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	Easy-Rider 66BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#4726Shut outComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
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#4727risked $308/returned $281.60Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
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#472870 horses playedOriginally posted by Easy-Rider 66risked $308/returned $281.60Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
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#4729gulfstream
R1 #3 powerline (20-1) 1WP
R3 #3 false accusation (15-1) 1WP
R5 #7 four knights (12-1) 2WP
R10 #4 mister sense (6-1) 3W.. #5 gran red (10-1) 3W
tampa bay.. 2WP default
R5 #5 olivander (4-1) 3WPComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	Easy-Rider 66BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#4730A conservative move here JBEX. Close to the vest. Wish I had more discipline on action bets myself. GL today. Not saying yours are action wagers, but at GP default $4 w/p so you are taking a small shot.Originally posted by JBEXgulfstream
R1 #3 powerline (20-1) 1WP
R3 #3 false accusation (15-1) 1WP
R5 #7 four knights (12-1) 2WP
R10 #4 mister sense (6-1) 3W.. #5 gran red (10-1) 3WComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
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#4731you can't have imo half the money you'd have on a 3 or 4-1 on a 20-1..of course that's the ml and who knows what they'll go off at.. did go 2WP on the12-1 in R5.. either 1 or 2 WP on these types and an occasional 3 but almost never 4 for meOriginally posted by Easy-Rider 66A conservative move here JBEX. Close to the vest. Wish I had more discipline on action bets myself. GL today. Not saying yours are action wagers, but at GP default $4 w/p so you are taking a small shot.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
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#4732added tampa 5Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	Easy-Rider 66BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#4733Get your drift. I guess it also depends on how strongly you feel about that 20/1 ML. Sometimes you may need to pound so to speak if you really feel the line maker is off. Or if playing real time the public is off.Originally posted by JBEXyou can't have imo half the money you'd have on a 3 or 4-1 on a 20-1..of course that's the ml and who knows what they'll go off at.. did go 2WP on the12-1 in R5.. either 1 or 2 WP on these types and an occasional 3 but almost never 4 for meComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
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#4734say you have a 10% edge on a 3-1 vs a 20% edge on a 15-1Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66Get your drift. I guess it also depends on how strongly you feel about that 20/1 ML. Sometimes you may need to pound so to speak if you really feel the line maker is off. Or if playing real time the public is off.
..reality most of us have no edge (including me) but have to think positive or why bother..it's more realistic to have a bigger edge at larger odds or you're playing to close to the vest..kind of tight if you only have a 10% edge on higher odds horses ..so using that
10%/3 (odds) = 3.3% bankroll
20%/15 = 1.33% bankroll
this is kelly formula for % bet
% bet = edge (roi)/odds
the logic behind betting more on low odds horsesComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	Easy-Rider 66BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#4735GP R3: 3 False Accusation down to 5/1. Not sure why? Other than the drop of 2 levels. GL.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
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#4736Ran a good race 3rdOriginally posted by Easy-Rider 66GP R3: 3 False Accusation down to 5/1. Not sure why? Other than the drop of 2 levels. GL.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
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#4737I'm out running around now..Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66GP R3: 3 False Accusation down to 5/1. Not sure why? Other than the drop of 2 levels. GL.
last..wide post higher level. .
two back..much tougher condition
3 back..win this level off the turf..
4 back. . front end very fast pace..
5-10 back..competetive races at around this level including mdn claimers for a higher tag which is typical
for when they end up running in n2LComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	Easy-Rider 66BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#4738OK thx for rundown. Did not like his last race(at higher level) but ran well today.Originally posted by JBEXI'm out running around now..
last..wide post higher level. .
two back..much tougher condition
3 back..win this level off the turf..
4 back. . front end very fast pace..
5-10 back..competetive races at around this level including mdn claimers for a higher tag which is typical
for when they end up running in n2LComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
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#4739saw the race so this is hindsight..but the last race was at least a level ,probaby 2 higher than today..the race was (+15/+9)on avg 6 lengths faster than pars for a clm 35KB race and today going for clm16kbOriginally posted by Easy-Rider 66OK thx for rundown. Did not like his last race(at higher level) but ran well today.
so that's a significant effort being relatively close to the front there..on other side trainer 1/48 in turf races past 3 years and 2/37 overall this year lolComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
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#4740GP R5: winner Pays $48.60Originally posted by JBEXgulfstream
R1 #3 powerline (20-1) 1WP
R3 #3 false accusation (15-1) 1WP
R5 #7 four knights (12-1) 2WP
R10 #4 mister sense (6-1) 3W.. #5 gran red (10-1) 3W
tampa bay.. 2WP default
R5 #5 olivander (4-1) 3WP
GPR10: 4 scored Pays $33.90
TB R5: placed Pays $7.80Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	Easy-Rider 66BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#4741risked $328/returned $371.90Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
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#4742Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66risked $328/returned $371.90
76 horses playedComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
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#4743aqueduct
R2 #7 iona mobe (8-5) 6W
R4 #5 ro bear (7-2) 3WP
R5 #5 southern phantom (12-1) 3W.. #8 classic romeo (15-1) 3W
R7 #4 big thicket (4-1)
love the 1 turn mile experience he's had here and same jock who rode him for 2 wins (winter/spring)
rides again today (alvarado).. he's probably the best rider up north now that the others are down in florida...linda rice excellent off a long layoff and possible she decided to wait for the winter meet to get through these conditions as the competition a lot softer
R8 #4 d'ambrosio (5-2)
same connections as above .. claimed last out from pletcher for $16k and tries $25kn2l today.. rice has outrageous numbers in many categories including 1st off the claim and beaten favorite
gulfstream
R2 #6 rethinkme (15-1)2WP
R5 #2 miss accuse (9-2) 4W #9 iridescent morn (4-1) 4 WComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
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#4744finished aqueductComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
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#4745added gulf 2 5Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	Easy-Rider 66BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#4746Hey JBEX: since you have started well maybe continue this tracking segment to start of SARATOGA. Willing to grade until then. I understand you are a long term results guy, and this would give a better idea on how you perform for thousands risked. Think it over. Give you a chance to add Keeneland and Belmont to the mix. Then maybe SAR/DMR we can do a contest.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
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#4747not sure I want to do that..think eventually might not want to bother rating picks as it's just another thing to think about..the larger the sample the better but still feel at high avg odds you need a lot of races to have a high confidence level (what it's called)..if I had more specific numbers on that would help with the decision..let's see what happens a little further down the roadOriginally posted by Easy-Rider 66Hey JBEX: since you have started well maybe continue this tracking segment to start of SARATOGA. Willing to grade until then. I understand you are a long term results guy, and this would give a better idea on how you perform for thousands risked. Think it over. Give you a chance to add Keeneland and Belmont to the mix. Then maybe SAR/DMR we can do a contest.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	Easy-Rider 66BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#4748ok sounds goodOriginally posted by JBEXnot sure I want to do that..think eventually might not want to bother rating picks as it's just another thing to think about..the larger the sample the better but still feel at high avg odds you need a lot of races to have a high confidence level (what it's called)..if I had more specific numbers on that would help with the decision..let's see what happens a little further down the roadComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	Easy-Rider 66BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#4749GP R5: #2 winner Pays $8.40Originally posted by JBEXaqueduct
R2 #7 iona mobe (8-5) 6W
R4 #5 ro bear (7-2) 3WP
R5 #5 southern phantom (12-1) 3W.. #8 classic romeo (15-1) 3W
R7 #4 big thicket (4-1)
love the 1 turn mile experience he's had here and same jock who rode him for 2 wins (winter/spring)
rides again today (alvarado).. he's probably the best rider up north now that the others are down in florida...linda rice excellent off a long layoff and possible she decided to wait for the winter meet to get through these conditions as the competition a lot softer
R8 #4 d'ambrosio (5-2)
same connections as above .. claimed last out from pletcher for $16k and tries $25kn2l today.. rice has outrageous numbers in many categories including 1st off the claim and beaten favorite
gulfstream
R2 #6 rethinkme (15-1)2WP
R5 #2 miss accuse (9-2) 4W #9 iridescent morn (4-1) 4 W
AQ R5: 8 scratchedComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	Easy-Rider 66BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#4750risked $371/returned $380.30Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
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#475184 horses playedOriginally posted by Easy-Rider 66risked $371/returned $380.30Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
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#4752probably not many today with tampa closed,aqueduct sloppy and gulf off the turf.. may peak at fairgrounds but not gonna force itComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
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#4753gulfstream
R1 #2 the kyd in syd (6-1)Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
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#4754Laurel HawthorneComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
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#47553rdOriginally posted by JBEXgulfstream
R1 #2 the kyd in syd (6-1)Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
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#4756risked $379/returned $380.30Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
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#4757gulfstream
R2 #3 bluegrass parkway (10-1) 3W .. #7 dull knife (3-1) 3W
probably it todayComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	Easy-Rider 66BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#4758No diceOriginally posted by JBEXgulfstream
R2 #3 bluegrass parkway (10-1) 3W .. #7 dull knife (3-1) 3W
probably it todayComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
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#4759risked $385/returned $380.30Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
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#476087 horses playedOriginally posted by Easy-Rider 66risked $385/returned $380.30Comment 
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