UFC on FOX 5: Henderson vs. Diaz (Dec 08)

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  • BASSENCO
    SBR Hustler
    • 12-04-12
    • 50

    #246
    I picked Henderson to win.

    I picked Henderson to win.
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    • Imsmarterthanu
      SBR MVP
      • 05-02-12
      • 1878

      #247
      I lean towards Diaz

      There is no way Diaz doesn't outbox Henderson, I think the only chance Henderson has is playing a points game for 5 rounds using distance striking and maneuvering around a boxing match then scoring random takedowns when diaz gets frustrated. But in a 5 round fight I think Diaz pulls something off.
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      • bjpenn85
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        • 02-17-11
        • 5059

        #248
        yep.
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        • Fragoel2
          SBR High Roller
          • 09-08-12
          • 107

          #249
          Originally posted by Imsmarterthanu
          I lean towards Diaz

          There is no way Diaz doesn't outbox Henderson, I think the only chance Henderson has is playing a points game for 5 rounds using distance striking and maneuvering around a boxing match then scoring random takedowns when diaz gets frustrated. But in a 5 round fight I think Diaz pulls something off.
          I see no reason why Henderson should be fighting this as a boxing match. That's the fight Diaz wants and IMHO Henderson has enough fight IQ to avoid that.
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          • bjpenn85
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            • 02-17-11
            • 5059

            #250
            easier said and done.
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            • bjpenn85
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              • 02-17-11
              • 5059

              #251
              than maybe...than
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              • Vaughany
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 03-07-10
                • 45563

                #252
                Kalikas has released rest of odds....expect Nijem and Easton to get action
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                • Vaughany
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 03-07-10
                  • 45563

                  #253
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                  • Beelzebubzy
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                    • 06-06-11
                    • 6995

                    #254
                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                    Kalikas has released rest of odds....expect Nijem and Easton to get action
                    Yeah hit both and Jeremy. Yves is chinny IMO
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                    • PunisherIND
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-24-11
                      • 4979

                      #255
                      pulling the trigger on this -- no sense playing the distance prop at the same price

                      Nate Diaz/Ben Henderson* Over 4½ -180
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                      • MD
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                        • 01-31-12
                        • 9728

                        #256
                        John Albert has been one of my favourite fighters to bet on for quite a while, and I still don't think he's an easy fight for anyone. Scott Jorgensen is no joke, though, and I expect him to grind the shit out of Albert for three rounds. I'll contemplate the play, though.

                        I'm on Nijem -150, and Easton -155, Stephens -170 (bet Edwards +190 heavy earlier, so this is to arb), I'm on Swick at +150 on Paddy Power, also, but nothing huge as I can't get down much money there.
                        Last edited by MD; 12-05-12, 02:51 PM.
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                        • PunisherIND
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                          • 02-24-11
                          • 4979

                          #257
                          Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                          Yeah hit both and Jeremy. Yves is chinny IMO
                          following suit on stephens and easton

                          Jeremy Stephens* -180
                          Mike Easton* -185
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                          • PunisherIND
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-24-11
                            • 4979

                            #258
                            Originally posted by MD
                            John Albert has been one of my favourite fighters to bet on for quite a while, and I still don't think he's an easy fight for anyone. Scott Jorgensen is no joke, though, and I expect him to grind the shit out of Albert for three rounds. I'll contemplate the play, though.

                            I'm on Nijem -150, and Easton -155, Stephens -170 (bet Edwards +190 heavy earlier, so this is to arb), I'm on Swick at +150 on Paddy Power, also, but nothing huge as I can't get down much money there.
                            nice job hitting those lines brotha.
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                            • MD
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                              • 01-31-12
                              • 9728

                              #259
                              Originally posted by PunisherIND
                              nice job hitting those lines brotha.
                              Thanks buddeh. I was pretty happy about it, because I've been getting Jewed with UFC openers recently. They've opened while I was taking a shower twice since October, and once while I was taking a dump.
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                              • PunisherIND
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-24-11
                                • 4979

                                #260
                                Originally posted by MD
                                Thanks buddeh. I was pretty happy about it, because I've been getting Jewed with UFC openers recently. They've opened while I was taking a shower twice since October, and once while I was taking a dump.

                                hahaha, i feel you on that b/c they always seem to release lines while im commuting home. but, taking a dump is only an excuse if you dont have a laptop. i do some of my best work on the throne.
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                                • Sacrelicious
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                                  • 11-29-12
                                  • 5984

                                  #261
                                  Those closing lines are kicking my ass, and hard, and they are not even closed yet.

                                  Oh well, live and learn
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                                  • gabe
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                                    • 09-12-11
                                    • 7405

                                    #262
                                    Originally posted by MD
                                    Thanks buddeh. I was pretty happy about it, because I've been getting Jewed with UFC openers recently. They've opened while I was taking a shower twice since October, and once while I was taking a dump.
                                    I never take a dump without my iphone or laptop lol

                                    I would say over 50% of my posts on here are from the john lol
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                                    • NunyaBidness
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                                      • 07-26-09
                                      • 9345

                                      #263
                                      Originally posted by gabe
                                      I never take a dump without my iphone or laptop lol

                                      I would say over 50% of my posts on here are from the john lol
                                      Dear god you take a lot of shits. You should probably see a gastroenterologist.
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                                      • gabe
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                                        • 09-12-11
                                        • 7405

                                        #264
                                        Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                        Dear god you take a lot of shits. You should probably see a gastroenterologist.
                                        I think I really should.

                                        I also spit out a lot of phlegm and blow my nose a lot throughout the day. It started happening since the 2nd semester of my senior year in high school. Before that, I would get a runny nose in the winter one week out of the year, since then, it's been every single day. I saw an ear, nose, and throat doctor about it, he looked and didn't see anything, and told me it was all in my head. WTF? How does my throat get filled with phlegm and my nose fill up constantly, if it's all in my head? I don't know who to go see about this shit, just been dealing with it.
                                        Last edited by gabe; 12-05-12, 04:50 PM.
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                                        • Grabaka
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-19-11
                                          • 3216

                                          #265
                                          Originally posted by gabe
                                          I think I really should.

                                          I also spit out a lot of phlegm and blow my nose a lot throughout the day. It started happening since the 2nd semester of my senior year in high school. Before that, I would get a runny nose in the winter one week out of the year, since then, it's been every single day. I saw an ear, nose, and throat doctor about it, he looked and didn't see anything, and told me it was all in my head. WTF? How does my throat get filled with phlegm and my nose fill up constantly, if it's all in my head? I don't know who to go see about this shit, just been dealing with it.
                                          That could be the weed on a cronic user.
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                                          • Mercersux
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                                            • 05-03-12
                                            • 1516

                                            #266
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                                            • Sacrelicious
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                                              • 11-29-12
                                              • 5984

                                              #267
                                              LOL @ NewYorkRic.

                                              On Gustafsson KO'g Shogun: "It wont be late...but it will be in the middle rounds"

                                              Is that record actually legitimate? I have my doubts, his last few segments were disasters.
                                              Last edited by Sacrelicious; 12-05-12, 08:21 PM.
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                                              • eligibletackle
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 12-20-11
                                                • 149

                                                #268
                                                Liking Diaz - not enough to go crazy w/ the betting.

                                                The Henderson sub defense seems like it's getting blown out of proportion. The real takeaway from his first fight vs Cerrone is that he put himself in compromising positions w/ frequency. Nate's jitz is arguably some of the most fundamentally sound at 155. Outside of his standing kimura BS (which are usually to set up trips/tosses), people dont escape his subs. He never really 'fishes' for submissions like some BJJ players but he takes what presented and his finishing rate is impeccable. If Henderson fights like he did vs Cerrone the first time, Nate's taking an arm along w/ the belt. Henderson has gotten out of dicey situations but it's mostly b/c he put himself there in the first place.

                                                Not saying this is Nate by submission all day, but to dismiss that outcome based on Henderson's defensive grappling prowess and unwillingness to tap is flat out dumb.
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                                                • Thor4140
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 02-09-08
                                                  • 22296

                                                  #269
                                                  Finally got my bet in on Swick before you guys talked the line up to -300
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                                                  • gabe
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                                                    • 09-12-11
                                                    • 7405

                                                    #270
                                                    Bendo is like Ebersole, they can't be choked out.
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                                                    • gabe
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                                                      • 09-12-11
                                                      • 7405

                                                      #271
                                                      Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                      Finally got my bet in on Swick before you guys talked the line up to -300
                                                      -300? lol wtf where
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                                                      • MMAbetMASTA
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 05-24-11
                                                        • 1931

                                                        #272
                                                        Originally posted by PunisherIND
                                                        following suit on stephens and easton

                                                        Jeremy Stephens* -180
                                                        Mike Easton* -185
                                                        why you dig easton as a sizeable fav? I think i'm liking assuncao as a +200ish dog, like easton he's very well rounded and I think he's always been underrated, especially his striking that's developed nicely with his jitz... Both guys have great kicks so it'll be interesting...Think this fight is closer than the line reflects, curious why some people are liking easton at near -200?

                                                        Sucks he isn't fighting caraway, I would have paid some juice on easton in that one.
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                                                        • MMAbetMASTA
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 05-24-11
                                                          • 1931

                                                          #273
                                                          hoping these lines get up on my book soon, liking a couple other dogs and couple favs!

                                                          Side note, what odds you all think lavar would have opened at against schaub? I liked him in that if he was at decent dog odds, would have been a fun fight too sucks it got canceled.
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                                                          • MD
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                                                            • 01-31-12
                                                            • 9728

                                                            #274
                                                            Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA
                                                            hoping these lines get up on my book soon, liking a couple other dogs and couple favs!

                                                            Side note, what odds you all think lavar would have opened at against schaub? I liked him in that if he was at decent dog odds, would have been a fun fight too sucks it got canceled.
                                                            I doubt Schaub would have lost that fight. To be honest, I was planning on a pretty sizeable play on Schaub by sub, which I was expecting to get at great odds, hedged with Lavar wins in round one.
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                                                            • gabe
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 09-12-11
                                                              • 7405

                                                              #275
                                                              Originally posted by MD
                                                              I doubt Schaub would have lost that fight. To be honest, I was planning on a pretty sizeable play on Schaub by sub, which I was expecting to get at great odds, hedged with Lavar wins in round one.
                                                              Huh? Schaub has the weakest chin amongst HW's, Lavar would have knocked him out in 15 seconds
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                                                              • Vaughany
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 03-07-10
                                                                • 45563

                                                                #276
                                                                Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA
                                                                why you dig easton as a sizeable fav? I think i'm liking assuncao as a +200ish dog, like easton he's very well rounded and I think he's always been underrated, especially his striking that's developed nicely with his jitz... Both guys have great kicks so it'll be interesting...Think this fight is closer than the line reflects, curious why some people are liking easton at near -200?

                                                                Sucks he isn't fighting caraway, I would have paid some juice on easton in that one.
                                                                Agree, I took Easton at -160 expecting to be able to arb with Assuncao at +200 or better. I think Easton is over-rated
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                                                                • gabe
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                                                                  • 09-12-11
                                                                  • 7405

                                                                  #277
                                                                  Assuncao isn't gonna handle the heat, so he's gonna get out of the kitchen.
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                                                                  • PunisherIND
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 02-24-11
                                                                    • 4979

                                                                    #278
                                                                    Originally posted by gabe
                                                                    Assuncao isn't gonna handle the heat, so he's gonna get out of the kitchen.
                                                                    Lol. Yea, basically how I feel, but I couldn't have said it as poetically as gabers did.
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                                                                    • blumpkin
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                                                                      • 06-16-11
                                                                      • 359

                                                                      #279
                                                                      Any thoughts on Cruickshank/martinez? Martinez didnt look very impressive to me his last time out.
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                                                                      • Vaughany
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                                        • 45563

                                                                        #280
                                                                        Originally posted by blumpkin
                                                                        Any thoughts on Cruickshank/martinez? Martinez didnt look very impressive to me his last time out.
                                                                        yeah was expecting Cruickshank to be the dog
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