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  • sideloaded
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-21-10
    • 7561

    #736
    Originally posted by illmatick
    adding...

    Frankie Edgar -130 x3
    Nelson wins by 3 round decision +450 x.5

    parlay x.75
    ALves -210
    Jorge Santiago +100
    ill doesn't Santiago's chin scare you against Stanns power?
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    • illmatick
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 01-05-09
      • 5456

      #737
      Originally posted by sideloaded
      ill doesn't Santiago's chin scare you against Stanns power?
      yes.








      parlay x2.75

      Renan Barao -340
      ALves -210

      parlay x1.25
      Tavis brown -150
      Alves -210
      Demetrious Johnson -110

      parlay x.75

      ALves -210
      Jorge Santiago +100


      parlay x2.65
      Travis Brown -150
      Alves -210

      parlayx.75
      Jorge Santiago +125
      Frank Mir -140
      Mcdonald -340


      parlay x.15
      T.Browne wins in round 1 +350
      Stann wins by 3 round decision+327


      parlay x.45
      Travis Brown -150
      Frank Mir -140
      Rick story +175
      Jorge Santiago +125

      B.Stann wins in round 1 +405 x.35

      Stann/Santiago wont start round 3 -105 x.75

      S.Struve wins in round 1 +455 x.35
      S.Struve wins by submission +350 x.35
      Story wins by 3 round decision +265 x1.35
      Torres wins inside distance +390 x.35
      Nelson wins by 3 round decision +450 x.5
      Last edited by illmatick; 05-26-11, 06:56 PM.
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      • illmatick
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-05-09
        • 5456

        #738
        few early parlays

        x 1.5
        Fabio Maldonado +165
        Jeremy Stephens -360
        Chuck Oneil -185
        Pettis -220

        x.75
        Fabio Maldonado +165
        Jeremy Stephens -360
        Chuck Oneil -185
        Guida wins by 3 round decision +232

        x1.65
        Francisco Rivera +180
        Chuck Oneil -185
        Tim Creuder -105

        x1
        Duran -230
        Chuck Oneil -185
        Ken Stone +360

        x.5
        ED Herman -115
        Rivera +180
        Grispi -420
        Stephens-360
        Oneil -185
        Pettis-220
        Last edited by illmatick; 06-04-11, 03:43 PM.
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        • Vaughany
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 03-07-10
          • 45563

          #739
          U seem pretty confident in Rivera Ill! Gd luck tonight
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          • illmatick
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 01-05-09
            • 5456

            #740
            Originally posted by Vaughany
            U seem pretty confident in Rivera Ill! Gd luck tonight
            meh. He faded fast after he won the first round.


            UFC 131 parlays

            x2.75

            Krzysztof Soszynski -350
            Chris Weidman -380
            Junior Dos Santos -160

            x1.65
            Mark Munoz -110
            Sam Stout -155
            Dos Santos -160

            x.75
            munoz -110
            Edwards wins by 3 round decision +315
            Santos -160

            x1.45
            Jason Young +280
            Munoz -110
            Dos Santos -160

            x1.25

            Maia wins inside distance +251
            Jason Young +280

            x.65
            K.Florian wins by submission+295
            Santos -160



            J.Bongfeldt wins in round 1 +695 x.35
            D.Nunes wins in round 3 +3450 x.15
            Herman wins by 3 round decision +420 x.35
            D.Cerrone wins in round 1 +300 x.25
            Last edited by illmatick; 06-11-11, 03:16 AM.
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            • sideloaded
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 08-21-10
              • 7561

              #741
              Illmatick I love the Jason Young picks.
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              • illmatick
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-05-09
                • 5456

                #742
                Originally posted by sideloaded
                Illmatick I love the Jason Young picks.
                gl man. Just think Poiriere's line is a bit inflated after dominating an overrated grispi.

                Young's sprawl and defensive wrestling is obviously the key to him winning. One thing i don't like is how erect his stance is. It makes it a lot easier for his opponents to shoot on him.

                He Trains with Brad Pickett who has good wrestling for UK standards so I'm hopping he's picked up a few things. Also seems to have been really focusing on his grappling after getting tapped by Paul Sass.

                I Might do some type of hedge with Poiriere winning the fastest submission of the night. Poiriere is the rightful favorite no doubt but I have him capped closer to the -230 range.

                one last parlay

                x.5
                Elkins +200
                Munoz/Maia under 2.5 +117
                Rocha/cerrone under 2.5 -135
                Santos/Carwin under 1.5 -200
                Last edited by illmatick; 06-11-11, 11:00 AM.
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                • stacks on deck
                  SBR MVP
                  • 07-29-09
                  • 1212

                  #743
                  your 2nd album was ehhh your first was illmatic thats a 1 hot album in 10 year average.
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                  • Vaughany
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 03-07-10
                    • 45563

                    #744
                    Originally posted by stacks on deck
                    your 2nd album was ehhh your first was illmatic thats a 1 hot album in 10 year average.
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                    • Educ8d Degener8
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-12-10
                      • 3177

                      #745
                      Originally posted by stacks on deck
                      your 2nd album was ehhh your first was illmatic thats a 1 hot album in 10 year average.
                      That 1 hot album you speak of is timeless.


                      It's like that
                      You know it's like that
                      I got at him
                      Now you never get the mic back
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                      • Chairib
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 03-08-10
                        • 917

                        #746
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                        • illmatick
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 01-05-09
                          • 5456

                          #747
                          the fuk is going on in here? rap party?

                          bunch of homos ya'll are.




                          Few plays for ufc 132, I'll post them now before the lines move any further. Dominich Cruz is going to be my largest play of the year so far. My line is around -175,

                          Cruz -120 x5
                          Wiman +115 x2.5
                          Johny Hendricks +105 x1
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                          • Vaughany
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 03-07-10
                            • 45563

                            #748
                            Ye I cap Cruz at -140 to -160 range but I think he wins by decision majority of the time so just taking tht for now at +170.

                            Im liking Wiman as well.
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                            • MMAbetMASTA
                              SBR MVP
                              • 05-24-11
                              • 1931

                              #749
                              Originally posted by Vaughany
                              Ye I cap Cruz at -140 to -160 range but I think he wins by decision majority of the time so just taking tht for now at +170.

                              Im liking Wiman as well.
                              nice moves on cruz you guys, and that answered my question for V in the other thread.

                              Ill and V, why do you guys like wiman so much? I'm curious for your breakdown..

                              Initially when I looked at the odds on this card I thought there was nice value in a str8 play on siver around -130. Second only to a big str8 play on cruz, this play was what stuck out in my mind the most when first examining the odds. Normally I end up playing with these initial picks that stick out, but there is lots of talk on here about wiman upsetting and I don't get it. Yet I want to so that I don't **** up haha.

                              I know wiman has looked good lately and seems to ever improve, and also upsets. However I find siver a great style to beat wiman for some reason. Gsot's tds were kinda weak and I think wiman is definitely more explosive, experienced and rounded in his wrestling, but I also think siver deserves credit for his ever improving tdd. Its improved a lot from previous fights and even if it goes to the ground the guy is no slouch off his back. On the feet I think you'll both agree siver has a nice advantage. The guy has a diverse, technical arsenal of strikes, all of them bombs that have stopping power. I also think that siver will be stronger physically and his stocky frame is hard to get down without great skill. My main concern in picking siver is his cardio which is questionable... while on the contrary I know wiman has fuel for days. I think in a weakened stage siver's tdd would fade and wiman could grind him up in the clinch and get him down and smash on him. THe big question here is tdd I think,and I know it's a big "if" per se.. Obviously a fight on the ground with wiman on top or a dirty clinch game will lose siver this fight. However I don't see this happening to be honest and I think siver can keep this fight on the feet at a distance. I think siver will get taken down at times, but will pop up quickly and get it back to the feet where I believe he has a distinct advantage. And again the guy is not too shabby on the ground either and could catch a sub from wiman's wild ass. Overall I think this might be a gritty striking clinic on wiman though. Wiman will try to brawl and he does have decent hands with decent power, but I think a stand up brawl with siver is bad news with regard to the two's technicality comparrison and overall power. If wiman was a heavier underdog I would totally understand str8 plays on him (which he might be, I won't be surprised if he becomes a much bigger dog as the fight approaches), but looking at it from the opposite sense, I actually find siver the value in this fight as a small favorite odds-wise.

                              This is just how I see it and I am curious why everyone is liking wiman and what I might be missing or where I am wrong. Cheers.
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                              • Vaughany
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 03-07-10
                                • 45563

                                #750
                                Originally posted by illmatick
                                the fuk is going on in here? rap party?

                                bunch of homos ya'll are.



                                hahah

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                                • illmatick
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 01-05-09
                                  • 5456

                                  #751
                                  few parlays for strikeforce......

                                  x2.25
                                  Alistair Overeem-350
                                  Daniel Cormier-450
                                  Cheick Kongo-175

                                  x.65
                                  Gesias Cavalcante-120
                                  Mavidal +135
                                  Valentijn Overeem +115

                                  x.35
                                  Cormier/Monson under 2.5 +210
                                  Rogers/Barnett under1.5 -115
                                  werdum/Reem under 1.5 -115
                                  Last edited by illmatick; 06-17-11, 05:20 PM.
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                                  • reformed
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 11-18-10
                                    • 1384

                                    #752
                                    what do you think is the strongest straight up play for strikeforce?
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                                    • illmatick
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-05-09
                                      • 5456

                                      #753
                                      Originally posted by reformed
                                      what do you think is the strongest straight up play for strikeforce?
                                      I dont really feel too strongly about any of my straight plays on this card. My Overeem/Cormier parlay is where i plan on making my money for this card.

                                      I do have straight bets on V.Overeem wins by 3 round decision at +1497, Masvidal wins by 3 round decision at +298, and KJ Noons wins in round 1 at +600.
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                                      • MMAbetMASTA
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 05-24-11
                                        • 1931

                                        #754
                                        Originally posted by reformed
                                        what do you think is the strongest straight up play for strikeforce?
                                        Hard to call on this one... My two big str8 plays are on wilcox and griggs - not near a lock and I'll be honest and say I am not too confident. ALso got a small upset on monson and a moderate upset on masvidal. GL!
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                                        • bjpenn85
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 02-17-11
                                          • 5059

                                          #755
                                          I think you broke down the fight to the bone. From here on and out, you just have to pick a side on who you like. This is off course not a good bet, because you should not bet on a fights when you can make a strong case for both of them winnning. I like wiman as i am a huge fan of people with heart and strong will. Siver fades while wiman only gets stronger. Very often when fights is scored the man that win the last minutes of the secound round and the third round wins. I think that this man is wiman simply by hunting down the german outkast, and making it dirty. I think he got the stamina and power to refuse to let this match be a technical kickboxing bout, but a bloody mma war.
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                                          • illmatick
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-05-09
                                            • 5456

                                            #756
                                            Originally posted by illmatick
                                            few parlays for strikeforce......

                                            x2.25
                                            Alistair Overeem-350
                                            Daniel Cormier-450
                                            Cheick Kongo-175

                                            x.65
                                            Gesias Cavalcante-120
                                            Mavidal +135
                                            Valentijn Overeem +115

                                            x.35
                                            Cormier/Monson under 2.5 +210
                                            Rogers/Barnett under1.5 -115
                                            werdum/Reem under 1.5 -115

                                            adding....

                                            x1
                                            Overeem -310
                                            Griggs/V.Overeem wont start round 3 -453
                                            Cormier -525

                                            x.5
                                            Masvidal wins by 3 round decision +248
                                            Not V.Overeem inside distance -164
                                            Overeem -310
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                                            • illmatick
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 01-05-09
                                              • 5456

                                              #757
                                              Masvidal comes through for me. Should be around +2 units as well as an open parlay with Kongo. Might hedge with Barry by tko.
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                                              • illmatick
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 01-05-09
                                                • 5456

                                                #758
                                                Nate -150 x1.5
                                                Morecraft +180 X2

                                                edit..didn't think it would jump back over +200, added another unit at +210

                                                Morecraft +210 x1
                                                Last edited by illmatick; 06-20-11, 06:12 PM.
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                                                • rocky mattioli
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 08-26-10
                                                  • 1263

                                                  #759
                                                  nate now -120......nate not getting many hugs...
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                                                  • illmatick
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 01-05-09
                                                    • 5456

                                                    #760
                                                    Originally posted by rocky mattioli
                                                    nate now -120......nate not getting many hugs...
                                                    +100 now haha. The plan was to have a nice straddle with Story by decision. Don't see that happening now.
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                                                    • rocky mattioli
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 08-26-10
                                                      • 1263

                                                      #761
                                                      Originally posted by illmatick
                                                      +100 now haha. The plan was to have a nice straddle with Story by decision. Don't see that happening now.
                                                      i had story over alves....but this is a totally different animal,imo....i think this is an overreaction to the alves win...


                                                      story lost to nathan coy...granted it was a while ago......but to me,nate is like a much better version of coy....

                                                      maybe marquardt doesn`t make 170 easily....doesn`t matter...if story beats marquardt,my hat`s off to the guy...he has a lot more to think about with marquardt than he did with alves,imo....
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                                                      • rocky mattioli
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 08-26-10
                                                        • 1263

                                                        #762
                                                        now marquardt -125...as they say,this line is fluid...
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                                                        • illmatick
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 01-05-09
                                                          • 5456

                                                          #763
                                                          RICARDO LAMAS -165 x2
                                                          RICH ATTONITO -115 x2.5
                                                          LORENZ LARKIN -195 x2
                                                          JAVIER VAZQUEZ +180 x.75
                                                          CHARLES OLIVEIRA -215 x1


                                                          really like Olivera here. Plan on adding more as long as the line stays under -235. There's a descent chance the line drops back below -200. I'll wait until then.
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                                                          • illmatick
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 01-05-09
                                                            • 5456

                                                            #764
                                                            I'm a bit surprised to see how much early money is coming in on Manny. 65 cent move in his favor.

                                                            adding Griffen -220 x1
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                                                            • NunyaBidness
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 07-26-09
                                                              • 9345

                                                              #765
                                                              Originally posted by illmatick
                                                              I'm a bit surprised to see how much early money is coming in on Manny. 65 cent move in his favor.

                                                              adding Griffen -220 x1

                                                              Was just going to post the same thing.

                                                              I guess Manny was just a 'title challenger' while Griffin lost 3 in a row. Plus Griffin has 1 bad KO recently, and Manny has a recent KO win over Brown.

                                                              Hope the value train keeps coming.
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                                                              • illmatick
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 01-05-09
                                                                • 5456

                                                                #766
                                                                Lorenz Larkin -140 x2.5
                                                                Charles Olivera -160 x2
                                                                Ricardo -175 x1.5
                                                                Attonito -120 x1.5
                                                                Last edited by illmatick; 06-23-11, 01:57 PM.
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                                                                • illmatick
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 01-05-09
                                                                  • 5456

                                                                  #767
                                                                  Aside from a few insurance bets on Story and Lentz by decision this should be it as a far as straight plays. Should have a few parlays ready by Saturday.

                                                                  Lorenz Larkin -140 x2.5/LORENZ LARKIN -195 x2
                                                                  Charles Olivera -160 x2/CHARLES OLIVEIRA -215 x1
                                                                  RICARDO LAMAS -165 x2/Ricardo -175 x1.5
                                                                  RICH ATTONITO -115 x2.5/Attonito -120 x1.5
                                                                  JAVIER VAZQUEZ +180 x.75
                                                                  Nate -150 x1.5
                                                                  Griffen -220 x1
                                                                  Morecraft +180 X2/Morecraft +210 x1
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                                                                  • rocky mattioli
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 08-26-10
                                                                    • 1263

                                                                    #768
                                                                    the larkin line is sinking like a diving bell....he`s now the dog at 5 dimes....must be the wrestling of villante....

                                                                    i just can`t get that striking exhibition that larkin put on vs lighty out of my mind.....he did pretty much everything perfectly....

                                                                    i had to jump at larkin -130....

                                                                    we`ll see...wrestler`s have ruined my day before...
                                                                    Last edited by rocky mattioli; 06-23-11, 05:26 PM.
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                                                                    • Hannibal
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 05-15-11
                                                                      • 1055

                                                                      #769
                                                                      I agree!
                                                                      Dunno much about villante, but I just took larkin at -105. Larkin looks like something special.
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                                                                      • rocky mattioli
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 08-26-10
                                                                        • 1263

                                                                        #770
                                                                        Originally posted by Hannibal
                                                                        I agree!
                                                                        Dunno much about villante, but I just took larkin at -105. Larkin looks like something special.

                                                                        villante is the bigger guy...wrestled at(i think) hofstra.... somebody likes him....

                                                                        if we go down,we go down together...
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