UFC 220: Miocic Vs. Ngannou | 20.01.2018 (Boston, Massachusetts)

**dvb02** · 01-20-18, 08:28 PM

who you'll have in the next one

FLYWEIGHT BOUT+115 Ortiz vs Pantoja -135

**Hugo de Naranja** · 01-20-18, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by dvb02

who you'll have in the next one

FLYWEIGHT BOUT+115 Ortiz vs Pantoja -135

I've got Pantoja, hopefully by Submission.

**TPowell** · 01-20-18, 08:30 PM

Leaned Pantoja but passed

**dvb02** · 01-20-18, 08:30 PM

thanks Hugo!

**GoBlue77** · 01-20-18, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by TPowell

Leaned Pantoja but passed

same

**Hugo de Naranja** · 01-20-18, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by dvb02

thanks Hugo!

Sure man. Best of luck tonight.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 01-20-18, 08:32 PM

Wow Pantoja all the way to +money. That is surprising line movement.

**Shagdogy** · 01-20-18, 08:32 PM

Anyone else feel a real sense of relief when a fight comes up that you DON'T have a bet on? A nice little stress free scrap. My pick is Ortiz here but I have it capped as pretty much a dead even fight. I think controlling the clinch will be a huge factor.

**TPowell** · 01-20-18, 08:33 PM

I'll dance. Put about a unit on Pantoja at the +110

**Hugo de Naranja** · 01-20-18, 08:34 PM

John Lineker just retweeted me. #LifeGoals

**MMANick** · 01-20-18, 08:35 PM

Taking a shot on Pantoja @ +120.

**PhoKing** · 01-20-18, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by Shagdogy

He generally has very good fight IQ. This was uncharacteristic. Maybe it was lack of game planning for this specific opponent throughout this camp?

i agree with tpowell's analysis so i might have jumped to conclusion on barz's IQ. i didn't see round 1, but people were saying his wad was half empty after r1. smart that he would conserve energy for r3

**Shagdogy** · 01-20-18, 08:39 PM

Man, Ortiz really does get his back taken a lot.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 01-20-18, 08:41 PM

Pantoja had him in real danger there.

**Sanity Check** · 01-20-18, 08:42 PM

I think Pantoja is tired.

Ortiz isn't tired at all.

We'll see tho.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 01-20-18, 08:43 PM

Live Hedge:
Ortiz (+260) 1u

Should still be a 10-9 Pantoja for R1 but I don't like the way that Ortiz finished that round. He may have stolen back some of the momentum at the end of R1.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 01-20-18, 08:48 PM

19-19 through 2

**dvb02** · 01-20-18, 08:48 PM

Pantoja is gassed

**Shagdogy** · 01-20-18, 08:49 PM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

19-19 through 2

New unified rules tonight or no? If they are, then that first round was prob 10-8 on some cards.

**PhoKing** · 01-20-18, 08:49 PM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

Live Hedge:
Ortiz (+260) 1u

Should still be a 10-9 Pantoja for R1 but I don't like the way that Ortiz finished that round. He may have stolen back some of the momentum at the end of R1.

hell of a good bet. i don't usually live bet, but most of the live bet is usually solely based on how both fighters are breathing in between rounds lol

**Sanity Check** · 01-20-18, 08:49 PM

Originally posted by Sanity Check

I think Pantoja is tired.

Ortiz isn't tired at all.

We'll see tho.

Looks like I was right.

Pantoja is being more efficient and tactical but Ortiz seems to have more energy.

Wrestling/grappling with Henry Cejudo helping Pantoja big time here.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 01-20-18, 08:50 PM

Too bad Pantoja didn't get that early choke. Would have been a huge win for me.

**Shutup** · 01-20-18, 08:50 PM

Originally posted by Shagdogy

Boston has a track record. This is nothing new.

Go live in black neighborhood. They have a much worse track record for treating white people like sh!t

**Hugo de Naranja** · 01-20-18, 08:50 PM

Originally posted by Shagdogy

New unified rules tonight or no? If they are, then that first round was prob 10-8 on some cards.

I think old rules but not 100% sure.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 01-20-18, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by PhoKing

hell of a good bet. i don't usually live bet, but most of the live bet is usually solely based on how both fighters are breathing in between rounds lol

Honestly that's not a bad strategy.

**MMANick** · 01-20-18, 08:52 PM

Too bad we couldn't bet on Ortiz getting his back taken in fights. It really does seem like it's every fight lol

**Sanity Check** · 01-20-18, 08:52 PM

I hope Pantoja doesn't win.

Hate to see guys do nothing and win off holding positions.

**MMANick** · 01-20-18, 08:54 PM

I'll go Pantoja 29-28.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 01-20-18, 08:54 PM

Close fight. I've got it 29-28 Pantoja but 29-28 Ortiz is fine too.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 01-20-18, 08:55 PM

Originally posted by MMANick

Too bad we couldn't bet on Ortiz getting his back taken in fights. It really does seem like it's every fight lol

(-1000) every fight lol.

**Shagdogy** · 01-20-18, 08:55 PM

Ortiz just shoots himself in the foot. Outside of two dumb, rushed decisions that led to getting his back taken, he won this fight.

**MMANick** · 01-20-18, 08:56 PM

In judging fights, I'll take 4 minutes of control over 45 seconds of grazing punches. We're probably looking at a Split DEC.

**MMANick** · 01-20-18, 08:57 PM

Not a robbery, but not the right call either.

**Shagdogy** · 01-20-18, 08:57 PM

All three judges? Hmmmm.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 01-20-18, 08:57 PM

I'm kinda surprised that was a UD for Ortiz.