UFC on Versus 5

[The HOFF]

Date: Aug 14, 2011
Location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Venue: Bradley Center
Broadcast: Versus

• Dan Hardy vs. Chris Lytle
• Ben Henderson vs. Jim Miller
• Cole Miller vs. T.J. O'Brien
• Duane Ludwig vs. Amir Sadollah
• Stephan Bonnar vs. Karlos Vemola
• Danny Castillo vs. Jacob Volkmann

[The HOFF]

Henderson vs Miller should be an awesome fight. If Pettis loses to Guida, I'd have to say the winner of this fight should get the next title shot.

[brooks85]

ya that is an awesome matchup and card is looking good for Versus

miller/henderson should definitely be the main event

[Vaughany]

Be funny if Lytle just took Hardy down and tapped hiim in first round...no doubt tht Hardy would moan again about expecting "a fight" and being let down by the opponent!

[v1y]

i think jim miller's going to win, but not sure if i'd bet on him at anything more than -150

i expect sadollah to be about -300, and i'll put a little on that.

[bjpenn85]

I actually think ben henderson wins. Based on bocek. Miller had trouble with bocek, not only on the ground. But with stuffing takedowns his physics, everything really. Ben henderson dominated bocek. I may be completely off here, but what do you guys think? it has to be disturbing betting on miller looking how little trounble henderson had with bocek...

I myself was convinced that bockek would defeat henderson.

[Vaughany]

I actually think ben henderson wins. Based on bocek. Miller had trouble with bocek, not only on the ground. But with stuffing takedowns his physics, everything really. Ben henderson dominated bocek. I may be completely off here, but what do you guys think? it has to be disturbing betting on miller looking how little trounble henderson had with bocek...

I myself was convinced that bockek would defeat henderson.

Pretty much a flip of the coin! I'll be taking fight goes distance most probably, both have good chins, cardio for days, and great sub defence....although Henderson's sub defence is still not entirely clear, he tends to get in to vulnerable positions at times and offers the chance of a guillotine at least once in every fight...a submission tht Jim Miller likes, and he is pretty clinical with any submission attempt. On the flipside, MIller tends to get taken down against anybody with decent wrestling, Bocek and Tibau each landed 4 takedowns I believe in their fights with him...not sure if he doesn't have the best TD defence or if he just feels comfortable on his back (bit of both I guess), but problem is if Henderson does get takedowns and avoid gettin subbed it's gonna favour him if it goes to decison.
If one is at a reasonable + number which I expect will be Henderson I might take it...I just don't envisage Miller getting finished, dude is tough as hell!

[Vaughany]

Reinhardt vs Figueroa...how is Reinhardt still in the UFC!!!??

[Ladle]

Reinhardt vs Figueroa...how is Reinhardt still in the UFC!!!??

My thoughts exactly. I'm guessing they plan on using him as fodder to legitimize a potentially decent featherweight in Figueroa.

[bjpenn85]

I like reinhardts voice. Poor washed up guy. He is def in is 40s crisis (correct term?)

[Ladle]

I like reinhardts voice. Poor washed up guy. He is def in is 40s crisis (correct term?)

Mid-life crisis.

I'm sure Jason will be okay. He'll go back to beating up 0-10 scrubs soon enough.

[Vaughany]

hahaha Was hilarious when he came out against the Mongolian Wolf all pumped up and kept saying "WATCH THIS...WATCH THIS" in to the camera...then proceeded to get choked out within 30 seconds!!!

[bjpenn85]

I think henderson is stronger, better wrestler, is better in the clinch. In a very even contest that is crucial. I think it will be henderson, hedged with miller sub. I often go back and forth on these types of fight, but this is my initial conclusion

[The HOFF]

Two-time "Fight of the Night" winner Jared Hamman is dropping to 185 pounds, and C.B. Dollaway will be the first to welcome him to the division.

UFC officials today announced the matchup, which takes place at UFC on Versus 5.

[The HOFF]

Bantamweight contender Joseph Benavidez and former WEC titleholder Eddie Wineland have agreed to meet at August's UFC on Versus 5 event.

[The HOFF]

An intriguing bout between Alex "Bruce Leroy" Caceres and fellow featherweight Leonard Garcia had been added to August's UFC on Versus 5 lineup.

UFC officials today announced that verbal agreements are in place for the fight.

[Vaughany]

An intriguing bout between Alex "Bruce Leroy" Caceres and fellow featherweight Leonard Garcia had been added to August's UFC on Versus 5 lineup.

UFC officials today announced that verbal agreements are in place for the fight.

Two biggest clowns in UFC one on one!

[Ladle]

I didn't think I'd ever say this, but Leonard Garcia might finally have a clear-cut victory.

[v1y]

I didn't think I'd ever say this, but Leonard Garcia might finally have a clear-cut victory.

that is a tough fight to decide who i want to lose more.

[The HOFF]

Come on now. Caceres is a complete douche. Everyone should want him to lose. Garcia comes to fight and is extremely entertaining. You can't hate Garcia for bad judging, he just fights.

[Shane]

I'm a bit surprised Caceres hasn't been cut. He's shown nothing. Garcia is easy money (did I really just type that?)

[The HOFF]

MAIN CARD (Versus)

• Dan Hardy vs. Chris Lytle
• Ben Henderson vs. Jim Miller
• Donald Cerrone vs. Charles Oliveira
• Duane Ludwig vs. Amir Sadollah

PRELIMINARY CARD

• C.B. Dollaway vs. Jared Hamman
• Joseph Benavidez vs. Eddie Wineland
• Ed Herman vs. Kyle Noke
• Ronny Markes vs. Karlos Vemola
• Alex Caceres vs. Leonard Garcia
• Cole Miller vs. T.J. O'Brien
• Danny Castillo vs. Jacob Volkmann
• Edwin Figueroa vs. Jason Reinhardt

[stefan084]

Hardy vs Lytle goes distance at -180 at 5d? Doesn't go distance at +140. that doesn't sound right to me--any help here? maybe more wrestling than I am initially thinking? They both usually swing for the fences.

[Ladle]

Hardy vs Lytle goes distance at -180 at 5d? Doesn't go distance at +140. that doesn't sound right to me--any help here? maybe more wrestling than I am initially thinking? They both usually swing for the fences.

Neither are really one-shot kill artists, and both have fairly decent chins. Lytle could tap Hardy, but it's hard to gauge how much grappling we're going to see in this fight. I think the current lines are pretty fair.

[Hannibal]

I'd gladly take wineland as a dog against benevidez.
Faber had trouble with him... Mini faber with less skills will have even more trouble.

[Vaughany]

MAIN CARD (Versus)

[*]Edwin Figueroa vs. Jason Reinhardt[/LIST]

Big question is, who else thinks there is value in Figueroa up to -350! Cant believe Reinhardt is gettin another chance!

[The HOFF]

Big question is, who else thinks there is value in Figueroa up to -350! Cant believe Reinhardt is gettin another chance!

Absolutely. Maybe I'll just parlay him with any other play I have on the card.

[The HOFF]

An injury has forced Leonard Garcia out of this month's UFC on Versus 5 fight with Alex "Bruce Leroy" Caceres.

In his place steps undefeated featherweight newcomer Jim Hettes, UFC officials today announced.

[Vaughany]

ha Looks like I'll be parlayin Hettes with Figueroa! Two weakest guys in the UFC in Bruce Leroy and Reinhardt both on same card IMO

[ghost kid]

V

you guys have solid opinions and lots of people read these boards

you should reconsider before posting strong leans early (prior to odds being out)

I think it kind of affected the Strikeforce openers to be honest

Just my opinion - it's a smaller community than you think

Best of luck this weekend

[FightFightFight]

Definitely one of the sharps, V. If you're in it for the money, its good advice. Its easier than you think. Most lines are opened early enough to chat about them in length.

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

No sleep after UFC 133, Versus 5 is a week away

[The Bet Master]

Really leaning toward Cerrone. I'll see how I feel in a week

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

Sadolah odds out, he should have an easy time with Ludwig

[bjpenn85]

really leaning towards oliveira.