UFC 152: Jones vs Belfort

**ShotgunRua** · 09-12-12, 05:54 AM

How did I miss that!! Cheers vaughany.

**Beelzebubzy** · 09-12-12, 08:54 AM

To be honest, I have a boatload more strikes available to me and I think Stann’s chin is a lot more suspect than mine.

First a top contender Alan Belcher announces he's hurt, again, after only two fights back from his last serious injury. I don’t know him at all. All I know is he’s been calling me out forever and has the worst tattoo this side of that fat pervert in “the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.” But Belcher is a great fighter in the division and it sucks he’s hurt again. The poor guy spends more time in bandages than King Tut – and that’s bad news for the division

**Grabaka** · 09-12-12, 07:17 PM

Some early plays...

$137.84 on Rousey ITD + Benavidez @ -138
$115.22 on Jones vs Belfort ITD + Miocic ITD @ -115
$100.83 on Bellew + Glazkov + Rubio + Benavidez @ -101
$100.00 on Ward + Not Rousey Dec + Not Hendo Dec + Miocic + Benavidez @ +191
$50.00 on Rousey ITD + Benavidez + Martinez @ +155
$50.00 on Benavidez + Silva vs Browne ITD + Ellenberger ITD @ +630
$50.00 on Miocic + Bisping + Ellenberger ITD @ +838
$13.49 on Bellew + WardITD + JonesITD + BispigDec + MiocicStruve ITD + SilvaBrowne ITD @ +3,057
$10.00 on Ward KO + Jones ITD + Miocioc @ +1,207
$10.00 on Ward KO + Bisping @ +1,047
$10.00 on Ward ITD + Benavidez ITD @ +2,702
$10.00 on Dawson Ward ITD + Bisping + Jones ITD @ +742
$10.00 on Jones ITD + Benavidez + Miocic vs Struve ITD + Silva vs Browne ITD @ +705
$10.00 on Jones ITD + Not Stann Dec + Miocic vs Struve ITD + Silva vs Browne ITD @ +118

**Thor4140** · 09-17-12, 07:02 PM

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**ShotgunRua** · 09-18-12, 07:56 AM

I know a few in here have gone pretty big on benavidez, I'm really counting on him for a few parlays. Anyone concerned about mm stealing a decision?

**Vaughany** · 09-18-12, 10:54 AM

**Rubber Guard** · 09-18-12, 10:57 AM

Was hoping Oliveira would open at a better price. Cub is on a 2 fight win streak and has some name value. -265 is not a good price, even though I think Oliveira is a star in the making.

Hamill fight who knows...don't see how anyone can bet that fight.

I think all the odds are pretty tight.

**Vaughany** · 09-18-12, 11:05 AM

Yeah, underdogs or no play for me on those 2

**Grabaka** · 09-18-12, 12:00 PM

I think i like Swanson at those odds.

**Beelzebubzy** · 09-18-12, 01:11 PM

"I was thinking about it; if I win this fight, how am I ever going to top that?" Bonnar said. "It's been hard enough trying to top the (first) Forrest fight all these years. Then if I freaking beat Anderson Silva, talk about a perfect storybook ending to a career."

Not so fast, though.

"Then on the other side, if I beat Anderson Silva, then voila – I could probably get that coaching gig with Forrest, I could probably get a new contract and get paid a lot of money to fight," he said. "It's an interesting dilemma, but one that I'm pretty thankful to be close to having – or just have the opportunity to have."

**DirtyX** · 09-18-12, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by ShotgunRua

I know a few in here have gone pretty big on benavidez, I'm really counting on him for a few parlays. Anyone concerned about mm stealing a decision?

Welcome to the forum Shotgun... I think Benavidez is a solid bet straight up at anything -300 or better. I don't have the ability to bet parlays or props, so I don't have that option. GL.

**brokenbrain** · 09-18-12, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

T.J Grant looks good at +212. Evan Dunham is more Hype than Hurt (re-watch the Shamar Bailey fight...ED couldn't finish SB in the last round) and TJ's Jits is stellar. I'm liking both TJ and C. Oliveria.

**bjpenn85** · 09-18-12, 02:49 PM

Evan dunham fought at 80% while, shamar baley fought his best fight of his life. Dunham had to play it safe, as we had lost two fight in a row. when loosing youre job is one fight away, very few fighters go out guns blazing.

His next fight, he finished nik lentz, which is a much better opponent that Shamar B., right?

**Vaughany** · 09-18-12, 03:46 PM

yeah his performance against Lentz showed he is still legit. I think I might wait for props and play fight goes distance or Grant by decision

**Vitooch** · 09-18-12, 04:14 PM

How's everybody doing...got a little on Benavidez ITD at +317 and Stann ITD at +260 being my favorite play on the card. Been eyeing that play since the fight was announced. Bisping tends to fight tentatively against heavy handed strikers. I could see him treading in a bit too cautiously and getting caught and finished like he almost did against Wanderlei.

**PunisherIND** · 09-18-12, 04:42 PM

bovada has some interesting props for this card. never seen these before

UFC 152 - Total Fights that go to Decision on UFC 152 PPV Card?
Jon Jones, Vitor Belfort, Joseph Benavidez, Demetrious Johnson, Michael Bisping, Brian Stann, Matt Hamill, Roger Hollett, Cub Swanson,Charles Oliveira all must foght on the PPV Card for Action.

8:00p	Over 2.5	+130
Under 2.5	-160

UFC 152 - How Many Knockouts or Technical Knockouts on UFC 152 PPV Card?

Jon Jones, Vitor Belfort, Joseph Benavidez, Demetrious Johnson, Michael Bisping, Brian Stann, Matt Hamill, Roger Hollett, Cub Swanson,Charles Oliveira all must foght on the PPV Card for Action.

8:00p	Over 1.5	-160
Under 1.5	+130

UFC 152 - How Many Submission finishes on UFC 152 PPV Card?

Jon Jones, Vitor Belfort, Joseph Benavidez, Demetrious Johnson, Michael Bisping, Brian Stann, Matt Hamill, Roger Hollett, Cub Swanson,Charles Oliveira all must foght on the PPV Card for Action.

8:00p	Over 1.5	+140
Under 1.5	-170

UFC 152 - Will Any Fight end in a Draw, Disqualification or No Contest?

All Fights on Card (Main Card and Preliminary Card)

8:00p	Yes	+450
No	-650

**NunyaBidness** · 09-18-12, 05:12 PM

Lines look fairly well set to me there, a surprise for bodog. Rather see it for the entire card.

**NunyaBidness** · 09-18-12, 05:15 PM

Lol, $10 limits there for me now.

**Vaughany** · 09-18-12, 05:22 PM

ha Big time!

**THE_LOCKSMITH** · 09-18-12, 05:24 PM

when looking at these guys it seemed that Grant was the older fighter, was suprised to see Dunham was born in 1981 and Grant in 1984, guess that beard makes him look way older

**Vaughany** · 09-18-12, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH

when looking at these guys it seemed that Grant was the older fighter, was suprised to see Dunham was born in 1981 and Grant in 1984, guess that beard makes him look way older

Shiit yeah! Grant looks like he's in his mid 30's! Similar to Jim Miller

**bjpenn85** · 09-18-12, 05:28 PM

yeah me 2. i thought grant were like 34-35.

**Rubber Guard** · 09-18-12, 08:28 PM

Originally posted by brokenbrain

T.J Grant looks good at +212. Evan Dunham is more Hype than Hurt (re-watch the Shamar Bailey fight...ED couldn't finish SB in the last round) and TJ's Jits is stellar. I'm liking both TJ and C. Oliveria.

Yea, Grant has a solid number behind him. He is a very solid fighter. But I believe Dunham is pretty legit. His only real loss is to Guillard, a fight where Guillard was actually all together in the head. Dunham has very solid wrestling and good level BJJ himself. He has enough skills to avoid getting sub'd.

**illmatick** · 09-19-12, 08:06 AM

looking at a 7 cent margin on these openers

chemically diffused delirium, that's that shiit we do like

**illmatick** · 09-19-12, 10:41 AM

Looks like we were all hoping to get the Gazelle at -190.

35 more cents until Gagnon gets choked out

**Beelzebubzy** · 09-19-12, 10:54 AM

Like brenneman

**Vaughany** · 09-19-12, 10:57 AM

Magalhaes will get action at +150

**Beelzebubzy** · 09-19-12, 11:07 AM

Yeah played gazelle Vinny and brenneman. Nike doesn't have the Ko power of silva Hendricks or rumble

**Crassus** · 09-19-12, 11:10 AM

Magalhaes aint a bad bet...

**gabe** · 09-19-12, 11:16 AM

Jim Hettes -425 vs Marcus Brimage? Jesus Christ... I long for the days he was a huge underdog.

**Vitooch** · 09-19-12, 11:35 AM

Played mal ga yays at +160 and Watson at -190 in a parlay with Eagles

**Vaughany** · 09-19-12, 11:37 AM

hmm Pierson getting action on Sportbet. Interesting

**Grabaka** · 09-19-12, 07:59 PM

Straight Plays:
$290.00 on Seth Baczynski @ -145
$250.00 on Cub Swanson @ +205
$228.60 on Waleil Watson @ -175
$200.00 on TJ Grant @ +200
$200.00 on Vinny Magalhaes @ +160
$100.00 on Roger Hollett @ +285

**Rubber Guard** · 09-19-12, 09:36 PM

I don't know what to make of Vinny. On one hand I would never bet the guy he was a big baby and totally one-dimensional last we saw him in the UFC. Since then he has been tearing up grappling competitions, training guys, and winning irrelevant fights. Igor while not great, has a pretty well-rounded game. Can Vinny get him down? Can Vinny throw a flying kimura at him ?

On the other side why would they bring Vinny back if they believed he was still totally one-dimensional? You figure since he is back they might as well promote a BJJ Ace. UFC must believe this is a good matchup for him.

Oliveria odds are moving it looks like.

**hitthew8room** · 09-19-12, 11:18 PM

best bet might be to parlay benevidez and bisping to win, getting pretty much even money. dont think demetrius has much of a chance, hes smaller and weaker in every fighting category except for maybeeee speed and even that is probly even. stann has to knock out bisping early in the fight or he's in big trouble. bisping will take stann down easily and i expect it to look like when chael took stann down in their fight.