UFC 121 10/23 - Brock vs Cain

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  • Vrakas
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 02-27-10
    • 627

    #36
    bring back the worlds most dangerous man and have him fight tito.tito would win the fight easy but the worlds most dangerous man would win the verbal fight.
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    • Vaughany
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 03-07-10
      • 45563

      #37
      Originally posted by Vrakas
      bring back the worlds most dangerous man and have him fight tito.tito would win the fight easy but the worlds most dangerous man would win the verbal fight.
      Frank Mir is the world's most dangerous man...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpDielKtEJ8
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      • Ryangene
        Restricted User
        • 12-04-08
        • 3381

        #38
        this day can't come quick enough.
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        • Kaladarus
          SBR MVP
          • 11-11-09
          • 1876

          #39
          Hopefully if Tito loses he gets cut. His record is getting close to Shamrocks anyways.
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          • 36mafia
            Restricted User
            • 11-08-09
            • 2389

            #40
            anybody think the public will pound brock as the fight comes closer
            idk, now might be the best time to jump on cain
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            • stefan084
              SBR MVP
              • 07-21-09
              • 1490

              #41
              i do think brock will be a bigger favorite closer to fight time
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              • kevindakota00
                Restricted User
                • 03-16-09
                • 721

                #42
                completely stoked!!!
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                • brooks85
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-05-09
                  • 44709

                  #43
                  Originally posted by The HOFF
                  Date: Oct 23, 2010
                  Location: Anaheim, California
                  Venue: Honda Center
                  Broadcast: Pay-per-view
                  • Brock Lesnar vs. Cain Velasquez (heavyweight title)*
                  • Matt Hamill vs. Tito Ortiz*
                  • Gabriel Gonzaga vs. Brendan Schaub*
                  • Martin Kampmann vs. Jake Shields*
                  • Diego Sanchez vs. Paulo Thiago*
                  • Patrick Cote vs. Tom Lawlor*
                  • Ryan Jensen vs. Court McGee*
                  • Sam Stout vs. Paul Taylor*
                  • Chris Camozzi vs. Dongi Yang*
                  • Todd Duffee vs. Jon Madsen
                  • Mike Guymon vs. Daniel Roberts

                  this appears to be the finalized card
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                  • SweatySombrero
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 03-20-10
                    • 140

                    #44
                    the question is, who has the worst chest tattoo?

                    <-----o yeah. all the time
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                    • brooks85
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-05-09
                      • 44709

                      #45
                      the duffman is out with an injury


                      gilbert yvel vs jon madsen
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                      • Shane
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 02-28-10
                        • 466

                        #46
                        Duffee/Madsen had more potential to be an exciting fight due in part to the takedown defense Todd showed against Russow. Those tree trunk legs made him look impossible to bring down.

                        Madsen/Yvel, however... I expect this fight to go fifteen minutes, Madsen takes it 30-27 on each card, and Bruce Buffer has to scream just a bit louder and obnoxiously before the next fight to wake everyone up. Madsen > Fitch for P4P MMA sedative.
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                        • brooks85
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-05-09
                          • 44709

                          #47
                          well at least we can make money on it.
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                          • THE_LOCKSMITH
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 08-25-08
                            • 7237

                            #48
                            Well Duffee was taken off this card and now has been released from the UFC

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                            • urge2kill
                              SBR MVP
                              • 10-27-09
                              • 1722

                              #49
                              "On Tuesday, I got the confirmation email saying I had been cut because I lost my last fight."

                              LOL at the UFC firing people by email.
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                              • Vaughany
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 03-07-10
                                • 45563

                                #50
                                Originally posted by Shane
                                Duffee/Madsen had more potential to be an exciting fight due in part to the takedown defense Todd showed against Russow. Those tree trunk legs made him look impossible to bring down.

                                Madsen/Yvel, however... I expect this fight to go fifteen minutes, Madsen takes it 30-27 on each card, and Bruce Buffer has to scream just a bit louder and obnoxiously before the next fight to wake everyone up. Madsen > Fitch for P4P MMA sedative.
                                Yee I think Madsen is same level if not better than Rothwell - definitely has better wrestling than Rothwell so should be another decision for Madsen for sure!
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                                • Kaladarus
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-11-09
                                  • 1876

                                  #51
                                  Wow, the guy lost one fight he was dominating and get cuts. That's pathetic that the UFC would do something like that.
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                                  • Vaughany
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 03-07-10
                                    • 45563

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Kaladarus
                                    Wow, the guy lost one fight he was dominating and get cuts. That's pathetic that the UFC would do something like that.
                                    Its more to do with his tweeting and facebook antics I think! Complaining about not getting paid enough and also there are murmurings that he exaggerated injuries.
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                                    • snake11eyes
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 07-28-10
                                      • 618

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Vaughany
                                      Its more to do with his tweeting and facebook antics I think! Complaining about not getting paid enough and also there are murmurings that he exaggerated injuries.
                                      Yep same things I read. Probably complaining about the money is what did him in.
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                                      • THE_LOCKSMITH
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 08-25-08
                                        • 7237

                                        #54
                                        Brock Lesnar -165
                                        Cain Velasquez +135

                                        Jake Shields -275
                                        Martin Kampmann +215

                                        Matt Hamill -175
                                        Tito Ortiz +145
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                                        • delldog
                                          SBR Hustler
                                          • 02-10-10
                                          • 71

                                          #55
                                          Cain will outwork Brock in finish him in the 4th.
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                                          • zeroprogress2
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 10-07-10
                                            • 39

                                            #56
                                            How does cain win this fight? I don't see any likely way for him to go about beating brock. I think brock is too dangerous to be "picked apart" or "outworked".

                                            I think cain cant hold him down, and doesn't have KO power. So how does he win?

                                            I guess accumulated punches and TDD?
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                                            • Vaughany
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 03-07-10
                                              • 45563

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by zeroprogress2
                                              How does cain win this fight? I don't see any likely way for him to go about beating brock. I think brock is too dangerous to be "picked apart" or "outworked".

                                              I think cain cant hold him down, and doesn't have KO power. So how does he win?

                                              I guess accumulated punches and TDD?
                                              I agree, as Ive said in my thread I cant imagine Lesnar being knocked out or TKO'd by Cain - especially after seeing how he survived Carwin's onslaught which im pretty sure is more powerful than Cain GnP. Only way he can win is through superior cardio, somehow avoiding being taken down, and through landing more punches for 5 rounds. All that said tho, I dont know if I can bring myself to bet against Cain! Im looking forward to seeing what the prop bet for the fight going to decision will be.
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                                              • brooks85
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 01-05-09
                                                • 44709

                                                #58
                                                we are talking about this brock lesnar right?




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                                                • brooks85
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 01-05-09
                                                  • 44709

                                                  #59
                                                  As long as cain's body doesnt shutdown like carwin the vast disparity in standup and overall game will win cain this fight. There is no doubt if brock comes out and starts hitting his doubleleg cain is ****** but randy gave brock plenty of trouble. Cain is a hell of a lot faster than carwin and is not going to gas.
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                                                  • zeroprogress2
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 10-07-10
                                                    • 39

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by brooks85
                                                    As long as cain's body doesnt shutdown like carwin the vast disparity in standup and overall game will win cain this fight. There is no doubt if brock comes out and starts hitting his doubleleg cain is ****** but randy gave brock plenty of trouble. Cain is a hell of a lot faster than carwin and is not going to gas.

                                                    I agree that randy gave brock a good fight, but in the end brock hit a sloppy grazing punch on coutures head and it was lights out. I just don't know if Cain can stretch the fight out for 5 rounds and not get clipped once. Which I think is what your saying is his way to victory. If it is, then cain has to fight lesnar for 25 minutes without get hit clean, and without getting taken down. To me that seems very far fetched.
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                                                    • brooks85
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 01-05-09
                                                      • 44709

                                                      #61
                                                      Cain has a chin tho, unlike randy. And if kongo could not put him down, brock will not be able to(standing up)
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                                                      • zeroprogress2
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 10-07-10
                                                        • 39

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by brooks85
                                                        Cain has a chin tho, unlike randy. And if kongo could not put him down, brock will not be able to(standing up)
                                                        This may be true, brocks boxing looks like garbage to me.

                                                        Kongo did stun cain several times though, and if lesnar hit him with his straight right i think hes going to go down. I mean even if he has a chin, it might just break a bone in his face like Heith. I know cain is a far superior striker, but I dont know if i can believe him trading shots for 25 minutes without eating one big power blow by lesnar, or leaving himself open for a shot.

                                                        Perhaps he could do an elusive jump in and out style, but brock has the reach advantage and is very agile.
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                                                        • Educ8d Degener8
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-12-10
                                                          • 3177

                                                          #63
                                                          This one ain't going 5 rounds boys.
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                                                          • Vrakas
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 02-27-10
                                                            • 627

                                                            #64
                                                            cain will beat lesnar.i see him winning every round even the first.this fight could go 5 rounds.
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                                                            • stefan084
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 07-21-09
                                                              • 1490

                                                              #65
                                                              i think cain can knock lesnar out and once brock realizes this he will shoot and hold cain down for 4 rounds of boredom
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                                                              • Vrakas
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 02-27-10
                                                                • 627

                                                                #66
                                                                even if cain gets hit he will not lose.cain is the best heavyweight in the world and he will prove it.the only thing that lesnar will have after this fight is his sweet tattoos and a massive headache.
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                                                                • THE_LOCKSMITH
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 08-25-08
                                                                  • 7237

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Not a big Ortiz fan but gotta look at +145 over Hamill. He kept it close over Griffin and Evans, his name alone will give him the edge in judges eyes in close rounds. Pro bet Ortiz by decision when it out
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                                                                  • illmatick
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 01-05-09
                                                                    • 5456

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Did stout really open at -130?

                                                                    still see a lot of value at -155, don't think the line closes at anything less than -175
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                                                                    • ndntarget
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 09-27-10
                                                                      • 316

                                                                      #69
                                                                      cain is in for a beating. brock will ljust out power him. with them odds for brock i am all over it
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                                                                      • JuicedUp
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 01-20-10
                                                                        • 3396

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Less than a week away.
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