBEX
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                        • 01-02-12
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                        #12
                        going to just edit in the results along the way
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                        • JBEX
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                          #13
                          belmont


                          R4 #9 nettleton (3-1)

                          R8 #2 mazal eighteen (4-1) off turf

                          R2 #6 tales Iwinit (5-1)
                          Last edited by JBEX; 09-06-19, 05:24 PM.
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                          • JBEX
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                            #14
                            added another
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                            • JBEX
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                              #15
                              added another
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                              • JBEX
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                                #16
                                belmont

                                R6 #3 unprecedented (6-1)
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                                • JBEX
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                                  • 01-02-12
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by JBEX
                                  belmont

                                  R6 #3 unprecedented (6-1)


                                  apologize for getting the race # wrong.. finished 3rd @ 9-1
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                                  • JBEX
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                                    • 01-02-12
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                                    #18
                                    belmont


                                    R8 #2 tatterazi (15-1)
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                                    • littlekona
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                                      • 11-19-15
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                                      #19
                                      what's cheapest claiming race ever..I have seen 2500 claimers maybe 2000 too at AZ and Wash tracks...

                                      rule ive heard at OTB never bet any horse cheaper then your car LOL
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                                      • JBEX
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by littlekona
                                        what's cheapest claiming race ever..I have seen 2500 claimers maybe 2000 too at AZ and Wash tracks...

                                        rule ive heard at OTB never bet any horse cheaper then your car LOL

                                        think I've seen 1500 at some small fair tracks but wouldn't swear to it.. not a time issue.. within last 5 years
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                                        • JBEX
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                                          #21
                                          not really what this thread's about but they just sold a filly at the keeneland 2yo sales for a record $8.2M

                                          by american pharoah and a half to beholder, mendelsohn and into mischieff (wow!).. trainer will be (surprise, surprise) baffert
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                                          • littlekona
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by JBEX
                                            not really what this thread's about but they just sold a filly at the keeneland 2yo sales for a record $8.2M

                                            by american pharoah and a half to beholder, mendelsohn and into mischieff (wow!).. trainer will be (surprise, surprise) baffert
                                            what was that one horse green monkey ?? Sold for huge and was total busto
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                                            • JBEX
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by littlekona
                                              what was that one horse green monkey ?? Sold for huge and was total busto

                                              yeah $16 million and a bust.. believe he was a cheap stallion for a while also.. but I believe he was a modest pedigree and freaky specimen type (not positive but could look).. this one royally bred
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                                              • JBEX
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                                                #24
                                                The Green Monkey, who'll forever be etched in Thoroughbred history books as a result of his world-record $16 million price tag as a 2-year-old, was euthanized at Hartley/DeRenzo Thoroughbreds in May due to the effects of laminitis.




                                                modest pedigree
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                                                • JBEX
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                                                  #25
                                                  top 4 @ kee 2yo sale today

                                                  $8.2M by american pharoah
                                                  $2.1M by pioneer of the nile (daddy of american pharoah)
                                                  $2.0 M by empire maker (daddy of pioneer of the nile)
                                                  $1.3M by american pharoah


                                                  remember how highly touted empire maker was.. homebred by unbridled out of a world class female family.. broke his maiden first out at belmont or aqueduct in a mile race big field.. they named him right
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                                                  • littlekona
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by JBEX
                                                    yeah $16 million and a bust.. believe he was a cheap stallion for a while also.. but I believe he was a modest pedigree and freaky specimen type (not positive but could look).. this one royally bred
                                                    biggest busts come from the 2 year old in training sales...Trainers can really get them to breeze like freaks then when race day comes old morning glory story
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                                                    • JBEX
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                                                      #27
                                                      if you looked at the sire (forestry)and the dam (won $45k)
                                                      an expensive horse from this combo be about $100k..possible the dam produced another good one but forestry an inexpensive sire...he had a sub 10 sec eighth work at the sale I believe
                                                      and obviously must have looked like something special
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                                                      • JBEX
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                                                        #28
                                                        kentucky downs


                                                        R5 #11 crazy woods (6-1)
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                                                        • JBEX
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                                                          #29
                                                          belmont

                                                          R2 #4 mazal eighteen (8-1)
                                                          R4 #4 desbordes (8-1)
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                                                          • Louisvillekid1
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                                                            • 10-17-07
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                                                            #30
                                                            Desbordes is pick if day
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                                                            • JBEX
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                              Desbordes is pick if day

                                                              from the outside post that's a perfect "get a little experience without showing too much" effort .. definitely on the expensive side (not outrageous) for the specs.. johnny v jumps aboard
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                                                              • JBEX
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                                                                #32
                                                                belmont


                                                                R4 #1 graphite dutchess (12-1)


                                                                churchill

                                                                R3 #2 indian cross (4-1).. 5 mtp
                                                                R4 #8 substantial (8-1)
                                                                R5 #7 in the deep (3-1)


                                                                cluster of them cd 3 close to post




                                                                R11 #8 sounion (6-1)
                                                                Last edited by JBEX; 09-14-19, 02:44 PM.
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                                                                • JBEX
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                                                                  #33
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                                                                  • JBEX
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    added cd 11
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                                                                    • JBEX
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      belmont


                                                                      R5 #3 one mississippi (6-1)


                                                                      churchill


                                                                      R6 #5 pappascat (10-1)
                                                                      Last edited by JBEX; 09-19-19, 01:29 PM.
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