what gabe says.

[gabe]

What Federer was -160 against Del Potro?

it was crazy. went from -900 against niemenn (who played better than del potro) to -160

del potro had been showing some struggles lately too, so it was surprising

[Vaughany]

I didnt bother lookin at it cos I thought he'd be -300 to -400 range

[gabe]

couple of my parlays for today:

Basketball - 804 Miami Heat -565 for Game
Basketball - 810 Indiana Pacers -675 for Game
Basketball - 818 Oklahoma City Thunder -400 for Game
Hockey - 14 Dallas Stars +1½ -250 for Game
Hockey - 17 Colorado Avalanche +1½ -260 for Game
Hockey - 20 Edmonton Oilers +1½ -225 for Game

$15 to win $56

Basketball - 804 Miami Heat -525 for Game
Basketball - 810 Indiana Pacers -685 for Game
Basketball - 812 Minnesota Timberwolves +1 -110 for Game
Basketball - 818 Oklahoma City Thunder -400 for Game
Tennis - 4262 Denis Istomin +3 +105 for Match
Tennis - 4708 Magdalena Rybarikova -175 for Match

$10 to win $95

[gabe]

for tomorrow:

Tennis - 4003 Nicolas Mahut -255 for Match
Tennis - 4011 Nikolay Davydenko -650 for Match
Tennis - 4016 Richard Gasquet -740 for Match
Tennis - 4025 Alexandr Dolgopolov -450 for Match
Tennis - 4201 John Isner -505 for Match
Tennis - 4203 Grigor Dimitrov -205 for Match
Tennis - 4706 Vera Dushevina -350 for Match
Tennis - 4728 Varvara Lepchenko -335 for Match

$19 to win $107

been hitting tons of 8 teamers lately

[gabe]

just noticed i had federer at -150, not -160... my bad...

[fosho14]

are zhang and fukuda complete locks?

[gabe]

wtf

[sideloaded]

gabe, you ever do mushrooms with Joey Diaz?

[gabe]

gabe, you ever do mushrooms with Joey Diaz?

lol no, i could have done them with ari shaffir tho-- i've still never done mushrooms.

[fosho14]

Fukuda is guaranteed lock

[gabe]

V, we've got a score to settle. You know I'm right and you have to admit it...

Being excited about the Papazian fight, in a thread, I said "Papazian will judo throw him and get an armbar or something" in the similar manner I would say "Griffin is gonna be dunkin' ALL over Howard ALL night tonight!!" if the Magic were playing the Clippers. Sure, it's POSSIBLE that could happen, but unlikely.

There was no exaggerated fan talk in the write-up for the fight I posted in my thread. I provided my actual thoughts on the fight, and it was clear that I liked the fight going the distance. The fact that you pin-pointed that line out and ignored my actual write-up of the fight is ridiculous. You should have compared that line vs my write-up of the fight. That is the first thing you should have done, and if you were curious, you should have asked me, "Gabe, so you're saying one thing in this thread, and another thing in your write-up... Which is it?" so I could have told you that was I said earlier was exaggerated fan talk and the fight more than likely will go to a decision.

I just think it's silly that you focused on that 1 line in that 1 thread and ignored everything else I said in every thread regarding that fight.

[gabe]

crap. istomin bit the dust.

[Vaughany]

V, we've got a score to settle. You know I'm right and you have to admit it...

Being excited about the Papazian fight, in a thread, I said "Papazian will judo throw him and get an armbar or something" in the similar manner I would say "Griffin is gonna be dunkin' ALL over Howard ALL night tonight!!" if the Magic were playing the Clippers. Sure, it's POSSIBLE that could happen, but unlikely.

There was no exaggerated fan talk in the write-up for the fight I posted in my thread. I provided my actual thoughts on the fight, and it was clear that I liked the fight going the distance. The fact that you pin-pointed that line out and ignored my actual write-up of the fight is ridiculous. You should have compared that line vs my write-up of the fight. That is the first thing you should have done, and if you were curious, you should have asked me, "Gabe, so you're saying one thing in this thread, and another thing in your write-up... Which is it?" so I could have told you that was I said earlier was exaggerated fan talk and the fight more than likely will go to a decision.

I just think it's silly that you focused on that 1 line in that 1 thread and ignored everything else I said in every thread regarding that fight.

You may well be right, but in the context of how you wrote it it doesnt look like you were just "being excited", it looks like you were pretty confident as you said "He'll" which is He will, which suggests certainty. The same with the not realising that Semerzier was a blue-belt who tapped out a black-belt in Wagney - from how you wrote it it does seem like you were saying Semerzier could never submit a black-belt. MoreBetterness agreed with me on that Im pretty sure 99% of other people who read that would agree. Maybe you did mean it completely differently as you explained though.

[Vaughany]

Istomin probably shouldnt be that big a dog, they might be getting carried away with Raonic hype. But Raonic is in hot form and his first serve percentages have been ridiculous all week

Bad luck, 44 of 48 points on his serve in the final, a 150mph ace...hard to beat Raonic when he's in that kind of form with his serve

[sideloaded]

lol no, i could have done them with ari shaffir tho-- i've still never done mushrooms.

[Vaughany]

lol

[gabe]

You may well be right, but in the context of how you wrote it it doesnt look like you were just "being excited", it looks like you were pretty confident as you said "He'll" which is He will, which suggests certainty. The same with the not realising that Semerzier was a blue-belt who tapped out a black-belt in Wagney - from how you wrote it it does seem like you were saying Semerzier could never submit a black-belt. MoreBetterness agreed with me on that Im pretty sure 99% of other people who read that would agree. Maybe you did mean it completely differently as you explained though.

Basically it's all a series of misunderstandings on your part. It's silly to say that I was saying Semerzier can't submit a black belt when I was responding to a post where you said he had submitted a black-belt. My post implied that if Semerzier can do it, I don't doubt Papazian can.

In my moment of excitement, would it have made sense if I said "Papazian MIGHT judo toss him and MAYBE get an armbar!" ??? that doesn't sound like exaggerated fan talk, it sounds like a fan who is unsure and unrealistic. Also wouldn't make sense if I said "Griffin MIGHT dunk all over Howard tonight!!" Nobody talks like that.

Point is you zeroed in on that one line in an unrelated thread and ignored everything else, including the actual prediction of the fight... which is very weird. You would have had an argument had I not publicly shared my thoughts on that fight on numerous occasions, but the fact that you knew how I felt about that fight and still tried to push that 1 line of exaggerated fan talk against me is ridiculous.

[Vaughany]

A misunderstanding maybe, but a misunderstanding that anybody else reading that would make...we cant all mind read how you actually mean things when you write them. The fact that you also said he might sub him in your "actual prediction" only further enhances it

[gabe]

A misunderstanding maybe, but a misunderstanding that anybody else reading that would make...we cant all mind read how you actually mean things when you write them. The fact that you also said he might sub him in your "actual prediction" only further enhances it

Yeah, I did say that I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a submission, but did mention it's not very likely. But yes, I could see how you could use that against me before the fight, but reviewing everything I said now, after the fight doesn't work... because the fight proved that had he not been in a dogfight mindset and had decided to apply some judo, you can't argue that it could have been the deciding factor in him getting the decision.

[Grabaka]

Bro...it is clear to me this round was won by vaughany because you were denying to ever written that and v was showing you the quote and the discussion switched after.
I like you Gabe so i wont be trying to start an argument but sometimes as V said you just read whatever you want to read from it and switch it. Please dont ask me for an example because im lazy and i wont be looking for it but let me tell you something. Dont be so much on the defensive. You CAN learn a lot from everyone here if you keep your mind open. I know i have (on other forum but same shit)

You have proven you have good picks. You have proven you are willing to study the fights more than some great cappers and have better picks. Why are you so willing to discuss when they tell you how to maximize your profits? Does your friends outside internet stop their shit and do that for you?

I think you have hard time listening to criticism or publicly accept it but i think you listen good and learn from it. I have that impression because i think i have seen you switch some things on how you bet.

Its pretty hard to read what you usually say (as a bettor) because you call locks where you see a lot of value and shit like that that usually confuses other people as to how much you trust x fighter to win, how much value you see and thing like that. Its hard to take you seriously (as a bettor again) because you have to take it as a grain of salt.
Beliiiiieve me bro. I have been guilty of this before and may not be the last so im not preaching. I think the best for everyone is to move on from this. I think V respects your comments (i do) but he wont tail you ever until you learn more of those betting tips and how to communicate where you see a good investments better that "hell toss him and armbar him" or whatever.

As i said before i like you and all i hope is peace, mma talk and good bets for everyone. I might be wrong on some shit but we can all learn.

[Educ8d Degener8]

Bro...it is clear to me this round was won by vaughany...

Adelaide Byrd awarded the round to Gabe.

[Vaughany]

lol

[gabe]

Bro...it is clear to me this round was won by vaughany because you were denying to ever written that

When he first mentioned it, I did not remember saying it. Have you been reading our posts? How many times did I mention it was exaggerated fan talk??? I'm supposed to remember every little thing I say while talking on an internet forum, especially given that I'm stoned 100% of the time I come on here? That line was from a random thread that was irrelevant to the Papazian fight and I didn't remember saying it. If you've been reading the posts, you should have noticed that I made him link me because I couldn't remember nor find where I said that, though I didn't deny saying it. Saying "I'm sure I said it, but link me" is NOT denial- he had taken what I said out of context. If you've been following the post, you should know all this. If you have then I don't know what to say to you.

[gabe]

You have proven you have good picks. You have proven you are willing to study the fights more than some great cappers and have better picks. Why are you so willing to discuss when they tell you how to maximize your profits? Does your friends outside internet stop their shit and do that for you?

Please tell me when V has told me how to maximize my profits. I don't consider insulting me helps maximize my profits. This entire argument started with him insulting me, and he was proven wrong on BOTH accounts.

1) I didn't remember the Papazian line, because it was from an related thread and not from my prediction of the fight, which is what I assumed he was quoting me from. (if you're gonna quote me predicting the fight, why would you use a quote from a random thread and NOT my ACTUAL prediction?!?? either you're retarded or you're a geek trying to play internet bully- or possibly both)

2) Pretty sure I won argument regarding the Shalarus fight since he had nothing else to say besides "you're right," so he dropped it. I was giving my thoughts on Nurmagomedov's fight and mentioned that his opponent has a good training camp as part of the quick description I made for his opponent. My entire thoughts on the fight were only a paragraph, I wasn't gonna spend another paragraph talking about how the opponent of the guy I picked had a good camp when I didn't even provide that information about the guy I'm ACTUALLY picking! Just because he wasn't satisfied with the manner in which I provided my thoughts for the fight, he chose to mock and insult me. I'm not cool with that. That's weak shit.

I think you have hard time listening to criticism or publicly accept it

Not true. I accept criticism, not insults. There's a big difference.

Someone said I was funny, V responded saying I'm funny like a retard. -- I'm gonna use that to help win more money for UFC 144.

Someone complimented me on the thoughts I give on the fights, and V began insulting me on that... THAT I will certainly use to profit this weekend!

[Rubber Guard]

Tailing Gabe all day on UFC 144!

I see the fire in his eyes!

[BIGDAY]

Tailing Gabe all day on UFC 144!

I see the fire in his eyes!

Agreed. I see Gabe going 5-0 or something. Gabe, when are the selections coming...

[Vaughany]

When he first mentioned it, I did not remember saying it. Have you been reading our posts? How many times did I mention it was exaggerated fan talk??? I'm supposed to remember every little thing I say while talking on an internet forum, especially given that I'm stoned 100% of the time I come on here? That line was from a random thread that was irrelevant to the Papazian fight and I didn't remember saying it. If you've been reading the posts, you should have noticed that I made him link me because I couldn't remember nor find where I said that, though I didn't deny saying it. Saying "I'm sure I said it, but link me" is NOT denial- he had taken what I said out of context. If you've been following the post, you should know all this. If you have then I don't know what to say to you.

You flat out denied saying it Gabe, we've been through this

[Vaughany]

What happens if we have the same picks tho?!

[gabe]

You flat out denied saying it Gabe, we've been through this

Did you not read what I said??? Yes, I denied the INITIAL time because it was from an unrelated thread and it was exaggerated fan talk and not a prediction, so of course I didn't remember it and denied it, but then you posted the quote from my actual post, at that point I believed you (because I'm a Papazian fan, so it's likely I talked him up) and asked you to link me to where I said it, knowing very well you took it out of context, which it turned out YOU DID. I didn't deny something you quoted from a prediction, I denied exaggerated fan talk you quoted from an unrelated thread, simply because I knew for a fact that was not part of my prediction, which IS THE ONLY thing you can use when discussing my prediction on said fight. Pulling random lines from unrelated threads where my prediction says something completely different makes no sense.

[gabe]

Agreed. I see Gabe going 5-0 or something. Gabe, when are the selections coming...

Like I said, I'm not posting them anymore. I used to look forward to posting 'em, now it feels like a hassle.

What happens if we have the same picks tho?!

I think we're on all the same guys.

[Vaughany]

Did you not read what I said??? Yes, I denied the INITIAL time because it was from an unrelated thread and it was exaggerated fan talk and not a prediction, so of course I didn't remember it and denied it, but then you posted the quote from my actual post, at that point I believed you (because I'm a Papazian fan, so it's likely I talked him up) and asked you to link me to where I said it, knowing very well you took it out of context, which it turned out YOU DID. I didn't deny something you quoted from a prediction, I denied exaggerated fan talk you quoted from an unrelated thread, simply because I knew for a fact that was not part of my prediction, which IS THE ONLY thing you can use when discussing my prediction on said fight. Pulling random lines from unrelated threads where my prediction says something completely different makes no sense.

Okay, well I'm gonna say in this thread that Ben Henderson is going to win and probably sub Frankie. But if it doesn't happen it wont count because in my actual thread Im gonna say that the fight is going to go the distance, and obviously everything is else is rendered irrelevant if it's said outside of my "official prediction" in my main thread. If it does happen I definitely wont refer to what I predicted in this thread just like I'm sure you wouldn't of had Papazian won by sub.

[gabe]

Okay, well I'm gonna say in this thread that Ben Henderson is going to win and probably sub Frankie. But if it doesn't happen it wont count because in my actual thread Im gonna say that the fight is going to go the distance, and obviously everything is else is rendered irrelevant if it's said outside of my "official prediction" in my main thread. If it does happen I definitely wont refer to what I predicted in this thread just like I'm sure you wouldn't of had Papazian won by sub.

Um, my prediction clearly stated that I could see Papazian winning by sub.

And I don't think "I think Ben Henderson is gonna win and probably sub Frankie" counts as exaggerated fan talk. It sounds like a prediction. If you said "Bendo is gonna smash Frankie and break his arm off!" would be more like it.

If you say that, I'm gonna think "OK, this guy really likes Henderson and expects him to win" I'm not gonna think "What a silly prediction!" because I'm smarter than that, wish I could say the same for you.

[BIGDAY]

Like I said, I'm not posting them anymore. I used to look forward to posting 'em, now it feels like a hassle.

GL on your wagers.

[gabe]

Milos Raonic -475
Janko Tipsaveric -650
Kei Nishikori -210
Yushin Okami -325
Cheick Kongo -325

$40 to win $101

[Vitooch]

Im going to stop being hostile towards you gabe and begin our new friendship (crossing my fingers) with a BOL this Saturday. This back and forth between you and V is silly and we should try to get along.