UFC 148: Silva vs. Sonnen II

[MMAbetMASTA]

i bet fights on who i think will win not on what the odds are. IF the odds were even i think FRanklin will smash him. If Franklin was ten to 1 odds i still think Franklin will smash him. Cung will have his moments and that is about it. Who has he beat? Nothing but washed up guys and for fuks sake he got beat by a two washed up guys in Smith and Wvandy. I love Wvandy but got to face facts and that is he is a shot fighter, and Smith. Oh brother.

Yea that's all great... Like I said I think rich will win too, but will I BET on him at that absurd price - FUCKKKK NOOOO... If you're so confident and think cung is such a slouch, and oddds don't mean shit... THEN:

[Thor4140]

The thing with Cung Le is that the blueprint is out on how to beat him. His only REAL offence comes from those kicks and there is a lot of tape out there on how to avoid them.

He needs the kicks in order to keep the distance he needs and they are very effective at doing that, but the problem is throwing like 10 focking spinning wheel kicks per round really eats up the gas tank. He was able to hold off Wandelei beautifully until he gassed and got kayoed. He slows down a lot towards the end of each round too, not just near the end of the fight.

He is 40+ now his cardio is only getting worse. I seriously doubt he revamped his entire game in he last few months. He got paid 400k for his last fight and I suspect thats the only reason he is fighting.

Somehow these guys have found a blueprint of this new Cung Lee who is wrecking everyone lol.

[MMAbetMASTA]

Well i can do like u and bet both sides of the fight and have a winner every fight (as well as a loser). U are not even worth the time reading with ur hedging and all that other crap u post.

where the hell are your bets on here???

Oh yea, you're like half the other fuckkks who talk shit here and talk a big game but don't have the balls to post your bets (not picks) BEFORE the fights...Coming on the threads after the fights saying 'oh lucky i had X many units on so-and so, easy win!!" (guarantee you'll do the same if rich wins) lol.. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't recall you posting anything with regard to plays here.. You probably don't even bet either, prob just some broke ass chump still living in mom's basement...

Show some respect, V makes in just one event what you prob make in a couple weeks working at kfc...

[Vaughany]

Well i can do like u and bet both sides of the fight and have a winner every fight (as well as a loser). U are not even worth the time reading with ur hedging and all that other crap u post.

Keep picking winnerz brah

[Thor4140]

where the hell are your bets on here???

Oh yea, you're like half the other fuckkks who talk shit here and talk a big game but don't have the balls to post your bets (not picks) BEFORE the fights... Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't recall you posting anything with regard to plays here.. You probably don't even bet either, prob just some broke ass chump still living in mom's basement...

Show some respect, V makes in just one event what you prob make in a couple weeks working at kfc...

dude shut the fuk up the fight is over a month away. If ur boy V wants to take shots then he better know how to take it. Plus i didn't say anything that anyone else wouldn't think about him. He bets both sides of almost all his fights. It is a big waste of time reading. If i thought u were important i would bring over some of my writings from the other site i post and shove them up ur ass but then again i don't think much of u and ur opinion. Bottom line Frankilin will smash that stiff. What have u seen from Cung that could possibly think this guy has a chance?

[Vaughany]

dude shut the fuk up the fight is over a month away. If ur boy V wants to take shots then he better know how to take it. Plus i didn't say anything that anyone else wouldn't think about him. He bets both sides of almost all his fights. It is a big waste of time reading. If i thought u were important i would bring over some of my writings from the other site i post and shove them up ur ass but then again i don't think much of u and ur opinion. Bottom line Frankilin will smash that stiff. What have u seen from Cung that could possibly think this guy has a chance?

Maybe it's what he's seen from Franklin tht makes him think Cung is worth a shot at +300. We saw him get clipped at the back of the ear by Belfort and drop and then we saw him get smothered by Forrest Griffin (another fighter many are saying is past it) almost a year and a half ago, and is now coming off multiple surgeries. I personally wont be playing Cung, I'll probably be looking at Franklin SOTN or something but I cant knock anybody for thinking Cung is worth a pop at +300 or better.

[Thor4140]

where the hell are your bets on here???

Oh yea, you're like half the other fuckkks who talk shit here and talk a big game but don't have the balls to post your bets (not picks) BEFORE the fights...Coming on the threads after the fights saying 'oh lucky i had X many units on so-and so, easy win!!" (guarantee you'll do the same if rich wins) lol.. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't recall you posting anything with regard to plays here.. You probably don't even bet either, prob just some broke ass chump still living in mom's basement...

Show some respect, V makes in just one event what you prob make in a couple weeks working at kfc...

While u are at it get some new material. The "moms basement jokes" were not even funny when i heard them 15 years ago.

[Thor4140]

Maybe it's what he's seen from Franklin tht makes him think Cung is worth a shot at +300. We saw him get clipped at the back of the ear by Belfort and drop and then we saw him get smothered by Forrest Griffin (another fighter many are saying is past it) almost a year and a half ago. I personally wont be playing Cung, I'll probably be looking at Franklin SOTN or something but I can knock anybody for thinking Cung is worth a pop at +300 or better.

Franklin was so much bigger which Rich won't have to worry about with Lee. Belfort and that speed can clip anyone.

[The Fobfather]

Franklin off the card. Moves into the main event of 147 vs. Wanderlei Silva.

[Thor4140]

Franklin off the card. Moves into the main event of 147 vs. Wanderlei Silva.

lol wtf. This was a waste of time then

[Thor4140]

looks like Papi's ass got saved with him getting hurt before Story wrecked him

[Vaughany]

haha always count on the company man Franklin!

[Vaughany]

looks like Papi's ass got saved with him getting hurt before Story wrecked him

Shiit was gonna be good parlay material at -400 or something. See Brock Jardine is stepping in...interesting..shame its not Keith!

[Beelzebubzy]

So who does Cung Le face?
Move Bisping there IMO

[Vaughany]

So who does Cung Le face?
Move Bisping there IMO

No way they do tht and Bisping wouldnt take tht fight. Highly doubt he would want to go from a guy on a win streak like Boetsch to a guy coming off a loss

[Beelzebubzy]

Okami vs Le some yellow on yellow crime!

Forrest said the weight cut in Brazil was very tough because they didnt have everything he needed. I wonder how Rich is going to do. This is his first cut back to 185 in a long time.

Edit: Its at a 190 catchweight

[Crassus]

Haha I love how Vaughny is ripping this Thor dude apart and as soon as the arguments out of merits it's suddenly pretty much all good. Well done V.

[Thor4140]

Haha I love how Vaughny is ripping this Thor dude apart and as soon as the arguments out of merits it's suddenly pretty much all good. Well done V.

Yeah he sliced me up pretty good. What exactly are u reading or did he just trim his nuts and accidentally nip u in the process?

[Thor4140]

Shiit was gonna be good parlay material at -400 or something. See Brock Jardine is stepping in...interesting..shame its not Keith!

yeah i read that and wonder how the hell Keith got back in the UfC.

[MMAbetMASTA]

While u are at it get some new material. The "moms basement jokes" were not even funny when i heard them 15 years ago.

wait so yo momma was telling you that joke when you were 2 years old?? Yea sure, I'll get right on it though and make sure I step up my jokes for you, sorry.

[MMAbetMASTA]

Franklin off the card. Moves into the main event of 147 vs. Wanderlei Silva.

couldn't have come at a more awkward time..

[MMAbetMASTA]

lol wtf. This was a waste of time then

Indeed, we can agree on this.

[Crassus]

Yeah he sliced me up pretty good. What exactly are u reading or did he just trim his nuts and accidentally nip u in the process?

Oh no, the guy who doesn't look at odds while gambling doesn't like me! Whatever will I do without his sound advice and insight. . Moron.

[MMAbetMASTA]

While franklin is a decent replacement for wand, I was looking foward to cung / franklin, I think it would've been itneresting and entertaining, a nice clash of styles. Wand / franklin on teh other hand, while should be entertaining, just doesn't thrill me all that much.... I'd have to look at the current mw roster, but I would think they could have had someone a bit more interesting fill in to face wand (not that franklin isn't interesting but it just doesn't hit my 'fan' buttons or get me as horny.... wait whuuut?).

sign benji radach to fight le and let he or le KO eachother, it will be SF nostalgia all over again...

[PunisherIND]

wandy opens as the favorite over franklin.

[fosho14]

I really like the DHK line. Maia is not going to submit him off his back or in a scramble (at least I don't think he will) and that is maia's only chance of winning. Thoughts?

[Beelzebubzy]

Cote vs Le if it hasnt been posted.

Cote by sub

[Crassus]

Cote vs Le if it hasnt been posted.

Cote by sub

Cote by decision or Le by TKO, I'm thinking Le honestly.

[Thor4140]

I really like the DHK line. Maia is not going to submit him off his back or in a scramble (at least I don't think he will) and that is maia's only chance of winning. Thoughts?

Mia is such a frustrating fighter to bet. Now that most know how to defend hiis JU Jitz it always seems Mia fights will go the distance and usually up for grabs by the judges. Just a tough guy to bet.

[MMAbetMASTA]

I really like the DHK line. Maia is not going to submit him off his back or in a scramble (at least I don't think he will) and that is maia's only chance of winning. Thoughts?

I can't call that one at all... I think both are even on the feet and I wouldn't be surprised if we see a sparing match (which is a complete toss up if that's what you think will happen), and i think dhk's top control is some of the best in the game so I don't know how well maia can use his usually very effective guard if it hits the mat. Furthermore, you gotta question maia's cut and how it will go for him... He's always looked soft, but I did notice that over his career at mw he seemed to put on some muscle and mass (from his debut up to his last couple fights he's clearly got a bit more 'swoll' I think), and now here he is planning to cut... so I honsetly don't know if this cut will benefit him, if anything it would make it worse imo (and dhk is a big ass asian ww too, so its not like maia is gonna be some monster next to him)... If DHK was dead even or a dog (which I'm surprised he's not considered maia's name), I would make a SU play, but at this point I can't. DEF don't see him finishing maia so if you like him take dhk by decision (same with maia, I think hewould get a d if he wins)... The over 2 1/2 line will be very juicy on this fight, but this will surely go the distance I think unless maia completely gassses and gets pounded out. GL on this one, its a tough one to call man.

[Beelzebubzy]

I played Kim small. I think Kim by Decision is the play here if you are playing him. I think Kim staying as the favorite is because of Maia's age and first weight cut to 170. Moreover, Kim can employ a similar gameplan to weidman.

The one concern I have is that we saw Condit sweep Kim in the UFC 132 matchup.

[MMAbetMASTA]

I played Kim small. I think Kim by Decision is the play here if you are playing him. I think Kim staying as the favorite is because of Maia's age and first weight cut to 170. Moreover, Kim can employ a similar gameplan to weidman.

The one concern I have is that we saw Condit sweep Kim in the UFC 132 matchup.

very good point with that... Maia gets on top when he's fresh dhk will be in trouble me thinks...

[fosho14]

The one concern I have is that we saw Condit sweep Kim in the UFC 132 matchup.

Excellent point, tough fight to call, but still on DHK small fer sure

[Crassus]

I played Kim small. I think Kim by Decision is the play here if you are playing him. I think Kim staying as the favorite is because of Maia's age and first weight cut to 170. Moreover, Kim can employ a similar gameplan to weidman.

The one concern I have is that we saw Condit sweep Kim in the UFC 132 matchup.

Maia aint Condit I'll tell you that much, but he did give a hell of a fight to Mark Munoz...damn this is a tough fight to call.

[Vaughany]

Anderson Silva admits knee injury, having tests done to see if he can still fight... http://www.tatame.com.br/2012/05/28/...ao-adiara-luta