UFC 220: Miocic Vs. Ngannou | 20.01.2018 (Boston, Massachusetts)

[turbozed]

I saw that Bovada had the Legacy fights tonight still up on the board during the actual fights and even slightly after they finished.. The first 2 fights only though.. Ooooops... I'm not sure many people picked up on that mistake besides me.. Books do some times drop the ball like that... I just happen to catch it..

Watch out betting on those since some books will try to shut you down for betting past the post.

[turbozed]

Just finished watching tape for Burgos - Kattar and I'm thinking that the line is way too wide here at 2-1. Burgos is entertaining as hell and I love his style, but it doesn't really matchup that well against Kattar.

Burgos is a pressure counterfighter, but he doesn't really land simultaneous counters. He kind of chills right outside of punching range and looks for spots to throw combinations in the pocket. He doesn't throw too much from long range. This is a problem against guys who try to play an outfighting game like Rosa in the first two rounds. You may disagree with the judges that scored the first 2 rounds for Rosa but bottom line is that Burgos had some trouble getting inside for those two rounds. He was in control and never looked in danger, but we've seen a lot of judges reward volume.

Kattar on the other hand doesn't really like to exchange much in the pocket. He likes to stay right outside of punching range too. But he manages the distance really well and knows just when a guy is close enough to land a 1-2. His striking is rote and doesn't have the variety of Burgos but he might not need it if Burgos steps into his range and allows him to throw some strikes and get out. Burgos' striking defense is not the best because he refuses to put his hands up. He walked into a lot of shots from Trator in the 3rd round and was forced to go for a takedown at one point. When Kattar fought Fili, Kattar was able to find the distance easier in Rds 2 and 3 despite the fact that Fili was using a lot of stance switching and lateral movement. I can see Kattar finding the distance even quicker against Burgos who stays heavy on his lead foot and walks forward in a line. If Kattar can feint and get Burgos to commit to slips before he throws, he can follow it up with his straight punches which are very accurate.

Burgos was finally able to get to Rosa in the 3rd round after Rosa danced around him, but Burgos had no fear of Rosa's power at all. Kattar doesn't have one shot power but I don't think he'll be easily walked down. I'm looking for any tape on Kattar fighting moving backwards to see if I'll back Kattar here, but I'm certainly not paying -200 for Burgos. A couple of other factors that might make a difference: Kattar will be fighting in front of a home crowd, and he does a good job of landing takedowns late to seal otherwise close rounds.

[BELM0NT]

Stipe is the play fellas, dont jump on the hype train. I take experience any day over the hype. Anyway the big play for this card is Rob Font, your welcome

[Shagdogy]

Just finished watching tape for Burgos - Kattar and I'm thinking that the line is way too wide here at 2-1. Burgos is entertaining as hell and I love his style, but it doesn't really matchup that well against Kattar.

Burgos is a pressure counterfighter, but he doesn't really land simultaneous counters. He kind of chills right outside of punching range and looks for spots to throw combinations in the pocket. He doesn't throw too much from long range. This is a problem against guys who try to play an outfighting game like Rosa in the first two rounds. You may disagree with the judges that scored the first 2 rounds for Rosa but bottom line is that Burgos had some trouble getting inside for those two rounds. He was in control and never looked in danger, but we've seen a lot of judges reward volume.

Kattar on the other hand doesn't really like to exchange much in the pocket. He likes to stay right outside of punching range too. But he manages the distance really well and knows just when a guy is close enough to land a 1-2. His striking is rote and doesn't have the variety of Burgos but he might not need it if Burgos steps into his range and allows him to throw some strikes and get out. Burgos' striking defense is not the best because he refuses to put his hands up. He walked into a lot of shots from Trator in the 3rd round and was forced to go for a takedown at one point. When Kattar fought Fili, Kattar was able to find the distance easier in Rds 2 and 3 despite the fact that Fili was using a lot of stance switching and lateral movement. I can see Kattar finding the distance even quicker against Burgos who stays heavy on his lead foot and walks forward in a line. If Kattar can feint and get Burgos to commit to slips before he throws, he can follow it up with his straight punches which are very accurate.

Burgos was finally able to get to Rosa in the 3rd round after Rosa danced around him, but Burgos had no fear of Rosa's power at all. Kattar doesn't have one shot power but I don't think he'll be easily walked down. I'm looking for any tape on Kattar fighting moving backwards to see if I'll back Kattar here, but I'm certainly not paying -200 for Burgos. A couple of other factors that might make a difference: Kattar will be fighting in front of a home crowd, and he does a good job of landing takedowns late to seal otherwise close rounds.

Damn turbo, I hate to have only two bets and be seeing them differently than you, but oh well, what can you do? I've played them both small.

I'll agree that there are very few, if any, actual good spots in this card.

[turbozed]

Damn turbo, I hate to have only two bets and be seeing them differently than you, but oh well, what can you do? I've played them both small.

I'll agree that there are very few, if any, actual good spots in this card.

Yeah people were saying that about the last card but I felt like I had a good read on that one since there were 4 WMMA fights. In this event, the only full unit wagered for me is on shitty Gian Villante. That should say everything.

[KingHawkins]

STRAIGHT WAGER01/19/18 20:51 EST
Bet $ 500.00 to win $ 384.62Result: Pending
UFC 220 - Boston MA
Dustin Ortiz vs Alexandre Pantoja01/20/18 20:40 EST
Alexandre Pantoja -130


STRAIGHT WAGER01/20/18 00:35 EST
Bet $ 115.00 to win $ 132.25Result: Pending
UFC 220 - Boston MA
Kyle Bochniak vs Brandon Davis01/20/18 21:40 EST
Kyle Bochniak +115

STRAIGHT WAGER01/20/18 10:22 EST
Bet $ 250.00 to win $ 166.67Result: Pending
UFC 220 - Boston MA
Francimar Barroso vs Gian Villante01/20/18 22:45 EST
Gian Villante -150

[Shagdogy]

Yeah people were saying that about the last card but I felt like I had a good read on that one since there were 4 WMMA fights. In this event, the only full unit wagered for me is on shitty Gian Villante. That should say everything.

Yup. I liked many spots on the last card. This one is an exercise in discipline IMO. If you're playing anything all that big then you're prob forcing it. So far just Davis and Burgos small for me. Might join you on Villante or may just put a few of my other leans in separate parlays with Cormier.

[Demonata]

Hi guys I got a question about ufc fight pass. I just payed for the paperview card tonight. Am I only allowed to watch it on one device at a time?or can I watch it on 2 at the same time? Thanks

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

[BELM0NT]

lock pick fade

[GoBlue77]

think people forger Stipe beat 4 WASHED UP fighters.

[JIBBBY]

This ain't white boy day.. Stipe going down.. That's powerful scary black man he is facing ..

[JIBBBY]

Quick weigh look for all fights with this link below if you wanna breeze through it and missed it.. Little bad blood with DC and Volkan.. Francis looks much bigger then Stipe...

http://mmajunkie.com/2018/01/ufc-220-ceremonial-weigh-in-video-highlights-photos-are-you-ready-for-two-big-title-fights

[Demonata]

Can anybody help me? If you buy paperview fight on ufc app can i watch ut at 2 places at once?

[BELM0NT]

Can anybody help me? If you buy paperview fight on ufc app can i watch ut at 2 places at once?

id try installing the app on your phone and playing it from a computer at the same time

[JIBBBY]

Can anybody help me? If you buy paperview fight on ufc app can i watch ut at 2 places at once?

I've never tried it on 2 devices at once.. I'd say probably not because that would mean you could be selling it to other parties or sharing with all your friends and whom ever.. My guess is they try and limit the sharing..

[Demonata]

id try installing the app on your phone and playing it from a computer at the same time

Yeah but i bought it for my mom in another state if i wait till event starts there will be no seats left at the bar. So i need to know before it starts?

[Demonata]

I've never tried it on 2 devices at once.. I'd say probably not because that would mean you could be selling it to other parties or sharing with all your friends and whom ever.. My guess is they try and limit the sharing..

I wish i could know for sure

[Demonata]

I just really need to know because i broke a knuckle on my hand from punching the wall after del potro lost in tennis and when utah jazz lost last night. So not in the mood for going to a bar to watch it this time. So really want to stay home

[KingHawkins]

I just really need to know because i broke a knuckle on my hand from punching the wall after del potro lost in tennis and when utah jazz lost last night. So not in the mood for going to a bar to watch it this time. So really want to stay home

Legend shit. Sorry about DelPo.
I think the answer Demonata, is one active stream per UFC login.

[JIBBBY]

I just really need to know because i broke a knuckle on my hand from punching the wall after del potro lost in tennis and when utah jazz lost last night. So not in the mood for going to a bar to watch it this time. So really want to stay home

It would be a trip watching a UFC event with you Dem and watching you hit walls and break shiiit. Gotta control those emotions and go to a happy place when you lose it like that ..

[Demonata]

Legend shit. Sorry about DelPo.
I think the answer Demonata, is one active stream per UFC login.

Yeah it sucked bad. I tried to keep calm but he couldnt win even one set and lost most points on his own fiest serve. Then i hedged out of jazz moneyline with knocks -3 and jazz miss a 3 at the end of the gane down 5 with 2 seconds left tjey go to review to see who ball was off and change call and give jazz another shot with one second left and mitchell makes a garbage 3 at buzzer so jazz lose by 2. I yelled really loud and head butted wall only once. Than needed del potro to save my bets and he lost really easy to bird bitch. So couldnt handle it and kept punching wall until one knuckle broke. Got my hand wrapped up and cleaned blood off wall

[Hugo de Naranja]

Just finished watching tape for Burgos - Kattar and I'm thinking that the line is way too wide here at 2-1. Burgos is entertaining as hell and I love his style, but it doesn't really matchup that well against Kattar.

Burgos is a pressure counterfighter, but he doesn't really land simultaneous counters. He kind of chills right outside of punching range and looks for spots to throw combinations in the pocket. He doesn't throw too much from long range. This is a problem against guys who try to play an outfighting game like Rosa in the first two rounds. You may disagree with the judges that scored the first 2 rounds for Rosa but bottom line is that Burgos had some trouble getting inside for those two rounds. He was in control and never looked in danger, but we've seen a lot of judges reward volume.

Kattar on the other hand doesn't really like to exchange much in the pocket. He likes to stay right outside of punching range too. But he manages the distance really well and knows just when a guy is close enough to land a 1-2. His striking is rote and doesn't have the variety of Burgos but he might not need it if Burgos steps into his range and allows him to throw some strikes and get out. Burgos' striking defense is not the best because he refuses to put his hands up. He walked into a lot of shots from Trator in the 3rd round and was forced to go for a takedown at one point. When Kattar fought Fili, Kattar was able to find the distance easier in Rds 2 and 3 despite the fact that Fili was using a lot of stance switching and lateral movement. I can see Kattar finding the distance even quicker against Burgos who stays heavy on his lead foot and walks forward in a line. If Kattar can feint and get Burgos to commit to slips before he throws, he can follow it up with his straight punches which are very accurate.

Burgos was finally able to get to Rosa in the 3rd round after Rosa danced around him, but Burgos had no fear of Rosa's power at all. Kattar doesn't have one shot power but I don't think he'll be easily walked down. I'm looking for any tape on Kattar fighting moving backwards to see if I'll back Kattar here, but I'm certainly not paying -200 for Burgos. A couple of other factors that might make a difference: Kattar will be fighting in front of a home crowd, and he does a good job of landing takedowns late to seal otherwise close rounds.

After rewatching the Fili fight, I didn't remember it being as close as it was. I thought that Fili was just edging a few of those rounds until the last 30 seconds or so where Kattar would steal the round with a late TD and GnP. Burgos has very stout TDD so I don't see that happening here.

[Hugo de Naranja]

think people forger Stipe beat 4 WASHED UP fighters.

By that logic didn't Ngannou only beat 2 WASHED UP fighters?

[Demonata]

It would be a trip watching a UFC event with you Dem and watching you hit walls and break shiiit. Gotta control those emotions and go to a happy place when you lose it like that ..

Haha. Yeah i get mad i can be cool as a cucumber and then the next second a demon from hell wanting to cause mayhem and attack the world until cant handle it. Like a Viking going into battle until they due or run out of enemies to kill . I cashed out $600 profit thats in limbo waiting to get to bank. I wanted to put $500 on Ngannou cormier parlay. Losing enough money for a cheap car on jazz and del potro is going to make my bet way smaller. Yeah i have anger problems. When i did mma fights i woukd fight dirty or get so pissed and do tons of dumb decisions.

[Demonata]

Wow i was so mad last night. Wtf was i even saying lmfao!! https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...l#post27524676

[Hugo de Naranja]

Also where the penetrate are the -3.5 spreads?

[Hugo de Naranja]

5D support says they will be up in an hour.

[BIGDAY]

Taking Miocic tonight.

His fight IQ is best in division. Late round finish imo.

Good luck tonight fellas!!

[JIBBBY]

I say Stipe catches the Francis upper cup from hell... Stipe gets slept in this one.. We've never seen Stipe completely unconscious before, but we may see him go out tonight..

Stipe better get his wrestling on if he wants to survive.. You do not want to stand and trade with this black man!!!!

Heavyweight Title Fight



Stipe
Miocic
vs
Francis
Ngannou
"The Predator"

UNITED STATES
Country
CAMEROON

17-2-0
Record
11-1-0

76%
KO/TKO
64%

6%
SUB
36%

18%
DEC
0%

76 in
Height
76 in

240 lbs
Weight
250 lbs

80 in
Reach
83 in

39 in
Leg Reach
44 in

[GoBlue77]

By that logic didn't Ngannou only beat 2 WASHED UP fighters?

my point is, Stipe is being overrated imo.

[JIBBBY]

Keep in mind Mgannou is gonna be the bigger man by probably 15 pounds or so.. Bigger, stronger, hits harder...

Stipe's best chance is to clinch and wrestle and try and wear down the bigger man.. Easier said then done though.

[Shagdogy]

my point is, Stipe is being overrated imo.

How is a champion with two defenses on a streak of 5 straight KO wins overrated when he opened as the underdog and has stayed there? Not possible. If anything he is being overlooked.

[Hugo de Naranja]

my point is, Stipe is being overrated imo.

How much you got on Ngannou?

[Hugo de Naranja]

Keep in mind Mgannou is gonna be the bigger man by probably 15 pounds or so.. Bigger, stronger, hits harder...

Stipe's best chance is to clinch and wrestle and try and wear down the bigger man.. Easier said then done though.

I think Miocic could outstrike him too, especially in the later rounds. He just has to avoid Ngannou's power early.