Prop Joe's Bets Thread

[proposition joe]

shots on me

[Vaughany]

1/14/12 - UFC 142

Vitor Belfort (-115) to risk 2300


Thanks to all Rumble supporters for the awesome line.

[proposition joe]

Thanks bud. It was a good night. Going against overly hyped fighters is without a doubt the best way to make money betting on MMA.
Both Cerrone and Rumble are good examples of people overestimating guys for dominating shitty fighters. I'm not trying to rub it in to their supporters but it's not all that hard to spot these soon to be derailed hypetrains. Elite new guys like Rory and others are obviously hyped guys to avoid betting against, but it's crazy how often slightly above average guys are acclaimed to be "elite" for no apparent reason.

[gabe]

WHOA WHOA WHOA-- The ONLY reason Rumble lost that fight was 'cos he wasn't fully hydrated and healed up. When have you EVER seen him tire out that quick?

Rumble is a very talented fighter, if healthy. His skills are not over-estimated. Neither are Cerrone's. Cerrone lost that fight not because he didn't have the skills to win, but because he was too dumb to use them properly. He's a good wrestler and wrestling is the Diaz brothers' weakness. He avoided wrestling altogether simply because Diaz told him "You better not try none of that gay wrestling shit." So stupid.

Also, he could have done a lot more with his kicks. Cerrone's 4 UFC victories have been amazing. You can't say the guy is over-hyped. He finished 3 of 4 fights in 1 year and went the distance with Nate.

[gabe]

Thank god I actually have a bit of knowledge in mma gabe

if every fighter you bet against is unhealthy going into the fight, then your knowledge should be enough.

[Vaughany]

WHOA WHOA WHOA-- The ONLY reason Rumble lost that fight was 'cos he wasn't fully hydrated and healed up. When have you EVER seen him tire out that quick?

How can you be so sure of that tho? If he had been fully hydrated and healed up he might of stood for longer and ended up getting TKO'd/KO'd anyway! He tired out and gave up against Koscheck and Clementi in the second - two fighters tht like Belfort pressured Rumble and made him wilt.

[gabe]

I honestly believe that Vitor can't last 2 full rounds with a healthy Rumble. Rumble dominated until he got tired.

Also, ref standing them back up was a bad call, as Dana White himself said.

I had my fingers crossed that he would get a TKO before he tires out. Sucks.

[Vaughany]

I honestly believe that Vitor can't last 2 full rounds with a healthy Rumble. Rumble dominated until he got tired.

Also, ref standing them back up was a bad call, as Dana White himself said.

I had my fingers crossed that he would get a TKO before he tires out. Sucks.

Agree that the stand-ups where quicker than usual for sure

[proposition joe]

I disagree with you gabe. Rumble Johnson should have never been at -115 against Vitor Belfort. And Cerrone should have never been -275 against Diaz. Anyone who argues otherwise, especially about Cerrone, is CRAZY.

[proposition joe]

And I think that it became obvious fairly quickly that Rumble could do nothing from Vitor's guard.

[Beelzebubzy]

Congrats Prop Joe.

[proposition joe]

Congrats Prop Joe.

Thanks bud. Tough luck on Stout, I thought he should've won myself.

[proposition joe]

Why you liking omigawa, joe?

I was planning to go large on alcantra... what's your breakdown??? Gracias.

good call buddy

[Beelzebubzy]

Thanks bud. Tough luck on Stout, I thought he should've won myself.

I scored it for Tavares. I hedged out and only lost about 1.2u on Stout, total event was down -.7u

[proposition joe]

1/14/12 - UFC 142

Vitor Belfort (-115) to risk 2300


Thanks to all Rumble supporters for the awesome line.

UFC 142 Results = + $2150

Thread totals = + $3258.75

[proposition joe]

1/28/2012 - UFC on Fox 2

Rashad Evans (-145) to win 1000

Demian Maia (+170) to risk 500

[Vaughany]

1/28/2012 - UFC on Fox 2

Rashad Evans (-145) to win 1000

Nice to see u've joined the club !

[gabe]

I'm on Mr. WOOOOONDERFUL!!!!

[Beelzebubzy]

1/28/2012 - UFC on Fox 2 Rashad Evans (-145) to win 1000

Happy to see you are on the Evans side.

Same logic as Belfort/Johnson?

[bjpenn85]

Are you rich? Didnt you loose 1200 dollars last night on AJ?

[proposition joe]

Are you rich? Didnt you loose 1200 dollars last night on AJ?

Huh? Belfort was my biggest play to date.

[proposition joe]

Happy to see you are on the Evans side.

Same logic as Belfort/Johnson?

Kinda. I don't necessarily think that Davis is overhyped but this is a terrible stylistic matchup for him. Rashad should be able to stuff the takedowns and let loose with his hands. I thought that Rashad looked better against Ortiz than ever before and Davis really didn't look too great against Lil Nog. This being a 5-rounder pretty much seals the deal. I see Rashad as somewhere close to -300.

[gabe]

i lost big on aj and was ultimately a losing night, but barely. didn't lose much. mighta broke even w/ MMA- (thanks to the palhares fluke w/ my book, otherwise i woulda been down a lot more) broncos not covering my teaser spread is what hurt me.

[bjpenn85]

Sorry, that message was suppose to be to gabe.

[bjpenn85]

so you lost 1200 dollar on AJ, but won them back with a play on palhares after the bell that covered the loss? evidence please? it sounds unlikely.

[proposition joe]

Sorry, that message was suppose to be to gabe.

No worries

[gabe]

so you lost 1200 dollar on AJ, but won them back with a play on palhares after the bell that covered the loss? evidence please? it sounds unlikely.

Won on Aldo + Inside 4.5 round, also. Was still a losing night, though.

This is the last time I go out of my way to prove myself to you fools...



See? Time stamp is long after the fight.

[NunyaBidness]

Wow, dirty. Maybe next time you're having a losing night you can rob old ladies purses, too.

[gabe]

Wow, dirty. Maybe next time you're having a losing night you can rob old ladies purses, too.

Yeah, that's totally the same as taking from a book. lmao

I would have taken advantage of that opportunity whether I was having a losing night or not. Its Me vs the book - not me vs old ladies lol

[gabe]

Nunya, would Marty McFly steal from old ladies purses just because he wanted take the Sports Almanac back with him?!

[Vaughany]

Wow, dirty. Maybe next time you're having a losing night you can rob old ladies purses, too.

Yeah, that's totally the same as taking from a book. lmao

I would have taken advantage of that opportunity whether I was having a losing night or not. Its Me vs the book - not me vs old ladies lol

“To me in life you're either one of two. You're either a hustler or you're being hustled” - Billy Walters

[Mr Handicapable]

Rumble was prob 20 lbs bigger than Koshchek and got thrown around and choked out.....now he's at 197 for weigh in? It didn't take a rocket scientist to tell that he wasn't that dedicated and would crumble at first resistance.

[proposition joe]

1/21/12 - UFC on FX 1

Melvin Guillad (+150) to risk 1000

Jared Papazian (+265) to risk 1000

Kamal Shalorus (-130) to win 200

[proposition joe]

I've been waiting to fade Mike Easton and am absolutely ecstatic about getting Papazian as such a huge dog. Wow. As I've stated before, I like Guillard to win and am surprised to get him as a dog as well. Shalorus should be closer to -200.

[gabe]

1/21/12 - UFC on FX 1

Melvin Guillad (+150) to risk 1000

Jared Papazian (+265) to risk 500

Kamal Shalorus (-130) to win 200

Love the Papazian bet, hate the Kamal bet. He's gonna get submitted quick!