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  • Vaughany
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 03-07-10
    • 45563

    #36
    Its not light the UFC is short of lightheavyweights to step in! Probly get an even better replacement - Phil Davis, Ryan Bader, Thiago Silva if they pull him out of the Boetsch matchup.
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    • THE_LOCKSMITH
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 08-25-08
      • 7237

      #37
      bring in Ricardo Arona
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      • The HOFF
        SBR MVP
        • 07-02-08
        • 4847

        #38
        Forrest Griffin's spot didn't stay empty very long.

        Mere hours after reports surfaced that the former light heavyweight champion had been forced out of his UFC 114 contest with Antonio Rogerio Nogueira, MMAjunkie.com has learned that Jason Brilz has agreed to take the fight on a little less than four-weeks' notice.

        Sources close to the promotion indicated that verbal agreements are in place and bout agreements are expected to be finalized shortly.
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        • Eccocide
          SBR MVP
          • 01-12-09
          • 2126

          #39
          Originally posted by Vaughany
          Its not light the UFC is short of lightheavyweights to step in! Probly get an even better replacement - Phil Davis, Ryan Bader, Thiago Silva if they pull him out of the Boetsch matchup.
          They've announced Brilz already but Bader and Thiago have fights booked and they wouldn't put a prospect like Davis in fight against a beast like lil nog on 3 weeks notice. Same goes for Jones. On the other hand, I dunno how you promote Brilz/Nog lol. Guess they will have to promote Miller/Bisping as the co-main event. Pissed, loved the line I had on lil nog.
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          • Vaughany
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 03-07-10
            • 45563

            #40
            Yee easy win for Lil Nog against Brilz. Who is Bader booked against?
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            • Educ8d Degener8
              SBR MVP
              • 01-12-10
              • 3177

              #41
              Originally posted by Eccocide
              ... Pissed, loved the line I had on lil nog.
              Same here
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              • Eccocide
                SBR MVP
                • 01-12-09
                • 2126

                #42
                Originally posted by Vaughany
                Yee easy win for Lil Nog against Brilz. Who is Bader booked against?
                NVM, I forgot he was supposed to fight Thiago Silva but had surgery 3 weeks ago on his hand. Gunna be out for a couple months.
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                • bogbat
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-21-10
                  • 1843

                  #43
                  How do you guys think the Lil Nog vs Brilz like will open? I signed up for alerts and will jump all over Lil Nog if it's -280 or better.
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                  • Preston09
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-19-09
                    • 1834

                    #44
                    probab;y heavy fav for lil nog
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                    • Eccocide
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-12-09
                      • 2126

                      #45
                      Originally posted by bogbat
                      How do you guys think the Lil Nog vs Brilz like will open? I signed up for alerts and will jump all over Lil Nog if it's -280 or better.
                      He was -290 vs Forrest...I'd go with -550 or higher lol.
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                      • illmatick
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-05-09
                        • 5456

                        #46
                        just lost out on some of the easiest money of the year, Nog is probably -600 over Brilz
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                        • cky312
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 12-22-09
                          • 197

                          #47


                          Odds now up on bodog for a few more matchups, the Escudero fight should be a lock but odds are too one sided for nothing more than another leg on parlays. Loving stungun as a favorite!
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                          • Educ8d Degener8
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-12-10
                            • 3177

                            #48
                            Originally posted by cky312

                            Odds now up on bodog for a few more matchups, the Escudero fight should be a lock but odds are too one sided for nothing more than another leg on parlays. Loving stungun as a favorite!
                            Agreed... I have a feeling that line is gonna move quick...
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                            • Vrakas
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 02-27-10
                              • 627

                              #49
                              That sucks that Griffin had to pull out.
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                              • Eccocide
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-12-09
                                • 2126

                                #50
                                Originally posted by cky312

                                Odds now up on bodog for a few more matchups, the Escudero fight should be a lock but odds are too one sided for nothing more than another leg on parlays. Loving stungun as a favorite!
                                I don't have Escudero anywhere near a lock. I think that line is ridiculous lol. I do love stungun as well though.
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                                • brooks85
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-05-09
                                  • 44709

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by Eccocide
                                  I don't have Escudero anywhere near a lock. I think that line is ridiculous lol. I do love stungun as well though.

                                  I concur

                                  I had my eye on lauzon in this matchup, but never thought he would be +300. I loaded up at bodog so i could bet him and stungun early, the other books need to open the lines asap.
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                                  • THE_LOCKSMITH
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 08-25-08
                                    • 7237

                                    #52
                                    looks like the money is slowly coming in on Evans, was a +130 now at most books is a slight fav
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                                    • focustig
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 05-03-10
                                      • 4

                                      #53
                                      Damn, Rashand and Rampage are at close odds. I'm going to have to go with Mr. T. on that one. Any thoughts?
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                                      • stefan084
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 07-21-09
                                        • 1490

                                        #54
                                        does no one like amir against stun gun? he seems to be really improving with every fight and fighting with a good game plan, i could see him winning a decision. with rampage i agree with Tree that the time off might cost him the fight. speed is rashads, power is rampages. what i think will happen is rashad will start out doing his fast little dance, juking up and down for a minute then they both start winging haymakers. the problem is rashads suspect chin vs his speed advantage. i don't think the fight gets out of the first with the first solid shot landed ending the fight. i wish rampage would KO rashad but i think more likely it will be rashad getting the flash KO with both swinging at the same time like with Chuck, then we'll be forced to listen to irritating smack talk for about 3 minutes while Joe tries to get a word in edgewise
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                                        • Vaughany
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 03-07-10
                                          • 45563

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by stefan084
                                          does no one like amir against stun gun? he seems to be really improving with every fight and fighting with a good game plan, i could see him winning a decision. with rampage i agree with Tree that the time off might cost him the fight. speed is rashads, power is rampages. what i think will happen is rashad will start out doing his fast little dance, juking up and down for a minute then they both start winging haymakers. the problem is rashads suspect chin vs his speed advantage. i don't think the fight gets out of the first with the first solid shot landed ending the fight. i wish rampage would KO rashad but i think more likely it will be rashad getting the flash KO with both swinging at the same time like with Chuck, then we'll be forced to listen to irritating smack talk for about 3 minutes while Joe tries to get a word in edgewise
                                          I agree, I think Amir could get a decision, however ther is more value with Dong in my opinion. Although Ill more than likely just be betting on it going to decision rather then betting on one of them to win. Amir's last two fights and Dong's last 3 have gone to decision.
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                                          • brooks85
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-05-09
                                            • 44709

                                            #56
                                            rashad could hardly handle a guy who had 3 herniated disc in his back before the fight even started. Im unloading on page.
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                                            • Vaughany
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 03-07-10
                                              • 45563

                                              #57
                                              Yee I see Rashad gettin KOd late second round or third round!
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                                              • THE_LOCKSMITH
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 08-25-08
                                                • 7237

                                                #58
                                                Rampage is looking a bit fat in these primetime shows
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                                                • 36mafia
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 11-08-09
                                                  • 2389

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by focustig
                                                  Damn, Rashand and Rampage are at close odds. I'm going to have to go with Mr. T. on that one. Any thoughts?
                                                  page one covers both sides of the fight in good detail
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                                                  • Varker
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 04-03-10
                                                    • 283

                                                    #60
                                                    rampage ftw
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                                                    • Pabinator
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 10-04-09
                                                      • 1238

                                                      #61
                                                      Before the Machida & his last fight I woulda bet anything on Rashaad to win this fight, but now he seemed a little gun shy vs Thiago.... But now I'd say he should still have a easy time to win this fight so if you can get even money, I'd take him. Rampage has not looked good to me in his last few fights..
                                                      Shut your mouth when you talk to Me!
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                                                      • cky312
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 12-22-09
                                                        • 197

                                                        #62
                                                        Anyone care to elaborate on their take on the Escudero Lauzon fight? Dan Lauzon got overwhelmed by Cole Miller in his last fight, and he doesn't have a credible win against a quality opponent. I know TUF winners are almost always busts and even though MMAth never works but simply looking at just the fact that Escudero TKO'd Miller, and Miller subbed Lauzon. I just don't see Dan winning the fight IMO.
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                                                        • need4speed
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 04-30-10
                                                          • 156

                                                          #63
                                                          You have to question a fighters motives after they have lived the movie star life for a year. There are lots of donuts, easy women, and energy drinks on set all the time, and we know rampage has had his problems with all three.
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                                                          • ThisGuy
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 03-12-10
                                                            • 517

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by cky312
                                                            I know TUF winners are almost always busts
                                                            Guess it depends on your definition of busts but by my count looks like the opposite

                                                            Not busts - Rashad, Nate Diaz, Bisping, Grove, Roy Nelson, Diego Sanchez, Joe Daddy, Forrest, Ross Pearson, Ryan Bader

                                                            Up in the air - Amir Sodallah and Efrain

                                                            Only busts (or probable busts) - James Wilks, Mac Danzig
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                                                            • Vrakas
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 02-27-10
                                                              • 627

                                                              #65
                                                              Rampage looks scared on primetime, while Rashad looks ready to fight. Rampage's training camp doesn't even compare to Rashad's. It's hard to say how ready and prepared Rampage is after such a long lay off, but even at his best, this should be an easy win for Rashad. Rashad can win this fight where ever he wants to take it.
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                                                              • stefan084
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 07-21-09
                                                                • 1490

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Vrakas
                                                                Rampage looks scared on primetime, while Rashad looks ready to fight. Rampage's training camp doesn't even compare to Rashad's. It's hard to say how ready and prepared Rampage is after such a long lay off, but even at his best, this should be an easy win for Rashad. Rashad can win this fight where ever he wants to take it.
                                                                i think rashad is faster but rampage has a strength advantage-i think rashad would do best to keep it standing
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                                                                • JMUplayer
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 08-27-09
                                                                  • 2765

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Stun Gun ? --- When is the last time a fighter from Asia actually beat someone credible in the UFC?
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                                                                  • 36mafia
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 11-08-09
                                                                    • 2389

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by stefan084
                                                                    i think rashad is faster but rampage has a strength advantage-i think rashad would do best to keep it standing
                                                                    rashad might come in with the same gameplan he had with thiago silva, strike in and out and steal points with takedowns.
                                                                    the odds are just about even now at most books so if youre on suga's side and playing at 5 dimes lay it on either rashad by decision +218 or inside distance @ +304
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                                                                    • brooks85
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 01-05-09
                                                                      • 44709

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Well there is no doubt in my mind if thiago did not have 3 herniated disc in his spine weeks prior to the fight and during it, he would have wrecked rashad. Even with the injury he easily outstricked rashad and was one punch or combo away from ending the fight in the 3rd.

                                                                      The biggest advantage rashad has is Page's long layoff.
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                                                                      • smarmy
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 08-03-08
                                                                        • 1863

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Why does Melvin Guillard keep getting fights? This guy is garbage.
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