mayhem miller against bisping

travismcilrath · 09-28-11, 03:05 AM

both very good but he submits better miller that is

travismcilrath · 09-28-11, 03:05 AM

both really mouthy too

travismcilrath · 09-28-11, 03:06 AM

do you all like the new ultimate fighter

travismcilrath · 09-28-11, 03:07 AM

tough competition

Semt3x · 09-28-11, 07:38 AM

Please leave

Vaughany · 09-28-11, 07:43 AM

Why

Vaughany · 09-28-11, 07:44 AM

..do

Vaughany · 09-28-11, 07:44 AM

you

Vaughany · 09-28-11, 07:46 AM

have

Vaughany · 09-28-11, 07:47 AM

..to

Vaughany · 09-28-11, 07:48 AM

.do

Vaughany · 09-28-11, 07:50 AM

this!

JuicedUp · 09-28-11, 10:53 AM

MMAbetMASTA · 09-28-11, 08:29 PM

lol at above posts...

On a serious note, I agree with ts and I like miller for sure... However, hopefully my reasoning isn't a result of my intense bias and hate for Mr. Bisping....

kmdubya · 09-28-11, 09:35 PM

Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA

lol at above posts...

On a serious note, I agree with ts and I like miller for sure... However, hopefully my reasoning isn't a result of my intense bias and hate for Mr. Bisping....

I have to lay off this fight because I DO have too much of a hate on for Bisping. Clouds my judgement.

Squareguy · 09-29-11, 11:17 PM

I like Miller in this one too.

I bet he comes out as a nice underdog too.

NunyaBidness · 09-29-11, 11:48 PM

Originally posted by Squareguy

I like Miller in this one too.

I bet he comes out as a nice underdog too.

I bet he opens at +180 at 5dimes and then gets bet down a little. I bet when he opens at Pinny, money comes in on Bisping!

Mikail · 09-29-11, 11:55 PM

I will be the one to disagree. I like Miller as a fighter and I don't like Bisping but brass tacks, Michael Bisping will defeat Mayhem Miller IMO

Vaughany · 09-30-11, 02:16 AM

Originally posted by Squareguy

I like Miller in this one too.

I bet he comes out as a nice underdog too.

The odds have been out for months?! Miller is +165 to +180 range

The HOFF · 09-30-11, 03:27 AM

It appears that Miller has a decent size advantage.

Das Jax · 09-30-11, 10:19 AM

I'm not real familiar with Miller's record... I know he's got great BJJ, but how's his chin?

Vaughany · 09-30-11, 10:43 AM

His chin is solid, tko'd once in his career from soccer kicks that I doubt many fighters could take! He's a crazy dude so gettin punched doesnt faze him! Bisping's only chance to win is by picking him apart and winning a decision IMO.

Poppa Catfish · 09-30-11, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

His chin is solid, tko'd once in his career from soccer kicks that I doubt many fighters could take! He's a crazy dude so gettin punched doesnt faze him! Bisping's only chance to win is by picking him apart and winning a decision IMO.

Which is pretty much what I think will happen. Miller is a very game fighter so it should be a competitive fight, but no matter how much I'd like Bisping to lose in this spot, my money has to go on Bisping by decision here.

Educ8d Degener8 · 09-30-11, 11:54 AM

I'm so conflicted here... hate Bisping, like Mayhem...

But, want Bisping to win such that the rumored Bisping vs Spider match may happen.

'Cos that would certainly be fun to watch.

The HOFF · 09-30-11, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8

I'm so conflicted here... hate Bisping, like Mayhem...

But, want Bisping to win such that the rumored Bisping vs Spider match may happen.

'Cos that would certainly be fun to watch.

I'm not sure I want to see that fight because I seriously would not be able to stop myself from putting my whole bankroll on Silva. And that's just poor money management.

NunyaBidness · 09-30-11, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by The HOFF

I'm not sure I want to see that fight because I seriously would not be able to stop myself from putting my whole bankroll on Silva. And that's just poor money management.

No doubt. I can't even imagine the line on that fight. -1000 at least.

Educ8d Degener8 · 09-30-11, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by The HOFF

I'm not sure I want to see that fight because I seriously would not be able to stop myself from putting my whole bankroll on Silva. And that's just poor money management.

Another downside would be the UFC getting bad publicity after Bisping lost via referee stoppage due to death.

SportsPedagogy · 09-30-11, 09:00 PM

My friend Gabe used to train with Miller at Quest, says he has great skills but he is really cocky. I ran into Miller and joe Rogan after Rogans standup last friday in denver, Miller is really big. Bigger then i thought.....I think he Miller has good value.

travismcilrath · 10-02-11, 08:31 PM

lol he is kind of a dooch

TheCalculator · 11-20-11, 05:30 PM

This fight's coming up -- I think Miller has great value here. Even at EV odds -- I might even bet Miller.

He almost beat Shields. He certainly has an edge with the grappling. I think he will clinch with Bisping against the cage -- get takedowns and possibly even sink a submission. He had Shields in a choke (deep) and the only thing that saved Jake was the bell ringing at the end of the 3rd.

Also -- I think Miller has really matured in the last year or so. He's still crazy -- but he's more serious and focused. He's also training his ass off with Munoz and the crew. He's also a VERY big middleweight. Here's a video from June:

http://youtu.be/JNFqQJeDBS4

Vaughany · 11-20-11, 05:36 PM

Yep the value is clearly with Miller here. If not then Fight goes distance/ Bisping by decision, find it very hard to imagine Bisping finishing Miller

TheCalculator · 11-20-11, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Yep the value is clearly with Miller here. If not then Fight goes distance/ Bisping by decision, find it very hard to imagine Bisping finishing Miller

That's the plan on the hedge bro! Great to have a move validated by the master!

Mikail · 11-20-11, 05:55 PM

"Meyhem" keeps saying on Ultimate Fighter he's gonna knockout Bisping. lol Is he serious or just physching out Bisping and planning a submission victory or decision? I wonder.

Vaughany · 11-20-11, 06:15 PM

Originally posted by Mikail

"Meyhem" keeps saying on Ultimate Fighter he's gonna knockout Bisping. lol Is he serious or just physching out Bisping and planning a submission victory or decision? I wonder.

Yeah just bravado I'd imagine! Bisping also saying that he's gonna knock Mayhem out, but we all know that he'll probably be on his bike circling for three rounds.