UFC 239: Jones vs. Santos (July 06, 2019)

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  • jacharron17
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    • 01-22-19
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    #36
    Anyone see value in Thiago Santos, or are there too many holes in his game for Jon Jones to exploit? I have this fight as 72/28 for Jones, so some value on Santos.
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    • Hugo de Naranja
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      #37
      Originally posted by jacharron17
      Anyone see value in Thiago Santos, or are there too many holes in his game for Jon Jones to exploit? I have this fight as 72/28 for Jones, so some value on Santos.
      Too many holes for Jones to exploit.
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      • jacharron17
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        • 01-22-19
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        #38
        Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
        Too many holes for Jones to exploit.
        That's what I figure. Thanks for the reply Hugo!
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        • Hugo de Naranja
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          • 04-14-16
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          #39
          This is your hourly reminder that Eryk Anders played football at Alabama.
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          • magpie878
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            #40
            Don't believe any Santos hype this week. That last fight was especially a joke, guy didn't even attack, sat getting punched. JJ isn't going to sit back.
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            • Hugo de Naranja
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              #41
              Originally posted by magpie878
              Don't believe any Santos hype this week. That last fight was especially a joke, guy didn't even attack, sat getting punched. JJ isn't going to sit back.
              Bones Jones all day
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              • magpie878
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                • 10-04-18
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                #42
                Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                Bones Jones all day
                My issue right now is what to bet. Jones wins by decisions as well as other ways, whereas you pretty much know what you're getting with Ngannou.

                Not sure how I'll bet this one.
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                • firekillex
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                  • 09-18-13
                  • 6420

                  #43
                  Originally posted by magpie878
                  My issue right now is what to bet. Jones wins by decisions as well as other ways, whereas you pretty much know what you're getting with Ngannou.

                  Not sure how I'll bet this one.
                  only way to bet this is props really..
                  i highly doubt this goes to a decision the way Santos fights hell gas if he doesnt get a KO
                  tough to decide Jones by tko or sub .... i see him getting a takedown and landing damaging shots will he get the tko off that or hurt him and sink in a submission?
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                  • bjpenn85
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                    #44
                    Yadong Song!!!
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                    • PaperTrail07
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                      • 08-29-08
                      • 20423

                      #45
                      Just got back from Vegas for a Week.....Destroyed the last card LIVE.....looking to crush this one as well...
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                      • Baraldsson
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                        • 05-18-19
                        • 514

                        #46
                        Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                        Just got back from Vegas for a Week.....Destroyed the last card LIVE.....looking to crush this one as well...
                        What way you see the Askren vs Masvidal & Nunes vs Holm fights playing out, Paper?
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                        • Teem
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                          • 04-11-17
                          • 343

                          #47
                          Gonna do 2 parlays...

                          Sanchez ML
                          Not Allen ITD OR Yadong ML OR Shahbazyan/Marshman No Dec

                          Askren ML
                          Gadelha ML
                          Naurdiev ML
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                          • Enfuego
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                            • 02-08-09
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by Teem
                            Gonna do 2 parlays...

                            Sanchez ML
                            Not Allen ITD OR Yadong ML OR Shahbazyan/Marshman No Dec

                            Askren ML
                            Gadelha ML
                            Naurdiev ML
                            Why Sanchez? Chiesa isn't Mickey Gall.
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                            • richie360
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                              • 03-30-11
                              • 680

                              #49
                              Cheisa gets rid of Sanchez early. Love Diego but anyone who isn’t the lowest level of opposition deals with him comfortably now.
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                              • PaperTrail07
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                                • 08-29-08
                                • 20423

                                #50
                                Right--im w ya....maybe not early...but end result is a sanchez loss here...
                                Originally posted by richie360
                                Cheisa gets rid of Sanchez early. Love Diego but anyone who isn’t the lowest level of opposition deals with him comfortably now.
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                                • Thrilla
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                                  • 03-10-15
                                  • 13809

                                  #51
                                  Event Background

                                  A UFC Light Heavyweight Championship bout between current two-time champion Jon Jones and Thiago Santos is expected to serve as the event headliner.[3]

                                  A UFC Women's Bantamweight Championship bout between the current champion Amanda Nunes (also current UFC Women's Featherweight Champion) and former champion Holly Holm is expected to serve as the event co-headliner.[3]

                                  A bout between former UFC Heavyweight title challenger Francis Ngannou and former UFC Heavyweight Champion Junior dos Santos was scheduled to take place at this event.[4] The matchup was originally scheduled to take place in September 2017 at UFC 215, but dos Santos pulled out of that event, citing a failed drug test.[5] However, it was reported on May 21, that the bout was being moved to headline UFC on ESPN 3 after former UFC Welterweight ChampionTyron Woodley was forced to pull out of his rematch against also former champion Robbie Lawler due to a hand injury.[6]

                                  A featherweight bout between former Strikeforce and WEC Lightweight Champion (as well as former UFC Lightweight Championship challenger) Gilbert Melendez and Arnold Allen has been scheduled for the event.[7] The matchup was originally scheduled to take place in November 2018 at The Ultimate Fighter: Heavy Hitters Finale, however Melendez pulled out of the fight citing an injury.[8]

                                  A bantamweight bout between The Ultimate Fighter: Latin America bantamweight winner Alejandro Pérez and Yadong Song is scheduled to take place at this event.[9] The matchup was originally scheduled to take place in March 2019 at UFC 235, but Song pulled out of the fight for undisclosed reasons.[10]

                                  Sean O'Malley was expected to face Marlon Vera at the event. However, O'Malley announced his withdraw from the bout on June 21 due a failed test for ostarine. The Nevada State Athletic Commission decided to suspend him due to the failed test, however the United States Anti Doping Association USADA will not impose any further sanctions. The ostarine in his system was likely residual from his previously failed test prior to UFC 229.[11] O'Malley was replaced by newcomer Nohelin Hernandez.[12]

                                  Melissa Gatto was scheduled to face Julia Avila at the event. However, Gatto was removed from the card on June 24 for undisclosed reasons and replaced by returning veteran Pannie Kianzad.[13]


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                                  • Thrilla
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                                    • 03-10-15
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                                    #52
                                    Two of the greatest mixed martial artists of all time return to the Octagon to defend their belts. Jon Jones faces Thiago Santos and Amanda Nunes takes on former champion Holly Holm. See these athletes train and prepare for their UFC 239 bouts.

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                                    • Sanity Check
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                                      • 03-30-13
                                      • 10962

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by richie360
                                      Cheisa gets rid of Sanchez early. Love Diego but anyone who isn’t the lowest level of opposition deals with him comfortably now.
                                      No love for Diego Sanchez.

                                      Sad, sad, world we're living in.
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                                      • Teem
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                                        • 04-11-17
                                        • 343

                                        #54
                                        How does Chiesa take out Sanchez early? He doesn't KO anybody and he himself has been subbed several times...
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                                        • PaperTrail07
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                                          • 08-29-08
                                          • 20423

                                          #55
                                          I picture Chiesa being able to get the TD but Sanchez will be active off his back.....just depends what chisea is able to do with a TD...
                                          Originally posted by Teem
                                          How does Chiesa take out Sanchez early? He doesn't KO anybody and he himself has been subbed several times...
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                                          • PaperTrail07
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                                            • 08-29-08
                                            • 20423

                                            #56
                                            I love Askren--been wanting him in the UFC for YEARS....however-they could not have picked a more dangerous opponent in Masvidal- I cant look past the Maia fight -he made defense look somewhat easy.....that said I am leaning Masvidal....I also want to see a Askren by decision prop but I cant imagine it will be great.....If mas can keep it on the feet he could get the TKO....the Holm fight for me is tough just because I think they pegged the line.....I will probably have small money on the decision for Holm and just pray the fix is in lol.....gun to the head Nunes probably ends it ITD...... What do you think?
                                            Originally posted by Baraldsson
                                            What way you see the Askren vs Masvidal & Nunes vs Holm fights playing out, Paper?
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                                            • magpie878
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                                              #57
                                              Checked DK for you, just to see, but no props of any kind on the Askren fight yet.
                                              Last edited by magpie878; 07-02-19, 02:37 PM. Reason: past tense
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                                              • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                • 04-14-16
                                                • 14140

                                                #58
                                                Askren Decision is like (+100) on Dimes
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                                                • JIBBBY
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                                                  • 12-10-09
                                                  • 83691

                                                  #59
                                                  Looking at parlaying JJ and Amanda ITD props.. I think Santos and Holly Holm lose and lose ITD.. Liking the wrestler in Ben Asken, may hedge with the Masvidal KO but maybe not.. Starting to cap this event now.. This is what I'm seeing early on in the big fights.. Props


                                                  1229 Masvidal wins by TKO/KO +350
                                                  1211 Askren wins by 3 round decision -106


                                                  1109 Nunes wins inside distance -119
                                                  1009 Jones wins inside distance -210
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                                                  • JIBBBY
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                                                    • 12-10-09
                                                    • 83691

                                                    #60
                                                    This is a great card!!!!!
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                                                    • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                      • 04-14-16
                                                      • 14140

                                                      #61
                                                      I'm liking where your head is at Jibs.
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                                                      • JIBBBY
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                                                        • 12-10-09
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                        I'm liking where your head is at Jibs.
                                                        Well it's alot easier to gauge and bet on fighters that you really know. This card is stacked with vets we really know. I know the fighters on this card.. So do you..


                                                        Cards like this you don't even need to really cap to be honest. Just get fighter updates. You know how the fights will probably go.

                                                        We should clean up Hugo.
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                                                        • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                          • 04-14-16
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                                                          #63
                                                          Have my biggest bet in a long time on Rockhold ML at (-156). 7.8u to win 5u. Let's go Luke!
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                                                          • LBfightlife
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                                                            • 03-31-16
                                                            • 240

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                            Just got back from Vegas for a Week.....Destroyed the last card LIVE.....looking to crush this one as well...
                                                            Any tips for live betting in Vegas, never done it before. I am going to be at the show so I guess my action would have to be on 5 dimes?


                                                            Also guys what are you thinking about Gilbert in this fight?
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                                                            • Baraldsson
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                                                              • 05-18-19
                                                              • 514

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                              I love Askren--been wanting him in the UFC for YEARS....however-they could not have picked a more dangerous opponent in Masvidal- I cant look past the Maia fight -he made defense look somewhat easy.....that said I am leaning Masvidal....I also want to see a Askren by decision prop but I cant imagine it will be great.....If mas can keep it on the feet he could get the TKO....the Holm fight for me is tough just because I think they pegged the line.....I will probably have small money on the decision for Holm and just pray the fix is in lol.....gun to the head Nunes probably ends it ITD...... What do you think?
                                                              I'm taking Askren and Nunes. Agree Masvidal is a very dangerous opponent, hoping Askren can avoid getting KOd/TKOd and take a decision or maybe even sub. Showed good chin and great heart after Lawler slammed him on his head so I'm hoping he gets the job done again here.

                                                              I could see Nunes getting the finish early as long as she avoids getting kicked in the head. Not a huge Holly fan at all, despite really enjoying her dismantling Ronda. See her as fairly limited overall and I don't think she'll be able to take Amanda's strikes for too long.

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                                                              • bjpenn85
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                                                                • 02-17-11
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                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                                Have my biggest bet in a long time on Rockhold ML at (-156). 7.8u to win 5u. Let's go Luke!
                                                                Risky bet here i think. Rockhold has a very bad attitude, bad defence, perhaps bad chin. Blachowichz is also a good striker.

                                                                Rockhold at his best is perhaps as good as Jon Jones, so its not a skill thing, its 100% mental.

                                                                Talking about title fights...can be Bisping fight all over again.

                                                                Im making a small bet on Rockhold myself, but its is with hedge, and i have very little confidence in this bet. But i have to make it, because rockhold should win...but....hes not trustworthy
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                                                                • Sanity Check
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                                                                  • 03-30-13
                                                                  • 10962

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by LBfightlife
                                                                  Also guys what are you thinking about Gilbert in this fight?

                                                                  I think it could be fustrating for him fighting a guy using the GSP/Rory MacDonald jab-and-run style of fighting who also has a good wrestling/sub game.
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                                                                  • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                                    • 04-14-16
                                                                    • 14140

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by bjpenn85
                                                                    Risky bet here i think. Rockhold has a very bad attitude, bad defence, perhaps bad chin. Blachowichz is also a good striker.

                                                                    Rockhold at his best is perhaps as good as Jon Jones, so its not a skill thing, its 100% mental.

                                                                    Talking about title fights...can be Bisping fight all over again.

                                                                    Im making a small bet on Rockhold myself, but its is with hedge, and i have very little confidence in this bet. But i have to make it, because rockhold should win...but....hes not trustworthy
                                                                    Great style matchup for him. I think the only way Rockhold loses is by KO and that’s an easy hedge at (+550)
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                                                                    • PaperTrail07
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                                                                      • 08-29-08
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Oh for sure....I was just impressed with Masvidal vs Maia.....hence I'm thinking he can avoid/stay up vs funky....funky on the feet=loss.....he gets the TD.......I feel mas has decent defense as well....Nunes-I agree.... Both are great fights....
                                                                      Originally posted by Baraldsson
                                                                      I'm taking Askren and Nunes. Agree Masvidal is a very dangerous opponent, hoping Askren can avoid getting KOd/TKOd and take a decision or maybe even sub. Showed good chin and great heart after Lawler slammed him on his head so I'm hoping he gets the job done again here.

                                                                      I could see Nunes getting the finish early as long as she avoids getting kicked in the head. Not a huge Holly fan at all, despite really enjoying her dismantling Ronda. See her as fairly limited overall and I don't think she'll be able to take Amanda's strikes for too long.

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                                                                      • Demonata
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                                                                        • 07-12-11
                                                                        • 25829

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Song ya dong is a cool and interesting name. Probably got to bet on the dong. I always trust my dong. 😆
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