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  • urge2kill
    SBR MVP
    • 10-27-09
    • 1722

    #806
    It's +1350 at DSI right now.
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    • Ladle
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 03-21-11
      • 835

      #807
      Originally posted by Vaughany
      I've been considering tht Bowles quickest tko play as well, he starts aggressive for sure
      Yeah, it's piqued my interest too. Mizugaki gets dropped constantly.
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      • rocky mattioli
        SBR MVP
        • 08-26-10
        • 1263

        #808
        Originally posted by illmatick
        added a few prop plays...


        Brian Bowles has quickest TKO/KO +1200 x.25
        G.Sotiropoulos has quickest submission +1300 x.25
        Takeya Mizugaki has quickest submission +3000 x.15
        S.Roller wins in round 1 +750 x.15
        M.Wiman wins in round 3 +1500 x.25

        ya` know,after watching the weigh in and looking at the odds,i`m playing small on roller via submission...

        if you watched the weigh-in,guillard was acting foolish....trying to clown roller...i expected this from guillard when he`s on a roll...he`s a front runner and has a tendency to become full of himself...

        i can see him taking roller lightly and getting choked out...it`s very telling that he`s a -275 fave flat...but roller is only getting +425 for "wins by submission"...being that i have guillard in a par,i`m going to play this as a sort of hedge...

        if guillard had his head on straight,the sky would be the limit...but,he doesn`t...and probably never will...

        and yes...i`m liking that bowles quickest k.o,too....
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        • Ladle
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 03-21-11
          • 835

          #809
          Originally posted by rocky mattioli
          ya` know,after watching the weigh in and looking at the odds,i`m playing small on roller via submission...

          if you watched the weigh-in,guillard was acting foolish....trying to clown roller...i expected this from guillard when he`s on a roll...he`s a front runner and has a tendency to become full of himself...

          i can see him taking roller lightly and getting choked out...it`s very telling that he`s a -275 fave flat...but roller is only getting +425 for "wins by submission"...being that i have guillard in a par,i`m going to play this as a sort of hedge...

          if guillard had his head on straight,the sky would be the limit...but,he doesn`t...and probably never will...

          and yes...i`m liking that bowles quickest k.o,too....
          Sounds like a smart move to me. In a lot of ways, Roller is exactly the kind of guy who Guillard has struggled with in the past. We know Roller is a great wrestler, and we know he's good at getting the back and sinking in a choke. Can he take Melvin down and get back control? Well, he probably gets knocked out trying, but it's still a definite possibility.
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          • illmatick
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 01-05-09
            • 5451

            #810
            Originally posted by illmatick
            Klitschko wins by 12 rnd decision +404 x.35
            Klits takes a UD

            Good start with Hougland as well. Just need Dos Anjos now before i can hedge out of my parlay.
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            • Educ8d Degener8
              SBR MVP
              • 01-12-10
              • 3177

              #811
              Originally posted by illmatick
              Klits takes a UD

              Good start with Hougland as well. Just need Dos Anjos now before i can hedge out of my parlay.

              Hedge that sh*t homez...
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              • illmatick
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-05-09
                • 5451

                #812
                Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8
                Hedge that sh*t homez...
                hehe, no doubt

                Cruz all the way up to -200, haha. Even I didn't think it reach that high. Should be an easy hedge if Wiman comes through.



                Originally posted by illmatick




                parlay x.65
                Wanderlei Silva -165
                Jeff Hougland +186
                Dos anjos +190
                Cruz -155
                a little insurance to cover this parlay. 2-0 on the dogs so far.

                parlay x.75
                Chris Leben +165
                cruz-190

                Leben wins by 3 round decision +750 x.15
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                • Educ8d Degener8
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-12-10
                  • 3177

                  #813
                  yeah, you f*ckers drove that Cruz line the opposite way I imagined... I had to buy at -160... thought public chalk was gonna bring it back my way... but all the gawdamn sharps must be pounding Cruz... I love Cruz here... got a bit tied up on him ML, and parlay...

                  GL sir
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                  • Hannibal
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-15-11
                    • 1055

                    #814

                    Dos Anjos is the better striker as i believed
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                    • illmatick
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-05-09
                      • 5451

                      #815
                      Originally posted by Hannibal

                      Dos Anjos is the better striker as i believed
                      hope you made some grip

                      Anjos's stand-up looked sharp for sure.
                      Last edited by illmatick; 07-02-11, 07:54 PM.
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                      • illmatick
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-05-09
                        • 5451

                        #816
                        Originally posted by illmatick
                        GL boys, this should be it.

                        1.Cruz -120 x5
                        2.Wiman +115 x2.5
                        3.RAFAEL DOS ANJOS +205 x2.5


                        parlay x2.25

                        Matt Wiman +105
                        Cruz -155

                        parlay x1.75
                        Brian Bowles -350
                        Aaron Simpson -260
                        Sotiropoulos wins by 3 round decision +115
                        Cruz -155

                        parlay x.65
                        Wanderlei Silva -165
                        Jeff Hougland +186
                        Dos anjos +190
                        Cruz -155

                        parlay x.5
                        Aaron Simpson -260
                        Andre Winner +130
                        George Sotiropoulos -230
                        Melvin Guillard -270
                        Carlos Condit +100
                        Cruz -155


                        T.Ortiz wins in round 3 +6200 x.15
                        C.Condit wins in round 3 +1280 x.25
                        Not Kim by 3 round decision -145 x1
                        U.Faber wins by submission +530 x.5
                        U.Faber wins in round 1 +1020 x.35
                        Klitschko wins by 12 rnd decision +404 x.35
                        D.Siver wins in round 1 +780 x.75
                        D.Siver wins by TKO/KO +650 x.35
                        should be around +2 units for the day. Wiman ruined a perfect night.
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                        • Chairib
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 03-08-10
                          • 917

                          #817
                          Last edited by Chairib; 07-03-11, 01:05 PM.
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                          • Coopstain
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 06-09-11
                            • 7

                            #818
                            Still don't understand how wiman lost a decision. He clearly won round 2. 1 and 3 were close but for it to be unanimous makes me suspicious of the judges. Good pick. We were robbed.
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                            • Chairib
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 03-08-10
                              • 917

                              #819
                              Last edited by Chairib; 07-03-11, 01:05 PM.
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                              • Coopstain
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 06-09-11
                                • 7

                                #820
                                Originally posted by Chairib
                                Unfortunately for Wiman he actually believed the judges gave him rounds 1 and 2 and decided to coast in that third and final round. But in reality in the judges scorecards had the fighters tied going into that final round.

                                Finish the fight and leave no doubt.
                                No doubt. Even though I think it was a bad decision, wiman has to take care of that 3rd round. Never leave it to the judges.
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                                • illmatick
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 01-05-09
                                  • 5451

                                  #821
                                  Originally posted by Chairib
                                  Unfortunately for Wiman he actually believed the judges gave him rounds 1 and 2 and decided to coast in that third and final round. But in reality in the judges scorecards had the fighters tied going into that final round.

                                  Finish the fight and leave no doubt.
                                  yeah, inexcusable really.

                                  Fight went exactly by my script until that third round.The reaility is that I made a bad play. A big part of my reasoning for taking wiman was that i though he would have a clear advantage in the third. Whether he was coasting or not, Siver looked better than I imagined he would in the final round.

                                  Easy to say now but anjos should have been a much larger play for me, I actually had him capped at even or possibly as a slight favorite and I only put 2.5 units on him.

                                  I maxed him out early and just didn't want to push my luck too much since I already had a large play on cruz.

                                  small profit on the night so I can't complain too much but I made a lot of rookie betting errors.
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                                  • Vaughany
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 03-07-10
                                    • 45563

                                    #822
                                    Originally posted by illmatick
                                    but I made a lot of rookie betting errors.
                                    Same here!
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                                    • Chairib
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 03-08-10
                                      • 917

                                      #823
                                      Originally posted by Vaughany

                                      Same here!
                                      As long as there's fights to be fought, there's always room for growth and improvement. I think it says a lot about both of you guys that you're able to recognize when a mistake has been made.
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                                      • illmatick
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 01-05-09
                                        • 5451

                                        #824
                                        Originally posted by Chairib
                                        I think it says a lot about both of you guys that you're able to recognize when a mistake has been made.
                                        True, we're two well rounded individuals.

                                        added a small play for strikeforce.

                                        Tate +120 x.5

                                        Booty.....


                                        what a little stinker.

                                        Last edited by illmatick; 07-04-11, 03:39 PM.
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                                        • Vaughany
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 03-07-10
                                          • 45563

                                          #825
                                          Originally posted by illmatick
                                          True, we're two well rounded individuals.

                                          added a small play for strikeforce.

                                          Tate +120 x.5

                                          Booty.....


                                          what a little stinker.

                                          Right in the stinker!
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                                          • illmatick
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-05-09
                                            • 5451

                                            #826
                                            added a few plays

                                            Rory Macdonald -230 x4
                                            Alessio Sakara -170 x1
                                            Miyata -130 x.75
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                                            • illmatick
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 01-05-09
                                              • 5451

                                              #827
                                              Originally posted by illmatick
                                              Miyata -130 x.75

                                              adding

                                              Rory MacDonald -250 x2


                                              parlay x1
                                              Tatsuya Kawajiri -300
                                              Rory MacDonald -250

                                              parlay x.65
                                              Masakazu Imanari -145
                                              Kazuyuki Miyata -160

                                              parlay x.35
                                              Matt Horwich +200
                                              Bruno Carvalho +165
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                                              • Vaughany
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 03-07-10
                                                • 45563

                                                #828
                                                6 units on Rory then? Im gonna wait for MacDonald by decision. I guess some are gone think he's gonna get Hathaway'd but I dont see that happening, he's on another level to Hathaway.
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                                                • illmatick
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 01-05-09
                                                  • 5451

                                                  #829
                                                  I don't blame anyone for not wanting to lay -250 against a guy with Pyle's skill set but I have a strong feeling Rory is going to make this look easier than most people think. I think we see Rory replicate a lot of what Ellenberger was able to accomplish.

                                                  I'm expecting Macdonalds strength and speed to be the difference wherever the fight takes place. You could make the case that Pyle is the better grappler and possesses the more technical boxing, but imo the latest movement on the line is just a direct reflection of a match-up between two completely different types of athletes.

                                                  His learning curve surprises me more and more each time out. I was blown away by some of the defensive adjustments he made in the Diaz fight. I honestly see this kid taking the belt in a few years.

                                                  If he had paced himself against Condit the same way he did against Diaz he probably wins that fight. I would even make him the favorite over Condit if they fought tomorrow.

                                                  Not taking anything away form Pyle though, the guy has been undervalued in all of his last three fights. His crafty guard and underrated boxing could definitely give Macdonald fits.

                                                  And yeah, we saw what Hathaway had in his last fight. He just hasn't progressed all that much since the Rick Story fight. I'd probably take Story in a rematch.
                                                  Last edited by illmatick; 07-15-11, 08:09 PM.
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                                                  • illmatick
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 01-05-09
                                                    • 5451

                                                    #830
                                                    adding

                                                    Keisuke Fujiwara -110 x2


                                                    parlay x.5
                                                    Fujiwara -115
                                                    Bruno Carvalho +165
                                                    Tokoro +130

                                                    parlay x.35
                                                    osawa -115
                                                    Imanari -160
                                                    Miyata -175



                                                    Mizuno +375 x.5
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                                                    • Kaladarus
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-11-09
                                                      • 1876

                                                      #831
                                                      I've also bet heavily on Macdonald at -185 up to -212, but i think he's still got a lot of value at -250. Might add a little more on him by decision or straight up later. Really like the plays though, good luck.
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                                                      • illmatick
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 01-05-09
                                                        • 5451

                                                        #832
                                                        Gl kalad, I think we could see the line hit -300 at some point.

                                                        Originally posted by illmatick
                                                        adding Rory MacDonald -250 x2

                                                        parlay x1
                                                        Tatsuya Kawajiri -300
                                                        Rory MacDonald -250

                                                        parlay x.65
                                                        Masakazu Imanari -145
                                                        Kazuyuki Miyata -160

                                                        parlay x.35

                                                        Matt Horwich +200
                                                        Bruno Carvalho +165

                                                        Originally posted by illmatick
                                                        adding Keisuke Fujiwara -110 x2

                                                        parlay x.5

                                                        Fujiwara -115
                                                        Bruno Carvalho +165
                                                        Tokoro +130

                                                        parlay x.35

                                                        osawa -115
                                                        Imanari -160
                                                        Miyata -175


                                                        Mizuno +375 x.5

                                                        Mizuno and Kawajiri were my only hits last night, close to -3 units

                                                        I tried to hit Mizuno again but the lines closed like 3 hours early
                                                        Last edited by illmatick; 07-16-11, 06:10 PM.
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                                                        • illmatick
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 01-05-09
                                                          • 5451

                                                          #833
                                                          added a few more plays.....

                                                          Ronnie Mann +120 x.75
                                                          Maximo Blanco +175 x.35
                                                          Bobby Voelker +160 x.75
                                                          Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira +180 x.5
                                                          Chris Lytle -115 x1
                                                          Alexander Gustafsson -195 x1
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                                                          • snake11eyes
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 07-28-10
                                                            • 618

                                                            #834
                                                            Originally posted by illmatick
                                                            added a few more plays.....

                                                            Ronnie Mann +120 x.75
                                                            Maximo Blanco +175 x.35
                                                            Bobby Voelker +160 x.75
                                                            Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira +180 x.5
                                                            Chris Lytle -115 x1
                                                            Alexander Gustafsson -195 x1
                                                            Voelker keeps beating Bowling and Bowling keeps opening as the favorite. I'll win more money on Voelker again. Just not as much as last fight.
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                                                            • bjpenn85
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 02-17-11
                                                              • 5059

                                                              #835
                                                              How will voelker win this fight?
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                                                              • Vaughany
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 03-07-10
                                                                • 45563

                                                                #836
                                                                I guess same as the last fight!
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                                                                • NunyaBidness
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 07-26-09
                                                                  • 9345

                                                                  #837
                                                                  Originally posted by snake11eyes
                                                                  Voelker keeps beating Bowling and Bowling keeps opening as the favorite. I'll win more money on Voelker again. Just not as much as last fight.
                                                                  Voelker lost the first fight pretty handily. He was on his way to winning that last round, but he was losing the fight.
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                                                                  • bjpenn85
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 02-17-11
                                                                    • 5059

                                                                    #838
                                                                    I know, that was pretty obvious. its 1-1. But voelker wont be taken down consistently this time around as shown in the last fight. Bowling is more or less forced to trade with voelker. Voelker has granite chin, and good strikes. I think voelker wins this fight. i have a couple of units on him. He is overall the better fighter.
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                                                                    • Vaughany
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 03-07-10
                                                                      • 45563

                                                                      #839
                                                                      Originally posted by bjpenn85
                                                                      How will voelker win this fight?
                                                                      haha Thought u wer being facetious and actually questioning whether Voelkner can win!
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                                                                      • bjpenn85
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 02-17-11
                                                                        • 5059

                                                                        #840
                                                                        i just recently watched tape and got educated. first i didnt know. I placed a couple of units on voelker. I think its worth a play when the dog is the all around better fighter and have a clear path to victory.
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