UFC 223: Ferguson vs. Khabib (April 07, 2018)

[Kermit]

Didn't Al Iaquinta do an interview not long ago saying that the UFC would have to pay him a million dollars to fight Kabib?

[Teem]

Felder vs Pettis now?

I hope so!

[Kermit]

Only Kabib can win the title as Al Iaqunta was .2 pounds over championship weight.

[PaperTrail07]

wow...

Only Kabib can win the title as Al Iaqunta was .2 pounds over championship weight.

[Kermit]

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UFC just officially announced Khabib vs Iaquinta tomorrow night and all the stips for the belt. It is a done deal.


4:02 PM - 6 Apr 2018

[PaperTrail07]

Damn Felder VS Pettis NOT Happening...

[Kermit]

Damn Felder VS Pettis NOT Happening...

No, I think they train together.

[PaperTrail07]

Top level....who cares lol...but I hear ya...

No, I think they train together.

[Kermit]

Wait.

Iaquinta weighed in at 155???

He IS fighting for the title.

[TPowell]

Rewatched JJ and Rose again. Crazy how Rose threw the same combo twice (after the 1st KD of JJ) and JJ got destroyed by it the second time around. JJ didn't look sharp at all. She's throwing out this loopy left straight? that is a Moroz like "get away from me" punch. I think I'll have to pass but I do believe JJ should be much sharper on the feet this go around. If Rose wasn't much better on the mat, I would probably play it

[firekillex]

Al Iaquinta has a better shot at beating khabib then holloway or pettis did

dont @ me

[firekillex]

Felder vs Pettis now?

theyre teammates im pretty sure.. they wont be fighting eachother
i heard theyll get new opponents in the coming month

[Kermit]

Al Iaquinta has a better shot at beating khabib then holloway or pettis did

dont @ me

Agree 100%. Especially Max, coming off an injury, not great at avoiding the takedown.

[Kermit]

They actually weighed Iaquinta's underwear which were .2 pounds, which is why Iaquinta is also fighting for the title(But not sanctioned by the NYSAC) so he cannot be claimed the champion tomorrow night if he wins. It is something that they'll have to figure out next week.

[firekillex]

They actually weighed Iaquinta's underwear which were .2 pounds, which is why Iaquinta is also fighting for the title(But not sanctioned by the NYSAC) so he cannot be claimed the champion tomorrow night if he wins. It is something that they'll have to figure out next week.

jesus christ NYC commission doing UFC 0 favors lmao

im actually pumped for Iaquinta vs Khabib ... great style matchup if Iaquinta is healthy im excited to see how this goes... anybody who follows Iaquintas story will be rooting for him and im one of those people haha

[Kermit]

jesus christ NYC commission doing UFC 0 favors lmao

im actually pumped for Iaquinta vs Khabib ... great style matchup if Iaquinta is healthy im excited to see how this goes... anybody who follows Iaquintas story will be rooting for him and im one of those people haha

I am too. I am a huge fan of Kabib, but I am going to be quietly rooting for Al. I think this is going to be a much closer match up than Pettis or even Max.

Al even had to make his own sign for media day because the printer fukked up.

[RussianMike]

Al Iaquinta has a better shot at beating khabib then holloway or pettis did

dont @ me

On the cool, based off style match-ups, he's got a better shot at it than Tony probably did. Would not surprise me one bit if he wins.

[RussianMike]

JJ down to -105. Kind of like her in this spot after rose being on that bus and all the craziness going on

If taking JJ at -105, parlay it with over the 3 1/2 all day long for some extra kibble. To win she's gonna need to keep composure and distance. Can't see her taking the chances needed to finish in 3.5.

[RussianMike]

LOL. Just noticed everyone on here has 15K+ posts. LOL. How the penetrate does that even happen?

[Kermit]

LOL. Just noticed everyone on here has 15K+ posts. LOL. How the penetrate does that even happen?

A lot of drunk late night ramblings.

[Sanity Check]

LOL. Just noticed everyone on here has 15K+ posts. LOL. How the penetrate does that even happen?

Checking my post count.

Edit: Hm. Not bad.

[Shagdogy]

Moicano/Kattar is an EXCELLENT fight. Anyone who thinks they have a clear edge picking a winner in that fight is kidding themselves. I def can't bet it with any confidence. I'm leeeeaaaaning Moicano by the slightest margin, just because he has demonstrated successful TDs at the UFC level, as well as excellent kicking ability to go with his improving hands. Kattar's boxing is also very very good though. Long, fast, and accurate. He also might be a bit more powerful and durable here. Very excellent fight. No bet for me. Tiniest lean to Moicano, though gut wants to pull me to Kattar.

[Richard Clock]

Moicano/Kattar is an EXCELLENT fight. Anyone who thinks they have a clear edge picking a winner in that fight is kidding themselves. I def can't bet it with any confidence. I'm leeeeaaaaning Moicano by the slightest margin, just because he has demonstrated successful TDs at the UFC level, as well as excellent kicking ability to go with his improving hands. Kattar's boxing is also very very good though. Long, fast, and accurate. He also might be a bit more powerful and durable here. Very excellent fight. No bet for me. Tiniest lean to Moicano, though gut wants to pull me to Kattar.

Yep, this is my lean based on my analysis. The big question is that we just havn't seen Kattar get tested as a grappler consistently. I generally think Kattar is legitimately good overall, but I am a little bit hesitant in the fact that Kattar took so long to get to the UFC (now 30 years old with 20 career fights) and Kattar's low finish % outside of UFC. I think there is something we are missing in Kattar's game that hasn't yet been revealed that has limited his success over his career. Clearly gifted as a striker, but again, hasn't truly been tested by a grappler as decorated and as willing as Moicano. Moicano might be a little underrated coming off a loss to Ortega, (he generally looked great in that fight). He is still an excellent and improving prospect with a very impressive resume of performances. Still, a significant advantage in the striking, particularly in the footwork and fluidity in boxing, exists for Moicano. Moicano does a good job of assessing his opponents' strengths and weaknesses and adjusts his strategy based on this. Pretty close to a 50-50 fight, but haven't quite been able to pull the trigger on Moicano at plus odds. Moicano by sub might also be interesting as odds shift.

[turbozed]

If taking JJ at -105, parlay it with over the 3 1/2 all day long for some extra kibble. To win she's gonna need to keep composure and distance. Can't see her taking the chances needed to finish in 3.5.

Which books let you parlay side and o/u in a single match? 5d and BM definitely don't

[Richard Clock]

I think Al has been impressive, but my cause for hesitation is that he hasn't fought the level of comp Max and Ferg has for me to know just how good he is. I think people tend to get too caught up in breaking a down stylistically when in this case, Khabib may just be a tier above Al in overall talent/competency. I don't feel that way about Khabib vs Holloway/Ferg, where I the difference in overall talent and MMA success is less evident. With that being said, the Khabib hype train is a little out of control and Al is moving into the +600 range.

[Kermit]

I think Al has been impressive, but my cause for hesitation is that he hasn't fought the level of comp Max and Ferg has for me to know just how good he is. I think people tend to get too caught up in breaking a down stylistically when in this case, Khabib may just be a tier above Al in overall talent/competency. I don't feel that way about Khabib vs Holloway/Ferg, where I the difference in overall talent and MMA success is less evident. With that being said, the Khabib hype train is a little out of control and Al is moving into the +600 range.

I agree. Max was something like +350 coming off of an ankle injury and recently being cleared to spar. Al is at 100% and had a full camp. +600 seems crazy. I'm laying $100 on Al at that price.

[Sirius]

Fk Ray Borg

Why is he off the card and claiming to be eligible of a lawsuit aka injured?

In the embedded video he clearly had no glass in his eye and was in no discomfort after the window was smashed. He was wearing glasses and looked perfectly fine...

Fk this card

[JIBBBY]

There is only 9 fights on this card, no early prelims.. LOL... This card really got diced to pieces... 3 chick fights, other fight fill ins.... Pure garbage but we'll work with it. ..

http://www.ufc.com/

[Sato]

Worst fight week for any MMA event ever. Insane.

[JIBBBY]

I agree. Max was something like +350 coming off of an ankle injury and recently being cleared to spar. Al is at 100% and had a full camp. +600 seems crazy. I'm laying $100 on Al at that price.

Al kinda sucks.. He's gonna get put on his back, pounded on and then probably sub'd out since this is still a 5 rounder... Odds are steep though..

UFC 223 - Lightweight 5 rounds - Barclays Center - Brooklyn, New York - PPV
Sat 4/7		1001 Al Iaquinta		+500	o2½ +135
11:59PM		1002 Khabib Nurmagomedov		-700	u2½ -155

Lightweight Title Fight



Khabib
Nurmagomedov
"The Eagle"
vs
Al
Iaquinta
"Raging"

RUSSIA
Country
UNITED STATES

25-0-0
Record
13-3-1

32%
KO/TKO
54%

32%
SUB
8%

36%
DEC
38%

70 in
Height
69 in

155 lbs
Weight
155 lbs

70 in
Reach
70 in

40 in
Leg Reach
40 in

[Kermit]

Al kinda sucks.. He's gonna get put on his back and probably sub'd out. Odds are steep though..

Probably. He does have a pretty good takedown defense(something like 85%) but that most likely won't help him against that gorilla.

I just don't get the +500 to +600 odds.

[Richard Clock]

[QUOTE=JIBBBY;27704036]Al kinda sucks.. He's gonna get put on his back, pounded on and then probably sub'd out since this is still a 5 rounder... Odds are steep though..

Ragin' Al sucks? Since when? What are you basing that off of?

[JIBBBY]

[QUOTE=Richard Clock;27704088]

Al kinda sucks.. He's gonna get put on his back, pounded on and then probably sub'd out since this is still a 5 rounder... Odds are steep though..

Ragin' Al sucks? Since when? What are you basing that off of?

My take on Al...

He's fought basically over the hill cans in most of his wins lately.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Al-Iaquinta-42817

He got very lucky to get the split against Masvidal that I don't think he deserved.. Al is an ok fighter but not a world beater... Khabib should handle him..

[Richard Clock]

[QUOTE=JIBBBY;27704141]

My take on Al...

He's fought basically over the hill cans in most of his wins lately.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Al-Iaquinta-42817

He got very lucky to get the split against Masvidal that I don't think he deserved.. Al is an ok fighter but not a world beater... Khabib should handle him..

Can you point to the aspects of his game that he is particularly weak in? I couldn't find anything in the fights I've seen that really stood out.

Masvidal is an elite-level fighter and a stylistic nightmare for Al, so the fact that Al was able to keep the fight fairly competitive speaks to how good he is. Al is 8-2 in the UFC and his only losses were against Mitch Clarke, which was a fluke, and the very skilled Chiesa early in his career. His recent fights were against older fighters, yes, but the fact that he was able to run through them fairly easily shouldn't necessarily be held against him. Do you think he deserves to be around the top 10 at LW? I don't see why he shouldn't; and in that case, I am not sure how you can call him "just ok" and "kinda sucks".

[Thrilla]