UFC on Fox 4: Shogun vs. Vera

**Rod_M** · 08-04-12, 06:52 PM

Anything can happen now...

**bjpenn85** · 08-04-12, 06:54 PM

haha. ****...the judges are going to **** this one up

**bjpenn85** · 08-04-12, 06:56 PM

yes...finally. horrible dec tho. its not like miller won that fight at all. amazing. its all said before, but..there is no development.

**THE_LOCKSMITH** · 08-04-12, 06:57 PM

Miller is just awful, move down to 145 and can't beat siler or phan

**Rubber Guard** · 08-04-12, 07:00 PM

glad they awarded phan the win.

stats were weird. watching it felt like Phan landed many more punches. Cole just had a reach and his hands were always in Phan's face. But many of those weren't landed.

**bjpenn85** · 08-04-12, 07:04 PM

the significant stat chart was bogus. and what did rogan and goldberg talking about. the fight wasnt even at all. name had all the significant shots.

**Vaughany** · 08-04-12, 07:10 PM

Jesussss get the fuuck on with it!

**Thurgood** · 08-04-12, 07:14 PM

Miller was robbed. Miller was smacking Phan's face like 80% of the fight. Crowd got all crazy when Phan would finally run in for a combo. Fukking ridic.

I'm going large on Varner

**aggieshawn** · 08-04-12, 07:21 PM

I bet sbr points on Lauzon.. Wise?

**Beelzebubzy** · 08-04-12, 07:21 PM

FOTN here

**Vaughany** · 08-04-12, 07:24 PM

Taken down and conceding full mount to Damarques!

**Vaughany** · 08-04-12, 07:25 PM

Swick's jus gotta hope Damarques has gassed

**Beelzebubzy** · 08-04-12, 07:26 PM

swick looks tired
adrenaline jump

.5u on DJ at Evens live

**PunisherIND** · 08-04-12, 07:26 PM

bovada had demarques +140 right then

lol, spoke too soon

**Beelzebubzy** · 08-04-12, 07:26 PM

hahah ouch

**Vaughany** · 08-04-12, 07:26 PM

WOaaaaaaaaaah beautiful

**Crassus** · 08-04-12, 07:27 PM

that was a beaut.

**Inkwell77** · 08-04-12, 07:27 PM

One misstep from Johnson and damn

**Vaughany** · 08-04-12, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

swick looks tired
adrenaline jump

.5u on DJ at Evens live

damnnn live betting can be a bitch bro

**Julian1221** · 08-04-12, 07:30 PM

Impressive KO

**hels** · 08-04-12, 07:30 PM

Great ending but mma needs to get rid of herb dean as a ref. He is always a punch too late with his KO stoppages and a punch too soon when he thinks a fighter isn't intelligently defending themselves.

**spurginobili** · 08-04-12, 07:30 PM

That was unexpected.......nice Swick!

**terpkeg** · 08-04-12, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by Thurgood

Miller was robbed. Miller was smacking Phan's face like 80% of the fight. Crowd got all crazy when Phan would finally run in for a combo. Fukking ridic.

I'm going large on Varner

cant argue 2nd and 3rd round imo. comes down to Miller jab early in first vs. heavier shots of phan 2nd half of round. Clear round for Phan.

**El Nino** · 08-04-12, 07:31 PM

Mike Swick is one of my favorite fighters. Guy delivers on a consistent basis. Exciting as hell! That was such a fluid finish.

**Vaughany** · 08-04-12, 07:32 PM

ha Swick will be getting a bonus for sure as I expected...just not SOTN!

**Beelzebubzy** · 08-04-12, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

damnnn live betting can be a bitch bro

It happens
still up tonight thus far with it, but those bumps happen

I would have made the same bet again. DJ controlled the ground, and I thought Swick looked tired. #noregrets #stillup10squid

**El Nino** · 08-04-12, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by hels

Great ending but mma needs to get rid of herb dean as a ref. He is always a punch too late with his KO stoppages and a punch too soon when he thinks a fighter isn't intelligently defending themselves.

Dean and Rosenthal are the best refs in the business. Dean was slow on that one because he didn't expect Swick to score a KO right after a seemingly harmless take down. Mazzagatti would have let him take 5 more shots and waited for Swick to slap on a RNC before he stopped the fight.

**The Bet Master** · 08-04-12, 07:35 PM

Johnson should of finished it in the 1st not sure why he just didn't punch instead of going for the submission. He would of ended it.

**hels** · 08-04-12, 07:35 PM

Originally posted by El Niño

Dean and Rosenthal are the best refs in the business. Dean was slow on that one because he didn't expect Swick to score a KO right after a seemingly harmless take down. Mazzagatti would have let him take 5 more shots and waited for Swick to slap on a RNC before he stopped the fight.

John McCarthy is the best, how do you not know this?

**aggieshawn** · 08-04-12, 07:37 PM

Lauzon odds dropped 25% in the last few minutes....

**El Nino** · 08-04-12, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by hels

John McCarthy is the best, how do you not know this?

Big John is good, but he fukked up. Rosenthal is tops in my book.

**hels** · 08-04-12, 07:41 PM

Originally posted by aggieshawn

Lauzon odds dropped 25% in the last few minutes....

Saw this too, i guess Vegas knows what will happen.

**Vaughany** · 08-04-12, 07:46 PM

Round 1 for the Worm

**Vaughany** · 08-04-12, 07:51 PM

Would like to see Varner throw the odd uppercut

**THE_LOCKSMITH** · 08-04-12, 07:51 PM

fotn