UFC on Fox 4: Shogun vs. Vera

[PunisherIND]

Date: Aug 04, 2012
Location: Los Angeles, California
Venue: Staples Center
Broadcast: FOX, FUEL TV and Facebook

MAIN CARD (FOX)

• Mauricio "Shogun" Rua vs. Brandon Vera
• Ryan Bader vs. Lyoto Machida
• Travis Browne vs. Ben Rothwell

PRELIMINARY CARD (FUEL TV)

• Joe Lauzon vs. Jamie Varner
• Cole Miller vs. Nam Phan
• Phil Davis vs. Wagner Prado
• Rob Broughton vs. Matt Mitrione
• Phil De Fries vs. Oli Thompson
• DaMarques Johnson vs. Mike Swick
• Josh Grispi vs. Rani Yahya
• Manny Gamburyan vs. Michihiro Omigawa

missed the opener on shogun, but i got him at -300. love that line and i would play him up to -350.

i got browne at -245. i think the current -260 is still a bargain. might have to parlay browne + shogun.

for anyone backing ryan bader, 5dimes just released some props for this fight. bader by decision is +500. had to make a little value play on that one.

[Beelzebubzy]

Are you fading Vera or do you like Shogun that much?

[Vitooch]

Surprised to see Vera line so low. Thought he would open in +300s. Would have taken him at those odds.

[Vaughany]

Vera auto-fade! Agree, thought Shogun would be closer to -350, and will probably end up at -400 by fight time

[PunisherIND]

Are you fading Vera or do you like Shogun that much?

Little bit of both. This is a serious step down in competition for shogun. You could say he hand picked vera, who would be cut if not for thiago failing the drug test. I just dont see shogun losing a 5 rounder.

[Vaughany]

Took the Bader by decision at +500 as well just in case another Rampage/Machida situation occurs

[Beelzebubzy]

I can never pull the trigger on shogun post coleman 2

[Beelzebubzy]

what did shogun open at agaimst silva

[Vaughany]

what did shogun open at agaimst silva

Who?


He's -400 now on sportbet

[Beelzebubzy]

Who?


He's -400 now on sportbet

Did anyone release odds for Shogun vs T Silva?

[PunisherIND]

Took the Bader by decision at +500 as well just in case another Rampage/Machida situation occurs

im surprised they offered better odds for bader by dec than bader ITD!

[Vaughany]

im surprised they offered better odds for bader by dec than bader ITD!

yeah bit odd, especially that much difference

[PunisherIND]

Did anyone release odds for Shogun vs T Silva?

dont believe so.

[Vaughany]

Did anyone release odds for Shogun vs T Silva?

oh yeah forgot about tht fight...Bet365 have still got tht fight listed so must of been out (think Kalikas released the line). Shogun -275 and Thiago Silva +225... so when u compare that to the similar opener for the Vera fight it's not surprising tht Shogun is now -400!

[Beelzebubzy]

I am playing the -290 on Bookmaker.

[PunisherIND]

I am playing the -290 on Bookmaker.

Wise move. I need a bookmaker account. That lines been sitting at -290 for 2 days almost.

[Beelzebubzy]

I would only tail three people on this board. V, JC, and Punisher. 2/3 say so, Ill consider it

[Vaughany]

I would only tail three people on this board. V, JC, and Punisher. 2/3 say so, Ill consider it

C'Mon what about Gabe!? Muthafuckers give him no respect...what's an Armenian gotta do round here to get some love...bring out a sex-tape? Dude is the people's Champ! You suckas so duuuuuumb

[The HOFF]

I am playing the -290 on Bookmaker.

Me too.

[Beelzebubzy]

C'Mon what about Gabe!? Muthafuckers give him no respect...what's an Armenian gotta do round here to get some love...bring out a sex-tape? Dude is the people's Champ! You suckas so duuuuuumb

I would love to tail Gabe, but he posts his plays 20 minutes post - post conference

[PunisherIND]

I would only tail three people on this board. V, JC, and Punisher. 2/3 say so, Ill consider it

Cheers bro. JC won't play such a big favorite but hopefully he won't be on vera.

[Vaughany]

I would love to tail Gabe, but he posts his plays 20 minutes post - post conference

haha

[GunShard]

Interesting fight card.

[PunisherIND]

shogun jumped to -530 for a minute. back to -400 now.

[Vitooch]

Hopefully JC backs Vera, which I think he will. I will probably back Vera, and need some credibility

[PunisherIND]

hey vitooch, why dont you ask him who he's backing when you say your prayers tonight? that way theres no need for speculation.

[more_betterness]

shogun jumped to -530 for a minute. back to -400 now.

Dammit! I've been waiting for the line to drop on 5d since it dropped on bookmaker and it happens while I'm on vacation and internet-less .. Would have pounded -280 but rarely ever play anybody above -350 or so. Parlay fodder I guess.

[Digo]

I am confident in Bader by decision in this fight.

[Vitooch]

Think Machida will crush Bader

[Oblivian]

I would definitely pull the trigger on Vera in a 3 round fight. I'm not crazy about it in a 5 round fight.

[Thor4140]

I would definitely pull the trigger on Vera in a 3 round fight. I'm not crazy about it in a 5 round fight.

if u bet Vera u need a few things to happen. U need the Vera of old who beat a bunch of stiff to somehow look good again against competition out of his league. U need the Shogun who fought Forrest the first time around who gassed and basically just showed up for that fight. Now if u get the Shogun who fought Machida u are gonna get smashed. If u get the Shogun who fought Forrest and Coleman u have a slim chance. Vera might be the biggest blowhard in MMA. Can't wait till he wins the title off of Jones and then parlays that with a win over Dos Santos

[Vaughany]

haha Vera is still gonna be the first to hold the LHW and HW titles at same time and thts the Truth baby!

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

decent prelims on this card

[Thor4140]

bump

[gabe]

I would love to tail Gabe, but he posts his plays 20 minutes post - post conference

I gave out all my picks in my thread, so suck my dk, bitch.