Vitooch's Generic MMA Thread

[Vitooch]

Went all in on Eddie Alverez...all in on SBR points, that is.

Great night of Bellator fights and TUF. Looking forward to tomorrow's card. Hope everyone cashed in tonight.

[Vitooch]

nternet / 0		RCPT	Transfer from Forum to Sports Internal ID:6433981		24.00		04/16/2012 08:51 PM
Internet / -1	Ticket #: 1424254 Apr 20 09:45 PM	MU	STRAIGHT BET [1152] EDDIE ALVAREZ -215 (SHINYA AOKI vrs EDDIE ALVAREZ)	215.00 / 100.00	100.00	WIN WIN	04/16/2012 08:52 PM
Internet / 0		RCPT	Transfer from Forum to Sports Internal ID:6462595		60.00		04/21/2012 02:37 PM
Internet / -1	Ticket #: 1434180 Apr 21 06:50 PM	MU	STRAIGHT BET [2723] MARCUS BRIMAGE +225 (MARCUS BRIMAGE vrs MAXIMO BLANCO)	15.00 / 33.75	33.75	WIN WIN	04/21/2012 04:36 PM
Internet / -1	Ticket #: 1434157 Apr 21 08:10 PM	MU	STRAIGHT BET [2720] MAC DANZIG -155 (EFRAIN ESCUDERO vrs MAC DANZIG)	54.25 / 35.00	35.00	WIN WIN	04/21/2012 04:29 PM
Internet / -1	Ticket #: 1434159 Apr 21 08:35 PM	MU	STRAIGHT BET [2718] ANTHONY NJOKUAN -200 (JOHN MAKDESSI vrs ANTHONY NJOKUAN)	60.00 / 30.00	30.00	WIN WIN	04/21/2012 04:29 PM
Internet / -1	Ticket #: 1434160 Apr 21 09:35 PM	MU	STRAIGHT BET [2714] TODD BROWN -317 (CHAD GRIGGS vrs TODD BROWN)	95.10 / 30.00	30.00	WIN WIN	04/21/2012 04:30 PM
Internet / -1	Ticket #: 1434181 Apr 21 10:15 PM	TNT	ROTHWELL WINS BY 3 RD DECISION [1] YES +1268	10.00 / 126.80	-10.00	LOSE LOSE	04/21/2012 04:36 PM
Internet / -1	Ticket #: 1434183 Apr 21 10:15 PM	TNT	ROTHWELL WINS BY TKO/KO [1] YES +320	15.00 / 48.00	48.00	WIN WIN	04/21/2012 04:36 PM
Internet / -1	Ticket #: 1434819 Apr 21 10:15 PM	TNT	ROTHWELL WINS BY TKO/KO [1] YES +320	15.00 / 48.00	48.00	WIN WIN	04/21/2012 09:52 PM
Internet / -1	Ticket #: 1434185 Apr 21 11:15 PM	TNT	JONES WINS INSIDE DISTANCE [1] YES -210	117.00 / 55.71	-117.00	LOSE LOSE	04/21/2012 04:37 PM
Internet / -1	Ticket #: 1434167 Apr 21 11:30 PM	MU	STRAIGHT BET [2703] CHE MILLS +470 (CHE MILLS vrs RORY MACDONALD)	15.00 / 70.50	-15.00	LOSE LOSE	04/21/2012 04:33 PM

For what it's worth, I had a good weekend betting SBR points haha.

[Vitooch]

Congrats to everyone who cashed that Baker dog play tonight. I was really pushing for that play ever since I saw the line for it.

It's going to be a very busy next few days for me, but looking very forward to committing alot more of my time over the summer to capping. Really like Krauss tomorrow.

[Beelzebubzy]

Vitooch on May 08, 2012 at 2:24 pm ET

Tim Elliot looked horrible also.

Dreads only looks good on my pubes.

[sirchadwick1]

Tim didn't look too bad to be honest, taking the fight on short notice. I mean it was more show than anything, but the guy gave Dodson some real fits.

[Beelzebubzy]

I just thought it was funny when I saw it, and decided to post it here hopefully giving someone a laugh on this Tuesday.

[Vitooch]

Tim didn't look too bad to be honest, taking the fight on short notice. I mean it was more show than anything, but the guy gave Dodson some real fits.

No, I am referring to Elliot's hairstyle haha. It was a comment I left on an MMAJunkie article.

I thought he looked good against one of flyweight's most promising flyweights. Thanks for the shoutout Beelz.

[Vitooch]

Hate to see this. Really enjoyed watching Marcus Davis when he was in the UFC.

[Vitooch]

I'm back oysters...After two weeks of studying, pulling all nighters, and lots of explosive diarrhea, I am finally done with my studies for the year.

Looking forward to getting back into capping after an up and down few months. Now that my head is cleared, and I have much more time for research, line shopping, I am ready to **** the books in their vaginas.

[Vaughany]

Good stuff, hope it all went well (including the diarrhea)!

[Beelzebubzy]

No, I am referring to Elliot's hairstyle haha. It was a comment I left on an MMAJunkie article.

I thought he looked good against one of flyweight's most promising flyweights. Thanks for the shoutout Beelz.

Quote should be move to the Department of Redundancy Department

[Vitooch]

Quote should be move to the Department of Redundancy Department

Haha I probably wrote that during one of my stints of not sleeping for 24 hours. I'm rested now and will make sure I don't sound like one of dem' funny lookin retards

[Vitooch]

Good stuff, hope it all went well (including the diarrhea)!

I gotta tell ya V my ass was like a leaky faucet all week. That's what drinking Doubleshot espressos and no sleep does for you.

[PunisherIND]

Haha I probably wrote that during one of my stints of not sleeping for 24 hours. I'm rested now and will make sure I don't sound like one of dem' funny lookin retards

please change your avatar. martin looks like a retard with that shit eating grin. i feel like punching my screen whenever you post. lol.

[Vaughany]

I gotta tell ya V my ass was like a leaky faucet all week. That's what drinking Doubleshot espressos and no sleep does for you.

haha I've been there brother...lethal combinations of coffee and cheap energy drinks during uni led to some terrible sessions!

[Beelzebubzy]

I gotta tell ya V my ass was like a leaky faucet all week. That's what drinking Doubleshot espressos and no sleep does for you.

Haha we used to steal adderall off this kid down the hall, open the pill, snort half, reconnect the pill (if thats the right lingo) and sell it.

[Vitooch]

Deniro... Pacino... Lawrence.

[Vaughany]

Haha we used to steal adderall off this kid down the hall, open the pill, snort half, reconnect the pill (if thats the right lingo) and sell it.

haha bastards!

[Vitooch]

Tonight my bets include:

Strauss -110
Chiesa/Lawrence Under 1 1/2 +155
Proctor -200
Marx +210

May add more based on if Marx and Strauss hits.

[Vitooch]

Should never bet TUF again. ****.

If my Lawrence/Chiesa under bet hits I'm even for the day

[Vitooch]

					2 Team Parlay
					5/15/12 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1502 Tom Lawlor -225* vs Jason MacDonald
					5/15/12 6:00pm UFC Fighting 1902 Rafael dos Anjos -260* vs Kamal Shalorus
					5/15/12 7:30pm UFC Fighting 1601 Marcus LeVesseur +120* vs Cody McKenzie
					5/15/12 7:00pm UFC Fighting 1702 Brad Tavares -185* vs Dongi Yang
					5/15/12 10:30pm Props Fighting 1039 Poirier wins by submission +350* vs Any other result

[Vitooch]

Phil Davis/ Chad Griggs announced for UFC on Fox 4.

What did Griggs do to piss off Dana?

[Vitooch]

[Vitooch]

5/15/12 9:30pm Props Fighting 1231 Cerrone wins by submission +320*vs Any other result

						5/15/12 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1102 Amir Sadollah -135* vs Jorge Lopez
						5/15/12 9:00pm Props Fighting 1337 Hougland/Jabouin starts round 2 -265* vs Fight won't start round 2

5/15/12 10:00pm Props Fighting 1133 Sadollah wins by TKO/KO +1065*vs Any other result

5/15/12 10:30pm Props Fighting 1039 Poirier wins by submission +350*vs Any other result

Added these plays....Already in the green for the day... Need Poirier by submission for a truly successful night.

What the **** is this font I am writing in

[Vitooch]

After UFC on FUEL TV 3 questionable calls, Alex Davis says criticism must be heard

by Alex Davis on May 16, 2012 at 7:30 pm ET

I have been at this MMA game for quite a while. As this sport continues to develop, something that has always intrigued me has been figuring out who these "commission people" are, from judges to referees to the commissioners in charge, and how they got to be in their positions.

I remember the time back before the Fertitta brothers bought the UFC when MMA was still banned from most states. And I'll never forget going to Birmingham, Ala., in May 1999 for UFC 20. That was certainly some night!

In the main event, Kevin Randleman mauled Bas Rutten for three rounds and by most accounts should have walked away with the UFC heavyweight title, and yet the judges ended up giving the decision to Bas. I can't really begin to explain to you how pissed off Kevin was, but they cut off the pay-per-view transmission just as Kevin came back on stage ready to punish anyone that got in his way – and rightly so, in my opinion. The judges made a poor decision.

Since then, I have dealt with many commissions and many more commissioners. I have been in situations where I taught referees what an armbar is, what the guard is, what mounted means.

Sure, some things have improved as MMA has grown, but I have also seen many things that were just as bizarre. I saw a young man get kicked in the groin so hard the he convulsed inside the octagon and started throwing up. I'm no medical expert, but that fight should have been stopped right then and there. You don't need a black belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu or a professional MMA record to understand that this guy was in trouble and couldn't continue. But the officials simply brushed his shorts off, patted him on the back and said, "Go get 'em brother!"

That fighter was lucky he only ended up losing the fight and not the functions of his particulars! And that incident was not even that long ago.

Another time, I was present when a well-known commissioner wanted to do urine tests right before the weigh-ins. Now how clueless can you be? First of all, the fighters are all dehydrated and aren't going to even be able to produce a sample. Second, how is that supposed to prove what's in their system on fight night? This guy was simply the worst – the king of all peacocks! I could write a whole article on him alone.

Or how about the commissioner who directed the camps during a rules meeting that fighters should not be celebrating after a win?

"You are here to fight – not celebrate," the order went.

Really? Fighters shouldn't be allowed to celebrate the fruits of their labor, to let their emotions run wild when the sacrifices they have made for the past three months ultimately pay off with a win? And what about the fans? Who doesn't want to see these gladiators celebrate their greatest accomplishments?

And how about that prominent judge who once stated that "Leg kicks don't end fights"? I remember thinking I wanted to get him in front of Edson Barboza and let "Junior" just kind of nudge that judge with a glancing blow or two. I have a feeling Edson could influence that gentleman's opinion.

It goes on and on, and I could tell you about all these things I have witnessed, and the people behind unbelievable cases like these. It seems there are times when those in charge of regulating the sport are no more knowledgable or well-trained than those watching the fights from up in the stands. Heck, those fans oftentimes probably know more about the sport – they are passionate about the sport and understand all the subtle nuances.

Don't get me wrong, I have also met many sincere professionals along the way who took the time to educate themselves, who have a true intent on the safety and regulation of the sport and who are working to improve the quality of MMA judging and officiating.

I also don't pretend to be a specialist on athletic commission operations. They have to exist, for sure. If not, things would be a complete mess. But what does need to happen – and urgently – is that true professional need to fill up all of these commission positions.

You don't have a taxi driver fly an airplane do you? Or a lawyer fill in for the local dentist? As ridiculous as this may sound, that is exactly what seems to be happening in some athletic commissions today. People are out there judging and carrying on as officials when they are simply clueless! They do look good on TV, and their names sound nice on the loud speakers, but they have no right to be there.

Put simply, the regulators in this sport must be regulated, too. This is serious. It involves people's lives and dreams, and it involves their income, as well.

I can tell you, nothing is more irritating than being on the wrong side of a bad decision – and I don't mean the decision that you alone see as bad because it's your guy and you are emotionally involved and tend to see things your way. I mean the bad decision that the whole world cries out about, that the statistics show was wrong, that everyone knows was simply incorrect, but even so, in front of the whole world, you get to eat that toad! There's nothing you can do about it. You are bound by the system to live with an error and its effects, because you cant buck the commission. And trust me when I tell you (and speaking from personal experience), you can't.

But that mentality has to change. We as fans and fighters pay these people to do a job, and just as in any other case, if they don't do it right, we should have the right to address it. We must all hold the commissions and their employees to the highest standards. When they meet then, we must go out of our way to show our appreciation for a job well done. But when they fail, no one should need to fear the repercussions of speaking out against obvious mistakes.

[Vitooch]

Pending	2 Team Parlay
				Pending	5/19/12 3:30pm NBA Basketball 525 San Antonio Spurs -220* vs Los Angeles Clippers
				Pending	5/19/12 11:00pm Strikeforce Fighting 2102 Gilbert Melendez -500* vs Josh Thomson
				Pending	2 Team Parlay
				Pending	5/19/12 11:00pm Strikeforce Fighting 2102 Gilbert Melendez -500* vs Josh Thomson
				Pending	5/19/12 11:00pm Props Fighting 2010 Not Barnett inside distance -172* vs Barnett wins inside distance
				Pending	5/19/12 11:00pm Strikeforce Fighting 2001 Daniel Cormier +100* vs Josh Barnett

Very confident in Melendez and Cormier tomorrow. Melendez for obvious reasons, and Cormier for his superior wrestling, sharp boxing and athleticism. Cormier as a dog against Bigfoot was my first ever win handicapping. I saw something special in him since seeing him on those Strikeforce Challengers cards. He has the athlete wrestling combined with athleticism to dictate the pace of this fight and where it takes place. Barnett is much slower standing and will have a difficult time getting a hold of Cormier and dragging him to the ground. Cormier will land consistently with a stiff jab and cruise to a decision.

This is an article I submitted to MMAJunkie that was featured on the Sunday Junkie a few years ago...


DANIEL CORMIER FOLLOWS MATURE MMA CAREER PATH

Former Olympic wrestler Daniel Cormier continues to impress his constituents with dominant performances in smaller MMA organizations (XMMA, King of the Cage) and Strikeforce Challengers cards. However, this success is naturally proceeded by criticism from naive observers who claim that he is not sufficiently challenging himself. Ironically, Daniel Cormier is one of the rare fighters who is taking the proper approach to his MMA career: one of patience and humbleness. Unlike many promising prospects of his caliber, Cormier has refused to submit to the allure of a healthy UFC contract and instead has chosen to meticulously improve his skills at the American Kickboxing Academy, while still accumulating experience and small paychecks from smaller organizations in the process. Daniel Cormier has developed into a true "student of the sport," and aspiring MMA fighters should take note of his thoughtfulness and maturity.

[gabe]

Good luck, except for the play on the Spurs. CLIPPERS ALL THE WAY, FOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Vitooch]

Im actually considering a 1H play on Clippers, but I see Spurs taking this.

[Vitooch]

Also my MMA plays from today....

Win	5/18/12 8:30pm Bellator Fighting 2201 Jessica Aguilar +195* vs Megumi Fujii

Win	2 Team Parlay
					Win	5/18/12 9:30pm Bellator Fighting 2002 Maiquel Falcao -310* vs Andreas Spang
					Win	5/18/12 9:00pm Bellator Fighting 2102 Karl Amoussou -155* vs David Rickels

Loss	5/18/12 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1101 Chris Saunders +290* vs Vinc Pichel

Loss	5/18/12 10:30pm UFC Fighting 1001 Andy Ogle +375* vs Al Iaquinta

Went very small on my two TUF losses. Fortunate to have had a profitable night. Aguilar/Fuji could have gone either way. Was still my favorite play of the night. Plenty of value there at + odds.

[fosho14]

I'm with you with cormier...Either we celebrate or burn together.

[DeFactoCrippler]

Cormier as a dog against Bigfoot was my first ever win handicapping.

Am I reading this right? You won your first bet only a few months ago? Christ, what were you doing for the last two years, jerking off to your Daniel Cormier Poster and writing love poems about him and submitting them to MMAjunkie? God, you really are a little fanboy phaget, lol.

I saw something special in him since seeing him on those Strikeforce Challengers cards. He has the athlete wrestling combined with athleticism to dictate the pace of this fight and where it takes place. Barnett is much slower standing and will have a difficult time getting a hold of Cormier and dragging him to the ground. Cormier will land consistently with a stiff jab and cruise to a decision.

Wtf is this drivel, more of the same garbage like you wrote about your last man crush tavares? You don't know shit about fighting kid.

"He has the athlete wrestling combined with athleticism"


inb4 fosho14

[Vaughany]

lol

[illmatick]

[Vitooch]

Am I reading this right? You won your first bet only a few months ago? Christ, what were you doing for the last two years, jerking off to your Daniel Cormier Poster and writing love poems about him and submitting them to MMAjunkie? God, you really are a little fanboy phaget, lol.



Wtf is this drivel, more of the same garbage like you wrote about your last man crush tavares? You don't know shit about fighting kid.

"He has the athlete wrestling combined with athleticism"


inb4 fosho14

*superior wrestling combined with athleticism

[Vitooch]

				Pending	5/19/12 10:30pm Props Fighting 2209 Cavalcante wins inside distance +101* vs Not Cavalcante inside distance
				Pending	5/19/12 10:00pm Props Fighting 2311 Burrell wins by 3 round decision +158* vs Not Burrell by 3 round decision
				Pending	5/19/12 11:00pm Props Fighting 2109 Melendez wins inside distance +211* vs Not Melendez inside distance
				Pending	5/19/12 10:30pm NBA Basketball 527 Oklahoma City Thunder -1 -110* vs Los Angeles Lakers