UFC 121 10/23 - Brock vs Cain

westerner · 10-23-10, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by brooks85

I couldnt imagine ever backing a fighter because of something a trainer/partner says(unless it is negative) but Im sure people do it.

the world of MMA would be way different if fighters all fought to 100% their training form in actual fights. most guys train way better than they fight.

Originally posted by Vaughany

I agree, its not all about wrestling, more specifically with regard to boxing, it's the fact that guys like Edgar know how to use angles, good footwork and head movement (speed) which not many fighters in UFC are proficient in.

People who think boxing is just punching really don't know shit. Punching is like 15-20% of boxing, most of it is stance, footwork and distance. After that there is blocking, timing, balance, speed then punching. The punches come from doing all the other stuff right

Its funny how guys with poor to average boxing skills just ******* decimate most of their opponents in MMA because the level of boxing is so garbage in this sport. I can't help but looking down on MMA cuz of it.

spartiatis · 10-23-10, 04:18 PM

No way Brock is getting knocked out today - Cain's shots are not getting past that fierce beard.

jacktheknife · 10-23-10, 06:40 PM

Wow. Real glad I didn't go with sherdog on Yvel now. Gj lasker.

lasker · 10-23-10, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by jacktheknife

Wow. Real glad I didn't go with sherdog on Yvel now. Gj lasker.

Thanks jtk, good start to the night!

jacktheknife · 10-23-10, 07:04 PM

Check out Vaug's title and add about 15 exclamation points.

THE_LOCKSMITH · 10-23-10, 08:57 PM

how crazy is that, during McGee/Jensen fight you here all these boooooo, Rogan says its because Koscheck just came in the building. Next thing you know GSP chants come out, lol. This is in Cali where Kos now lives and trains, and they still hate him there.

rocky mattioli · 10-23-10, 09:02 PM

i thought that jensen`s lack of cardio(basically done after a round and a half of not to intense stand-up) was disgraceful......

to get a big chance in the ufc and gas out like that after domnating the 1st......that was absolutely lame....

they don`t fight one rounders,dude....

Glitch · 10-23-10, 11:26 PM

brock gets dominated and loses by tko in the first round.

POTVINSUX · 10-23-10, 11:28 PM

Brock literally got opened up by Cain

NYSportsGuy210 · 10-23-10, 11:29 PM

I called it. Cain is a beast. Brock not agile enough...he has trouble with guys his own size as was the case in the Shane Carwin fight.

jram68 · 10-23-10, 11:31 PM

WTF Lesnar didnt put up much of a fight. I say he got paid to take a beating. There no way he should have gone down like that and he just stayed down and didnt fight back. somethings fishy

Vrakas · 10-23-10, 11:31 PM

i called cain to win but i expected brock to go 5 rounds.

JuicedUp · 10-23-10, 11:34 PM

Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210

Cain is a beast.

GoldRush7 · 10-24-10, 08:55 AM

Time to eat my words, well done cain.

fukredsCOACH · 10-24-10, 09:13 AM

Originally posted by jram68

WTF Lesnar didnt put up much of a fight. I say he got paid to take a beating. There no way he should have gone down like that and he just stayed down and didnt fight back. somethings fishy

Lol fishy did you see the carwin fight?Now he meet someone whos smarter and have more gas.You saw in the Carwin fight that Brock is so scared when he fight,when you so sacred like him you forget everything called gameplan

Pratik · 10-24-10, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by jacktheknife

Wow. Real glad I didn't go with sherdog on Yvel now. Gj lasker.

yeah and plus when odds opened up for Madsen at -125 i was like wtf where did they get that number? especially when Rothewell was taking Yvel down with ease the whole 3 rounds.

Vaughany · 10-24-10, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by Pratik

yeah and plus when odds opened up for Madsen at -125 i was like wtf where did they get that number? especially when Rothewell was taking Yvel down with ease the whole 3 rounds.

ha yeah -125 was ridiculous!

36mafia · 10-24-10, 12:15 PM

all in all, was one of the best ufc cards in the few months.

sanchez showed some fuckin heart out there last night. sucks to say he wont be competitive with the top 5 ufc ww, but i love to watch him fight

Vaughany · 10-25-10, 11:18 AM

Another terrible judging performance in Stout vs Taylor in case anybody hasnt seen it:
http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_UFC_...013767&tid=100 (Part 1)
http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_UFC_...013768&tid=100 (Part 2)

Conan · 10-25-10, 02:46 PM

Not only am i pleased with Cain beating Brock because it was the bet i took but now hopefully people will stop trying to build him up as a god calling him better then some of the sports all time best like Fedor

Pabinator · 10-25-10, 03:02 PM

I got all my picks right that night except for the Brock fight. Cain did his thing, I think Brock had a horrible gameplan. But I still think he can beat the over rated Fedor !

Kaladarus · 10-25-10, 06:16 PM

I think Brock had the only game plan he's ever used. Take his opponent down and hold him there. Unfortunately, when that's the only thing you can do in a fight and have no other skills it becomes very hard to beat someone with any type of takedown defence. Lesnar's been exposed before, but Velasquez showed everyone exactly how bad Brock's MMA game is.

lasker · 10-25-10, 06:44 PM

Originally posted by Pabinator

I got all my picks right that night except for the Brock fight. Cain did his thing, I think Brock had a horrible gameplan. But I still think he can beat the over rated Fedor !

Originally posted by Kaladarus

I think Brock had the only game plan he's ever used. Take his opponent down and hold him there. Unfortunately, when that's the only thing you can do in a fight and have no other skills it becomes very hard to beat someone with any type of takedown defence. Lesnar's been exposed before, but Velasquez showed everyone exactly how bad Brock's MMA game is.

Actually not a bad gameplan, given his skills and weaknesses really the only viable gameplan, but the "hold him there" part needed some work. He got overanxious after taking Cain down. After the first takedown he immediately sought to pass to side control, rather than taking his time and holding him down (if possible), and it gave Cain enough space to stand back up quickly.

THE_LOCKSMITH · 10-27-10, 05:32 PM

Patrick cote has been released

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Vaughany · 10-27-10, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH

Patrick cote has been released

http://www.mmamania.com/2010/10/27/1...ote-cut-by-ufc

Really gettin to the point wer if ur only legit in one aspect ur pretty much fu**ed! All these UFC semi-veterans like Cote are starting to fall victim to this now.

Kaladarus · 10-27-10, 05:42 PM

I agree, MMA has evolved way too much for some of these old school fighters.

THE_LOCKSMITH · 10-27-10, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Really gettin to the point wer if ur only legit in one aspect ur pretty much fu**ed! All these UFC semi-veterans like Cote are starting to fall victim to this now.

So how much Longer does Tito Ortiz have, made 250K for his loss. PostFight he said he wasn't even close to retiring

brad89 · 10-27-10, 06:49 PM

I heard he had 3 or 4 fights left on his contract (if that means anything lol)

snake11eyes · 10-27-10, 06:59 PM

Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH

So how much Longer does Tito Ortiz have, made 250K for his loss. PostFight he said he wasn't even close to retiring

Ortiz doesn't follow the same rule as other fighters. He will fight as long as he wants. He is a moneymaker for the ufc similar to Liddell.