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VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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gabeSBR Hall of Famer
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#247WTF somebody help me out here! It's there in black and white...
Originally Posted by gabe
He'll tap Easton out or judo toss him down against the cage and beat him against it.
I quoted you saying it, I really don't get where the confusion is.
Surely I'm not the only one seeing this bullsh*t?! Sometimes it feels like I'm on a different planet here, parallel universe or something!
It's okay to just admit you're wrong sometimes Gabriel, you dont have to defend yourself against every single thing even when you know you dont have a leg to stand on! I dont get some great kind of feeling out of this...it would be like thinking I'm great after beating my downs-syndrome cousin at a game of chess!
Here's my prediction on the fight:
"He is going to be in Easton's face from the beginning of the first round bell to the end of the third round bell. He is going to throw everything he can at Easton. He is going to pressure him. Jared Papazian is a very talented newcomer who has great coaching and training partners. He is hungry for this fight and although on short notice, he is ready for it. I find Mike Easton to be a talented striker, but Jared is durable, so I don't see Mike putting him away. I can see Jared getting a submission or a knockout, but more than likely it will go to a decision, and he will take at least 2 out of 3 rounds. Jared Papazian +3.5 would be a good prop bet, as would Fight Goes the Distance, Over Rd 1, Over Rd 2, and Jared Papazian by Decision. I can't wait for this fight, it's gonna be a good one. Place a bet for FIGHT OF THE NIGHT, if it's available. In conclusion, I am taking Jared Papazian, ranked 49th in the world at 135 as a big underdog against Mike Easton, ranked 66th in the world at 135."
If you read all that and assumed that my prediction was that Jared Papazian will CERTAINLY use judo throws and win via submission, then you MUST be living on a different planet!!
P.S.- I'm shocked you didn't complain about me not mentioning who Jared's coaches and training partners are and how he trains when I said that he has "great coaching and training partners."Last edited by gabe; 02-17-12, 01:29 PM.Comment -
gabeSBR Hall of Famer
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#248That's the whole point!...He doesn't have a particularly great camp! The only possible thing you could say is good about it is that he's now working on his striking with Antoni Hardonk. In comparison to other fighters he isn't in a "great camp". He isnt at a place like Alliance, ATT, Alpha Male, Rouffus Academy, AKA. He didnt even get a chance to spar with the half-decent guys that train at Dynamix such as Matyushenko and Jared Hamann.
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VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#249No, I didnt say that u said it was CERTAIN. Nothing is certain. Fact is you denied saying anything similar to "Papazian will judo toss Easton and sub him" yet your direct quote is there in black and white! It's great and all that you also said after that just about every other possible outcome could happen to cover yourself (lol), but just because you said every outcome possible doesnt mean that you didnt say the other part and that it isnt valid!Comment -
gabeSBR Hall of Famer
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#250Seeing as he and Rogan where was asking where there was to eat nearby and I was staying in the Copthorne hotel literally 100 yards away from where it turned out Rogan was staying then yes it very different! Furthermore, some buddies of mine actually got free tickets off of Dana outside his hotel (Hilton) on the day of the fights so wasnt like it's some big secret where they stay! I find a nerdy skinny dude who thinks he's a comedian giving a professional MMA fighter advice on how to beat another elite fighter a hell of lot funnier!!!
and how do i think i'm a comedian? you could say i'm a bad comedian, but what do u mean when u say i THINK i'm a comedian? i mean, i do comedy. that makes me a comedian. you can say i'm not successful (no shit, i'm just starting out) or that i probably suck, but you can't say i'm not one. you sound stupid.
and again LOL @ you tweeting to rogan and dana asking for which hotel they're staying at and expecting a response!!!
and i'm pretty sure your friends didn't run into him at his hotel and get hooked up with tickets lol good one tho. if that happened, he would tell them to check on twitter. he doesn't personally hold tickets on him. nice try, though. lying sack of sh!t.Comment -
gabeSBR Hall of Famer
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#251No, I didnt say that u said it was CERTAIN. Nothing is certain. Fact is you denied saying anything similar to "Papazian will judo toss Easton and sub him" yet your direct quote is there in black and white! It's great and all that you also said after that just about every other possible outcome could happen to cover yourself (lol), but just because you said every outcome possible doesnt mean that you didnt say the other part and that it isnt valid!
I didn't mention EVERY POSSIBLE OUTCOME. I said more than likely it would go to a decision, and mentioned that I wouldn't be surprised if Jared gets a KO or Submission. You call that mentioning "every possible outcome" ?? Saying I could see Papazian winning inside the distance but more than likely the fight will go the distance is NOT mentioning every possible outcome, you ratard. My prediction was clearly Jared Papazian by Decision and +3.5 to be safe. If that was not clear to you after 100 mentions in my thread and others, then you indeed are on another planet.
How is it that there is a lie in every single response you come up with? I clearly did not deny saying that yet you lied I did... smhLast edited by gabe; 02-17-12, 01:48 PM.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#252clearly if he had incorporated judo throws into the fight, it would have played the deciding factor in the decision, so you shouldn't find it funny, otherwise you're a moron.
and how do i think i'm a comedian? you could say i'm a bad comedian, but what do u mean when u say i THINK i'm a comedian? i mean, i do comedy. that makes me a comedian. you can say i'm not successful (no shit, i'm just starting out) or that i probably suck, but you can't say i'm not one. you sound stupid.
and again LOL @ you tweeting to rogan and dana asking for which hotel they're staying at and expecting a response!!!
and i'm pretty sure your friends didn't run into him at his hotel and get hooked up with tickets lol good one tho. if that happened, he would tell them to check on twitter. he doesn't personally hold tickets on him. nice try, though. lying sack of sh!t.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#253Okay you must be trolling now. It was like a couple hours ago when you said:
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cheeeseSBR Wise Guy
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#254V, if you want to base you analysis off of facts and research like a little bitch then be my guest. Just don't pounce all over my man Gabe because he is able to tap into the Akashic records and find out who will win in advance. How else could he have never lost a lock? The sample size is over 20 now.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#255lolComment -
gabeSBR Hall of Famer
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#256
just lol @ using me calling u a liar as an example of me being in denialComment -
FightFightFightSBR Wise Guy
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#257Keep up the good work fellas.Comment -
gabeSBR Hall of Famer
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#258V, if you want to base you analysis off of facts and research like a little bitch then be my guest. Just don't pounce all over my man Gabe because he is able to tap into the Akashic records and find out who will win in advance. How else could he have never lost a lock? The sample size is over 20 now.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#259Where is the denial in that???? wtf??? You're quoting me calling you a liar, not me being in denial. You lied and said that my prediction was that Papazian was going to judo throw Easton and submit him, and you showed no evidence I said that. Evidence only shows that I said Papazian SHOULD incorporate judo throws and i could/would like to see him do so and wouldn't be surprised if he manages to get a submission. I clearly say that on numerous occasions, yet you lie saying that I said Papazian will judo throw Easton down and submit him.
just lol @ using me calling u a liar as an example of me being in denial
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gabeSBR Hall of Famer
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#260Also, please link me to where I said "He'll tap Easton out or judo toss him down against the cage and beat him against it"
I couldn't find it in my thread. I'm sure I said it, but have a feeling you're taking it way out of context. I'm sure I never said it in the context of predicting the fight, since I mentioned over 100 times in numerous threads that the fight would more than likely go the distance. I had big money on the over 2.5.
You're like a reporter, taking lines out of context and painting your own picture w/ them -- you damn well know from reading my prediction and all other posts that followed that i was confident in the fight going the distanceLast edited by gabe; 02-17-12, 02:10 PM.Comment -
gabeSBR Hall of Famer
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#261Gabe seriously dude, I've quoted it about 3 times already! I used the quote where you said Papazian would tap him out or judo toss him down! Is there something wrong with your screen and you cant see certain sentences? So please clarify, this following statement (which is the evidence) does not mean that you thought Papazian was going to submit or judo throw Easton?...
What more evidence could there be!?
Why are you using an out of context quote I can't find anywhere, and not the numerous mentions of the fight going the distance I've come across while looking for that quote?
I mentioned over 100 times in dif threads that the fight would go the distance, and you only see me saying see that? where is the rest of the quote?Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#262
He's talented, has good footwork, but his conditioning kinda sucks. He tired out early against Bloodworth, but still managed to get the KO.
I think Papazian has several advantages, but so does Easton... at a big dog price, Papazian would be a beautiful play. He's gonna drop to 125 after this fight and be a force in that division, but I think he leaves 135 with a win. He'll tap Easton out or judo toss him down against the cage and beat him against it. I can totally see him taking a decision or pulling off an armbar or something.Comment -
gabeSBR Hall of Famer
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#263
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VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#264Why do keep harping on about you saying elsewhere that Papazian would win by decision? It's irrelelevant. Fact is you said it, and dont make out like you said flippantly as a "throw-away" line because you said he could sub Easton elsewhere. I could say... "Boetsch is a great pick against Okami as underdog. He's got a great camp. He'll either tap Okami out or throw him down and beat him against the cage and win a decision". Nothing wrong with saying that he might sub Okami, but it's ridiculous of me to say it without any reasoning or evidence that Boetsch could do that - which was the whole point of me highlighting that quote of yours in the first place as MMAbetmasta was saying that you have solid breakdowns.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#265Hopefully the Barbarian goes and kimuras Okami now and gets SOTN and then calling me a dumbass would be warranted!Comment -
gabeSBR Hall of Famer
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#266Why do keep harping on about you saying elsewhere that Papazian would win by decision? It's irrelelevant. Fact is you said it, and dont make out like you said flippantly as a "throw-away" line because you said he could sub Easton elsewhere. I could say... "Boetsch is a great pick against Okami as underdog. He's got a great camp. He'll either submit Okami or throw him down and beat him against the cage and win a decision". Nothing wrong with saying that he might sub Okami, but it's ridiculous of me to say it without any reasoning or evidence that Boetsch could do that - which was the whole point of me highlighting that quote of yours in the first place as MMAbetmasta was saying that you have solid breakdowns.
from everything you saw from me, from everything i said about the fight, all that you took was me saying that papazian will def use judo and get a submission???i have nothing else to say to you
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gabeSBR Hall of Famer
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#267Why do keep harping on about you saying elsewhere that Papazian would win by decision? It's irrelelevant. Fact is you said it, and dont make out like you said flippantly as a "throw-away" line because you said he could sub Easton elsewhere. I could say... "Boetsch is a great pick against Okami as underdog. He's got a great camp. He'll either tap Okami out or throw him down and beat him against the cage and win a decision". Nothing wrong with saying that he might sub Okami, but it's ridiculous of me to say it without any reasoning or evidence that Boetsch could do that - which was the whole point of me highlighting that quote of yours in the first place as MMAbetmasta was saying that you have solid breakdowns.
What you did is basically find a line I said that you didn't agree with and tried to use it against me, even though there is more than enough evidence to prove that the line isn't how I felt the fight would go. You knew very well I predicted that fight to go the distance, but you can't really find anything else to attack me with, so you're just trying to get a hold of anything you can to use against me. Just pathetic. You didn't know what to say after I shut you up, so you came back with this garbage? Please.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#268Nothing else to attack you with?! The list is endless Gabe!
If you had reasoning and belief in his sub and judo skills then why didnt you elaborate on it or share that reasoning? How would a blue-belt in Papazian overcome a Lloyd Irvin Black-belt? Of course it's not impossible, but would be nice to actually have an idea of how you think he would achieve it!
Again you aren't understanding the main point of my argument. You really don't seem to know how to understand under-lying points/messages do you? You just read the text and go ape-sh*t over it from a narrow-minded perspective. I couldnt give two shits whether you said he'd submit Easton once or 100 times, or whether you said he'd win a decision once or 100 times. The fact is that your reasoning and explanation is tenuous at best.
Now I've got a crucial chess game to attend to...my downs-syndrome cousin has been waiting for ages!Comment -
gabeSBR Hall of Famer
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#269Nothing else to attack you with?! The list is endless Gabe! If you had reasoning and belief in his sub and judo skills then why didnt you elaborate on it or share that reasoning? How would a blue-belt in Papazian overcome a Lloyd Irvin Black-belt? Of course it's not impossible, but would be nice to actually have an idea of how you think he would achieve it!
Endless list, huh? That's why you're keep digging up arguments that don't even hold up???
Take some time and try to come up with a better lie.
For the record, my write-ups for the Shalorus and Papazian fights were spot-on, so those are terrible examples to use against me.Comment -
more_betternessSBR Sharp
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#270and again LOL @ you tweeting to rogan and dana asking for which hotel they're staying at and expecting a response!!!
and i'm pretty sure your friends didn't run into him at his hotel and get hooked up with tickets lol good one tho. if that happened, he would tell them to check on twitter. he doesn't personally hold tickets on him. nice try, though. lying sack of sh!t.
starts at 2:40 ishComment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#271A little bit late to the party but just for clarification...
starts at 2:40 ishComment -
more_betternessSBR Sharp
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#272
Yeah tht was when he tweeted them. He was giving away a lot of tickets for 138, was handing them out in London as well even though event was in Birmingham! The place still had loads of empty seats when we were in there....they make out all these events sell out but really they dont.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#273STFU. I did respond to you when you asked me. I told you I had seen him fight in person and had seen him train. But you forget that bit of information, because it would get in the way of YET ANOTHER lie you're using against me.
Endless list, huh? That's why you're keep digging up arguments that don't even hold up???
Take some time and try to come up with a better lie.
For the record, my write-ups for the Shalorus and Papazian fights were spot-on, so those are terrible examples to use against me.
Gabetardification FTWComment -
fosho14SBR Wise Guy
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#274What does everyone for-see as the biggest lock on the card? or lock(s) should I say?. After weighing things down and mulling things over I feel most certain of Page. My next most confident pick is Okami.
I feel like Tiequan, Pettis, and Fukuda should also win and I will be putting money on them, but not as sure as the previous 2 already mentioned.
The rest of the card I am working on but not nearly confident enough to lay large amounts on anyone quite yet.Comment -
gabeSBR Hall of Famer
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#275A little bit late to the party but just for clarification...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mDcHx0NQ 4fY#!
starts at 2:40 ishYeah tht was when he tweeted them. He was giving away a lot of tickets for 138, was handing them out in London as well even though event was in Birmingham! The place still had loads of empty seats when we were in there....they make out all these events sell out but really they dont.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#276What does everyone for-see as the biggest lock on the card? or lock(s) should I say?. After weighing things down and mulling things over I feel most certain of Page. My next most confident pick is Okami.
I feel like Tiequan, Pettis, and Fukuda should also win and I will be putting money on them, but not as sure as the previous 2 already mentioned.
The rest of the card I am working on but not nearly confident enough to lay large amounts on anyone quite yet.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#277You are correct, Im sure he doesnt have tickets in his back pocket. But he also doesnt walk around alone everywhere. That dude u see in the video is with him 24/7 during fight week so was probably him who handed over the tickets, but Dana was stood with him on their way to the weigh-ins or some sh*t when people were given them. Ridiculous thing about tht event was that people had paid hundreds of pounds for the seats highest up, yet when we got to the arena there were about a dozen people selling middle-row tickets that they'd got off Dana (or his assistant) earlier in the day or day before for half the price of what people had paid for the cheapest seats online. A mate of mine was going to buy a ticket at the ticket office when we got in but managed to get 3 tickets for £60 outside the venue of some Scottish dudes which would of been £120 each online or at the office! Ended up with two spare tickets when we where in there!Comment -
badbeatbobbySBR Rookie
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#278Wow this thread just keeps giving and giving................Comment -
BeelzebubzySBR Hall of Famer
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#279Gabe is like the anti Jeremy Lin.
His name is only coined into negative terms.Comment -
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