There is no way Diaz doesn't outbox Henderson, I think the only chance Henderson has is playing a points game for 5 rounds using distance striking and maneuvering around a boxing match then scoring random takedowns when diaz gets frustrated. But in a 5 round fight I think Diaz pulls something off.
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bjpenn85
SBR Hall of Famer
02-17-11
5059
#248
yep.
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Fragoel2
SBR High Roller
09-08-12
107
#249
Originally posted by Imsmarterthanu
I lean towards Diaz
There is no way Diaz doesn't outbox Henderson, I think the only chance Henderson has is playing a points game for 5 rounds using distance striking and maneuvering around a boxing match then scoring random takedowns when diaz gets frustrated. But in a 5 round fight I think Diaz pulls something off.
I see no reason why Henderson should be fighting this as a boxing match. That's the fight Diaz wants and IMHO Henderson has enough fight IQ to avoid that.
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bjpenn85
SBR Hall of Famer
02-17-11
5059
#250
easier said and done.
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bjpenn85
SBR Hall of Famer
02-17-11
5059
#251
than maybe...than
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Vaughany
SBR Aristocracy
03-07-10
45563
#252
Kalikas has released rest of odds....expect Nijem and Easton to get action
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Vaughany
SBR Aristocracy
03-07-10
45563
#253
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Beelzebubzy
SBR Hall of Famer
06-06-11
6995
#254
Originally posted by Vaughany
Kalikas has released rest of odds....expect Nijem and Easton to get action
Yeah hit both and Jeremy. Yves is chinny IMO
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PunisherIND
SBR MVP
02-24-11
4979
#255
pulling the trigger on this -- no sense playing the distance prop at the same price
Nate Diaz/Ben Henderson* Over 4½ -180
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MD
SBR Hall of Famer
01-31-12
9728
#256
John Albert has been one of my favourite fighters to bet on for quite a while, and I still don't think he's an easy fight for anyone. Scott Jorgensen is no joke, though, and I expect him to grind the shit out of Albert for three rounds. I'll contemplate the play, though.
I'm on Nijem -150, and Easton -155, Stephens -170 (bet Edwards +190 heavy earlier, so this is to arb), I'm on Swick at +150 on Paddy Power, also, but nothing huge as I can't get down much money there.
John Albert has been one of my favourite fighters to bet on for quite a while, and I still don't think he's an easy fight for anyone. Scott Jorgensen is no joke, though, and I expect him to grind the shit out of Albert for three rounds. I'll contemplate the play, though.
I'm on Nijem -150, and Easton -155, Stephens -170 (bet Edwards +190 heavy earlier, so this is to arb), I'm on Swick at +150 on Paddy Power, also, but nothing huge as I can't get down much money there.
nice job hitting those lines brotha.
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MD
SBR Hall of Famer
01-31-12
9728
#259
Originally posted by PunisherIND
nice job hitting those lines brotha.
Thanks buddeh. I was pretty happy about it, because I've been getting Jewed with UFC openers recently. They've opened while I was taking a shower twice since October, and once while I was taking a dump.
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PunisherIND
SBR MVP
02-24-11
4979
#260
Originally posted by MD
Thanks buddeh. I was pretty happy about it, because I've been getting Jewed with UFC openers recently. They've opened while I was taking a shower twice since October, and once while I was taking a dump.
hahaha, i feel you on that b/c they always seem to release lines while im commuting home. but, taking a dump is only an excuse if you dont have a laptop. i do some of my best work on the throne.
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Sacrelicious
SBR Hall of Famer
11-29-12
5984
#261
Those closing lines are kicking my ass, and hard, and they are not even closed yet.
Oh well, live and learn
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gabe
SBR Hall of Famer
09-12-11
7405
#262
Originally posted by MD
Thanks buddeh. I was pretty happy about it, because I've been getting Jewed with UFC openers recently. They've opened while I was taking a shower twice since October, and once while I was taking a dump.
I never take a dump without my iphone or laptop lol
I would say over 50% of my posts on here are from the john lol
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NunyaBidness
SBR Hall of Famer
07-26-09
9345
#263
Originally posted by gabe
I never take a dump without my iphone or laptop lol
I would say over 50% of my posts on here are from the john lol
Dear god you take a lot of shits. You should probably see a gastroenterologist.
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gabe
SBR Hall of Famer
09-12-11
7405
#264
Originally posted by NunyaBidness
Dear god you take a lot of shits. You should probably see a gastroenterologist.
I think I really should.
I also spit out a lot of phlegm and blow my nose a lot throughout the day. It started happening since the 2nd semester of my senior year in high school. Before that, I would get a runny nose in the winter one week out of the year, since then, it's been every single day. I saw an ear, nose, and throat doctor about it, he looked and didn't see anything, and told me it was all in my head. WTF? How does my throat get filled with phlegm and my nose fill up constantly, if it's all in my head? I don't know who to go see about this shit, just been dealing with it.
I also spit out a lot of phlegm and blow my nose a lot throughout the day. It started happening since the 2nd semester of my senior year in high school. Before that, I would get a runny nose in the winter one week out of the year, since then, it's been every single day. I saw an ear, nose, and throat doctor about it, he looked and didn't see anything, and told me it was all in my head. WTF? How does my throat get filled with phlegm and my nose fill up constantly, if it's all in my head? I don't know who to go see about this shit, just been dealing with it.
That could be the weed on a cronic user.
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Mercersux
SBR MVP
05-03-12
1516
#266
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Sacrelicious
SBR Hall of Famer
11-29-12
5984
#267
LOL @ NewYorkRic.
On Gustafsson KO'g Shogun: "It wont be late...but it will be in the middle rounds"
Is that record actually legitimate? I have my doubts, his last few segments were disasters.
Liking Diaz - not enough to go crazy w/ the betting.
The Henderson sub defense seems like it's getting blown out of proportion. The real takeaway from his first fight vs Cerrone is that he put himself in compromising positions w/ frequency. Nate's jitz is arguably some of the most fundamentally sound at 155. Outside of his standing kimura BS (which are usually to set up trips/tosses), people dont escape his subs. He never really 'fishes' for submissions like some BJJ players but he takes what presented and his finishing rate is impeccable. If Henderson fights like he did vs Cerrone the first time, Nate's taking an arm along w/ the belt. Henderson has gotten out of dicey situations but it's mostly b/c he put himself there in the first place.
Not saying this is Nate by submission all day, but to dismiss that outcome based on Henderson's defensive grappling prowess and unwillingness to tap is flat out dumb.
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Thor4140
SBR Posting Legend
02-09-08
22296
#269
Finally got my bet in on Swick before you guys talked the line up to -300
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gabe
SBR Hall of Famer
09-12-11
7405
#270
Bendo is like Ebersole, they can't be choked out.
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gabe
SBR Hall of Famer
09-12-11
7405
#271
Originally posted by Thor4140
Finally got my bet in on Swick before you guys talked the line up to -300
-300? lol wtf where
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MMAbetMASTA
SBR MVP
05-24-11
1931
#272
Originally posted by PunisherIND
following suit on stephens and easton
Jeremy Stephens* -180 Mike Easton* -185
why you dig easton as a sizeable fav? I think i'm liking assuncao as a +200ish dog, like easton he's very well rounded and I think he's always been underrated, especially his striking that's developed nicely with his jitz... Both guys have great kicks so it'll be interesting...Think this fight is closer than the line reflects, curious why some people are liking easton at near -200?
Sucks he isn't fighting caraway, I would have paid some juice on easton in that one.
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MMAbetMASTA
SBR MVP
05-24-11
1931
#273
hoping these lines get up on my book soon, liking a couple other dogs and couple favs!
Side note, what odds you all think lavar would have opened at against schaub? I liked him in that if he was at decent dog odds, would have been a fun fight too sucks it got canceled.
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MD
SBR Hall of Famer
01-31-12
9728
#274
Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA
hoping these lines get up on my book soon, liking a couple other dogs and couple favs!
Side note, what odds you all think lavar would have opened at against schaub? I liked him in that if he was at decent dog odds, would have been a fun fight too sucks it got canceled.
I doubt Schaub would have lost that fight. To be honest, I was planning on a pretty sizeable play on Schaub by sub, which I was expecting to get at great odds, hedged with Lavar wins in round one.
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gabe
SBR Hall of Famer
09-12-11
7405
#275
Originally posted by MD
I doubt Schaub would have lost that fight. To be honest, I was planning on a pretty sizeable play on Schaub by sub, which I was expecting to get at great odds, hedged with Lavar wins in round one.
Huh? Schaub has the weakest chin amongst HW's, Lavar would have knocked him out in 15 seconds
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Vaughany
SBR Aristocracy
03-07-10
45563
#276
Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA
why you dig easton as a sizeable fav? I think i'm liking assuncao as a +200ish dog, like easton he's very well rounded and I think he's always been underrated, especially his striking that's developed nicely with his jitz... Both guys have great kicks so it'll be interesting...Think this fight is closer than the line reflects, curious why some people are liking easton at near -200?
Sucks he isn't fighting caraway, I would have paid some juice on easton in that one.
Agree, I took Easton at -160 expecting to be able to arb with Assuncao at +200 or better. I think Easton is over-rated
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gabe
SBR Hall of Famer
09-12-11
7405
#277
Assuncao isn't gonna handle the heat, so he's gonna get out of the kitchen.
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PunisherIND
SBR MVP
02-24-11
4979
#278
Originally posted by gabe
Assuncao isn't gonna handle the heat, so he's gonna get out of the kitchen.
Lol. Yea, basically how I feel, but I couldn't have said it as poetically as gabers did.
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blumpkin
SBR Sharp
06-16-11
359
#279
Any thoughts on Cruickshank/martinez? Martinez didnt look very impressive to me his last time out.
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Vaughany
SBR Aristocracy
03-07-10
45563
#280
Originally posted by blumpkin
Any thoughts on Cruickshank/martinez? Martinez didnt look very impressive to me his last time out.