Vaughany's MMA Picks...

[Vaughany]

Any Premier League plays today?

Jus got Arsenal in a double with LA Galaxy who won yesterday. Was thinking of playing Sunderland PK as well at +135 or something.

Main plays are Spezia PK and Over 2 goals away at Ascoli in Serie B, then potentially going big on Real Madrid tonight at -135 to -150 range. Must win game for them, Sevilla are solid but Real have won last 7 against them and won last two at Sevilla's ground 6-2 both times. I think Ronaldo will put on a show tonight and everybody will be saying he's back happy again after his strop last week!

[gabe]

I made a TUF thread last night, did ya delete it?

[Vaughany]

I made a TUF thread last night, did ya delete it?

Nah didnt even see a TUF thread

[bjpenn85]

spanks. wagered on sunderland, which appears to go smoothly.

[Vaughany]

spanks. wagered on sunderland, which appears to go smoothly.

Unfortunately I didnt

Relying on Real Madrid now

[bjpenn85]

i cant seem to find Spezia PK, italian football? Serie B? A?

[Vaughany]

i cant seem to find Spezia PK, italian football? Serie B? A?

Already happened pal, lost 2-0! That's why Im relying on Madrid tonight now

[bjpenn85]

i have sunderland 1and x together with jones sub, lost small on the straight play on sunderland and real madrid dobbel it seems. Thinking about playing real madrid as well, but..it could end up in draw also, so..football is difficult to pull of without dobbel chance for me. if i play madrid and draw, i dont know if i see any value.

[AdamB]

You gonna watch the BAMMA at 9 Vaughany? Seems to be on 5*. I might have a look at it while I wait for the boxing.

[Vaughany]

You gonna watch the BAMMA at 9 Vaughany? Seems to be on 5*. I might have a look at it while I wait for the boxing.

Ah right nice one, didnt think it would be on TV, did notice some lines up on Paddy earlier...Andre Winner +125 dog against Rob Sinclair, Warburton and Marshman also on card so could be some decent fights...will flick between that and Real Madrid game...got a lot riding on Madrid so need to keep an eye on tht!

[Vaughany]

i have sunderland 1and x together with jones sub, lost small on the straight play on sunderland and real madrid dobbel it seems. Thinking about playing real madrid as well, but..it could end up in draw also, so..football is difficult to pull of without dobbel chance for me. if i play madrid and draw, i dont know if i see any value.

yeah, going against my own rule of not playing teams straight up. Usually I only play the win/draw or draw-no-bet, but gonna take a chance with this one as it's a must win game for Madrid, they cant settle for a draw, especially as Barca look like they are going to coast to victory against Getafe so will be 8 points ahead. All depends on whether Ronaldo turns up and hopefully none of the hotheads like Pepe get sent-off. Usually when I bet on Real he or Ramos go and get sent off in first half!

[Vaughany]

haha Urijah Favour!


Bisping @bisping
@ufc urijah favour,Joseph benavidez and the rest of the munchkin crew talk s— cos theyre stuck in the body’s of pre pubescent boys
and I’ll take the Pepsi challenge with smug faced little shit any time.
Faber then responded:
Urijah Faber @UrijahFaber
Thought we were buddies @bisping I know u can dish it out but can’t take it back @ufc ur like a spoiled 3rd grader. Grow up.

[bjpenn85]

Haha, that sucks. Im trying to make a play at real now, hedging with sevilla winning 2-1 and 1-1.

I dont see 0-0, 2-2 or 3-2 happening.

[Vaughany]

Nightmare wknd of soccer betting...should of known my ridiculous run in last couple of weeks was gonna come to a crushing end sooner or later!

[bjpenn85]

you cant win playing straight soccer. I risked my winnings immediately after sevilla scored, and bought back almost everything. Lost 2 units but risked losing 12 or 13.s Make the fight more interesting for sure, but Im done betting straight plays on soccer. I think i have lost almost everytime i have tried. Going to stick with dobbel chance from now on.

[brokenbrain]

Nightmare wknd of soccer betting...should of known my ridiculous run in last couple of weeks was gonna come to a crushing end sooner or later!

There wouldn't be good days if it weren't for the bad days...chin up dude, you'll get your swing back

[Vaughany]

Worth watchin just for the interviewers creepy laugh!...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4lw-nITXZM&feature=player_embedded

[Vaughany]

Above parlays pending going into UFC 152. Obviously some of the potential profit won't be as high as stated due to Jones fight being cancelled. But have worked it out and basically have £568.34 at risk to win £1,458.28 on Benavidez. So equates to getting Benavidez at +256.5 odds

Other plays:

	9/5/12 5:14pm	$74.06	$259.21	Pending	9/22/12 10:00pm Props Fighting 1205 Stann wins inside distance +350* vs Not Stann inside distance
	9/5/12 5:13pm	$200.00	$107.17	Pending	2 Team Parlay
				Pending	9/22/12 11:30pm Props Fighting 1009 Jones wins inside distance -350* vs Not Jones inside distance
				Pending	9/22/12 10:30pm Props Fighting 1208 Not Stann by 3 round decision -514* vs Stann wins by 3 round decision

[Caranono]

Worth watchin just for the interviewers creepy laugh!...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4lw-nITXZM&feature=player_embedded

nice one Vaughany. ..

[Vaughany]

Good interview with Bisping... http://www.sherdog.com/videos/videoi...mensional-4257

[sideloaded]

There's no denying how strong Cyborg is, but the amount of leeway she has against Rousey is none. If she makes one mistake, she'll get taken down. Rousey's takedowns straight to mount are vicious, and from there, the armbar is inevitable. I really don't see how she can avoid grappling with Rousey, where she'll get slaughtered.

I don't think that is a great method to cap a fight. Using your logic nothing is going to happen in the fight until cyborg makes a "mistake" and gets caught. I know just like Brock Lesnar everyone thinks they can predict how the fight will go against any oppenent because of previous outcomes. MMA isn't that simple and it's flawed logic. Giva Santana arm-barred everybody.....until he didn't.

If the arm-bar was truly inevitable she would have armbarred everyone to the gold medal. And no I don't believe judo players are some god like submission machines. The atheletes in wmma are comparable. The girls Rousey fought and lost to weren't some 1 in million atheletes. I know you didnt argue that I'm just tired of hearing that shit.

[TheCalculator]

I don't think that is a great method to cap a fight. Using your logic nothing is going to happen in the fight until cyborg makes a "mistake" and gets caught. I know just like Brock Lesnar everyone thinks they can predict how the fight will go against any oppenent because of previous outcomes. MMA isn't that simple and it's flawed logic. Giva Santana arm-barred everybody.....until he didn't.

The fact is: STRENGTH can nullify technique and technique can nullify strength. I grappled against a beast a few years ago and it was the first time that someone just nullified most of my techniques with pure power. And my buddy who weights 135 lbs beat a 300 lb Sambo guy BADLY in a bar fight. So it can go both ways.

[sideloaded]

The fact is: STRENGTH can nullify technique and technique can nullify strength. I grappled against a beast a few years ago and it was the first time that someone just nullified most of my techniques with pure power. And my buddy who weights 135 lbs beat a 300 lb Sambo guy BADLY in a bar fight. So it can go both ways.

I agree and the fact Rousey is facing smaller girls and hasn't faced the only black belt in SF makes me suspecious of all the hype. Alexis Davis is currently ranked #3 in the world and cant get a fight. She is the only legit bb in SF btw. Meisha Tate just got her purple belt and wasnt even belted when they fought and took her back quite early in the fight. A black belt like Davis who has insane cardio would be a style nightmare for RR.

[Vaughany]

[Caranono]

The fact is: STRENGTH can nullify technique and technique can nullify strength. I grappled against a beast a few years ago and it was the first time that someone just nullified most of my techniques with pure power. And my buddy who weights 135 lbs beat a 300 lb Sambo guy BADLY in a bar fight. So it can go both ways.

It always about strength and the ability to read the opponent. If you know how handle fight, you have the technique, everything is in order.

[Vaughany]

[MD]

I don't think that is a great method to cap a fight. Using your logic nothing is going to happen in the fight until cyborg makes a "mistake" and gets caught. I know just like Brock Lesnar everyone thinks they can predict how the fight will go against any oppenent because of previous outcomes. MMA isn't that simple and it's flawed logic. Giva Santana arm-barred everybody.....until he didn't.

If the arm-bar was truly inevitable she would have armbarred everyone to the gold medal. And no I don't believe judo players are some god like submission machines. The atheletes in wmma are comparable. The girls Rousey fought and lost to weren't some 1 in million atheletes. I know you didnt argue that I'm just tired of hearing that shit.

I think you're misunderstanding my point. I didn't say that the armbar was inevitable, I said that once Rousey gets mount, the armbar is inevitable (which, of course, is hyperbole given that there's always at least a tiny chance that someone escapes Rousey's mount un-armbarred, but realistically, it's quite close to inevitable). You're going by the misconception that Rousey's opponents need to stop her armbar; they don't, they need to stop her mount. If you're saying that Rousey's opponents have a realistic chance at stopping her armbar, then yes, you're 100% correct. If you're saying that Rousey's opponents have a realistic chance at stopping her armbar once they're mounted, then I highly disagree with you. Stopping Rousey's takedowns is the problem. No one will beat Rousey by learning how to escape from an armbar, it's a waste of time.

I also disagree with your point about the quality of her opponents in the Olympics. The very fact that they beat Rousey makes them monsters. Rousey's Judo is exactly as good as it's hyped to be, I can guarantee you that.

[Vaughany]

Champions League back tonight...time to sink or swim boys...

Arsenal PK,
Dortmund -1 A.H,
Dortmund/Ajax Over 2.5 goals,
Schalke PK,
Olympiakos/Schalke Over 2 goals,
Zenit PK,
Man City +1 A.H.

[AdamB]

I don't think that is a great method to cap a fight. Using your logic nothing is going to happen in the fight until cyborg makes a "mistake" and gets caught. I know just like Brock Lesnar everyone thinks they can predict how the fight will go against any oppenent because of previous outcomes. MMA isn't that simple and it's flawed logic. Giva Santana arm-barred everybody.....until he didn't.

If the arm-bar was truly inevitable she would have armbarred everyone to the gold medal. And no I don't believe judo players are some god like submission machines. The atheletes in wmma are comparable. The girls Rousey fought and lost to weren't some 1 in million atheletes. I know you didnt argue that I'm just tired of hearing that shit.

You also have to factor in Cyborg's immeasurable advantage in hog size.

[Vaughany]

You also have to factor in Cyborg's immeasurable advantage in hog size.

yep Hog size should always be one of the primary considerations when capping...even more so in Female MMA. Rule no. 4 of WannabetUFC's... "Guide to Hog analysis and it's application to MMA betting" thesis

[Vaughany]

Playing Arsenal PK live-in-play at half time

[bjpenn85]

I got PSG home victory at 1.70. Fakking gift line, parlayed with arsenal home/draw +140. Football is the new mma. gift lines all over the place.

[Vaughany]

I got PSG home victory at 1.70. Fakking gift line, parlayed with arsenal home/draw +140. Football is the new mma. gift lines all over the place.

yeah I looked at PSG a lot today and especially when I saw Thiago Silva was playing I wanted to play them or at least PK in a double with Arsenal OK, but I already had over £3,500 on the other plays so bottled it.

[NunyaBidness]

I got PSG home victory at 1.70. Fakking gift line, parlayed with arsenal home/draw +140. Football is the new mma. gift lines all over the place.

Football is the old football. Always been lots of soft spots.

Only problem is you get limited quick when the site sees you're betting on some tiny country's football game that you couldn't possibly have a rooting interest in.

[Vaughany]

Champions League back tonight...time to sink or swim boys...

Arsenal PK,
Dortmund -1 A.H,
Dortmund/Ajax Over 2.5 goals,
Schalke PK,
Olympiakos/Schalke Over 2 goals,
Zenit PK,
Man City +1 A.H.

3 hits, 1 push and 2 losses (though I did hedge out of the Over 2.5 in Dortmund game with Under 1.5, 2 at half-time) so ended up being a solid night...£2,113 profit....

ACCEPTED

DECIDED

TYPE

DESCRIPTION

WAGERPRICE

STAKE

+/-

6:31am 18-Sep-12

18-Sep-12

Soccer Handicap

Montpellier vs Arsenal (+0) for Game.

-136

1,000.00

735.29

3:36pm 17-Sep-12

18-Sep-12

Soccer Handicap

Montpellier vs Arsenal (+0) for Game.

-180

1,000.00

555.56

W:437.00

Single

Montpellier v Arsenal/Draw No Bet

Arsenal

4/7

Open

O

£437.00

12:36pm 18-Sep-12

18-Sep-12

Soccer Handicap

Montpellier vs Arsenal (+0) for Game. [Live! 1-2]

-112

500.00

Cancelled

3:21pm 17-Sep-12

18-Sep-12

Soccer Handicap

Olympiacos vs FC Schalke 04 (+0) for Game.

-114

500.00

438.60

3:21pm 17-Sep-12

18-Sep-12

Soccer Total

Olympiacos/Schalke 04 (O 2) for Game.

-156

500.00

320.51

2:12am 17-Sep-12

18-Sep-12

Soccer Handicap

Borussia Dortmund (-1) vs Ajax for Game.

-137

750.00

Cancelled

2:54am 14-Sep-12

18-Sep-12

Soccer Total

Borussia Dortmund/Ajax (O 2.5) for Game.

-145

500.00

-500.00

12:35pm 18-Sep-12

18-Sep-12

Soccer Total

Borussia Dortmund/Ajax (U 1.5 and 2) for Game. [Live! 0-0]

-133

550.00

413.53

2:26am 17-Sep-12

18-Sep-12

Soccer Handicap

Real Madrid vs Manchester City (+1) for Game.

-136

100.00

Cancelled

2:54am 14-Sep-12

18-Sep-12

Soccer Handicap

Malaga vs Zenit St. Petersburg (+0) for Game.

-109

100.00

-100.00