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    Sumlin is done. Nice playcalling up 44-10 late in the 3rd

    Late in the third and all through the 4th A&M was still going up tempo and throwing the ball around with a backup freshman QB that couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.


    They build a huge lead running the ball and abandoned it in the 4th allowing UCLA to make one of the biggest comebacks ever. LMAO.

    He is done.

    UCLA still hasn't stopped the A&M run. Awesome adjustment by Sumlin going away from it.

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    Every season he starts hot and then they choke. Looks like Sumlin wants out fast.

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    If all you do is run the ball 3 times and punt, you win that game 100% of the time. Idiots was snapping the ball with 15 seconds on the clock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    If all you do is run the ball 3 times and punt, you win that game 100% of the time. Idiots was snapping the ball with 15 seconds on the clock.
    Yeah and they were dropping back to pass and either stopping the clock or getting sacked to get them behind the chains.

    Don't forget they were like at the 15 yard line late in the game and instead of running and kicking a FG...they drop back to pass, get sacked, take a 12 yard loss, and then proceed to miss the FG short.

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    Sumlin doesnt call plays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    Sumlin doesnt call plays.
    So what. He is the head coach.

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    Chavis has let teams come back time and time again as well. He is awful and should never coach an elite team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    Chavis has let teams come back time and time again as well. He is awful and should never coach an elite team.

    It's funny that at one time he was considered one of the best defensive coordinators in CFB.

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    I noticed that all day with these up tempo offenses. There is a point and time to slow the game down when you are leading by a sizeable amount. Mid 3rd quarter and on. It is like all basic football strategy goes out the window. Other than A&M I saw:
    Notre Dame. They kept Temple alive a lot longer than necessary by snapping the ball quickly and throwing the ball when they were running the ball at will. Same thing goes for Penn State. Now if they were playing actual football teams they could have got into trouble. It will bite them in the butt one day.

    Now take Bama. They go no huddle but slowed down later in the game. The QB just stood there and waited to snap the ball when the clock ran down. That's because they have an actual football coach.

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    Atlanta Falcons did the same thing and cost themselves a superbowl, much more painful than a college game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    Sumlin doesnt call plays.
    He dictates to the coach what he wants to do. If a coach is losing a game the head coach has to tell them what he wants. The head coach is responsible. Do you think Saban or Bellichek would allow that play calling??? Would they have allowed Shanahan to blow the SB last year?? How bout Seattle vs NE at the 1 yd line?? Those plays would have never seen the light of day because they don't care if they hurt a coach's feelings. The team comes first. These coaches get to be such babies that they are afraid to overrule someone. The great coaches don't care.

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    It's amazing to me how how many coaches in all sports (but it is most evident in football) don't know basic statistical math and how it pertains to their game. With all the money these teams spend on trainers, analysts, specialists, uniform varieties, etc..., you'd think they would at least use one of their math professors to come up with mathematically sound game theory for the coaches to implement when it's applicable. While no theory would guarantee you a win or work every single time, the fact that there are theories that will ALWAYS give you a much better statistical probability of winning then any other sequences in certain situations should ALWAYS be implemented. One of the shining examples is when you are down exactly 14 points and score a TD with 5:00 or less in a game. You should ALWAYS go for a 2 point conversion, as it will ALWAYS give you a CLEARLY better chance to win the game. Yet, coaches never do it, because they never were taught the basic premise of why it will give you a better chance to win, and they're too set in their ways to think some 120 lb. statistics expert that never played football in his life can come up with something that will work much better than the lifetime jock can.

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    It is time for Sumlin to join his buddy Charlie Strong in the ranks of the AAC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indio View Post
    It's amazing to me how how many coaches in all sports (but it is most evident in football) don't know basic statistical math and how it pertains to their game. With all the money these teams spend on trainers, analysts, specialists, uniform varieties, etc..., you'd think they would at least use one of their math professors to come up with mathematically sound game theory for the coaches to implement when it's applicable. While no theory would guarantee you a win or work every single time, the fact that there are theories that will ALWAYS give you a much better statistical probability of winning then any other sequences in certain situations should ALWAYS be implemented. One of the shining examples is when you are down exactly 14 points and score a TD with 5:00 or less in a game. You should ALWAYS go for a 2 point conversion, as it will ALWAYS give you a CLEARLY better chance to win the game. Yet, coaches never do it, because they never were taught the basic premise of why it will give you a better chance to win, and they're too set in their ways to think some 120 lb. statistics expert that never played football in his life can come up with something that will work much better than the lifetime jock can.
    I'm not doubting your theory, but please explain why you would go for 2 everytime in that situation

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    Quote Originally Posted by indio View Post
    One of the shining examples is when you are down exactly 14 points and score a TD with 5:00 or less in a game. You should ALWAYS go for a 2 point conversion, as it will ALWAYS give you a CLEARLY better chance to win the game.
    Ha ha, I figured that out when I was eight years old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maggiethebestdog View Post
    He dictates to the coach what he wants to do. If a coach is losing a game the head coach has to tell them what he wants. The head coach is responsible. Do you think Saban or Bellichek would allow that play calling??? Would they have allowed Shanahan to blow the SB last year?? How bout Seattle vs NE at the 1 yd line?? Those plays would have never seen the light of day because they don't care if they hurt a coach's feelings. The team comes first. These coaches get to be such babies that they are afraid to overrule someone. The great coaches don't care.
    You dont know what youre talking about. Suggestions, formations, some more of this, some more of that of course. Calling plays every down, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDofBA View Post
    So what. He is the head coach.
    Exactly, just a manager.

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