UFC 175: Weidman vs. Machida (July 05, 2014)

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  • marzwoody
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    #211
    You know how dana says that fighters have a small amount of time to make money? its the same for the ring girlz
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    • JIBBBY
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      • 12-10-09
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      #212
      Checked the link just to ad more streams and got meat..

      SOB!!! Rocky that's not cool!!!! That's even worse then being Rick Rolled...
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      • JIBBBY
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        • 12-10-09
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        #213
        Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
        really looking forward to this one

        Damn, they both look dehydrated and drawn.. Especially Machida... 185 ain't easy to cut when your 36.. Forgot to factor that in with him coming down in weight... Hope it doesn't bite us in the arse Machida bettors...
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        • Das Jax
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          • 09-23-11
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          #214
          It's like their nipples are looking in a mirror...
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          • Mercersux
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            #215
            Anyone think the Weidman line might go any lower than where its currently standing ? (-178) Got burned jumping on the Doane line a bit early so trying to get Weidman at the best price i can.
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            • Beelzebubzy
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              • 06-06-11
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              #216
              Rousey vs Zingano at UFC 176 being discussed
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              • MD
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                • 01-31-12
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                #217
                Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                Rousey vs Zingano at UFC 176 being discussed
                Rousey is unreal if she takes this fight. What a savage.
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                • MD
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                  #218
                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                  Machida wasn't motivated for that fight.. LOL....

                  - Only legit thing I can say in response is - Phil is a better MMA wrestler and bit more athletic then Weidman and that fight was at 205 and not 185.. This fight is for the title too.. Gotcha pal.
                  Phil is a mediocre MMA wrestler, and Weidman is top-tier. You should take up a martial art or something, it would help you understand what you're watching.
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                  • Beelzebubzy
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                    • 06-06-11
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                    #219
                    Davis wrestling is OK
                    He shoots from like a mile away with no setups

                    Munoz is the worst mma wrestler I've even seen
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                    • MD
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                      • 01-31-12
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                      #220
                      Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                      Davis wrestling is OK
                      He shoots from like a mile away with no setups

                      Munoz is the worst mma wrestler I've even seen
                      In terms of high-level guys whose base is wrestling, Diego is probably worse than Munoz. He used to be really good, too, which is a shame.
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                      • Kermit
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                        • 09-27-10
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                        #221
                        Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                        Rousey vs Zingano at UFC 176 being discussed
                        Zingano said she is still a few months away from returning.
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                        • marzwoody
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                          #222
                          Originally posted by MD
                          Phil is a mediocre MMA wrestler, and Weidman is top-tier. You should take up a martial art or something, it would help you understand what you're watching.
                          Which martial art do you take? tai chi?
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                          • Das Jax
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                            • 09-23-11
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                            #223
                            Originally posted by Mercersux
                            Anyone think the Weidman line might go any lower than where its currently standing ? (-178) Got burned jumping on the Doane line a bit early so trying to get Weidman at the best price i can.
                            Frankly, it's a miracle that it's as low as it is. I would be quite surprised if it fell even further between now and tomorrow night.
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                            • Mercersux
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                              #224
                              Originally posted by Das Jax
                              Frankly, it's a miracle that it's as low as it is. I would be quite surprised if it fell even further between now and tomorrow night.
                              Yeah i just pounded it now @ -178. Sort of baffling that there are people on here who are backing Machida. This match seems pretty cut and dry frankly.
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                              • MD
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                                • 01-31-12
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                                #225
                                Originally posted by Mercersux
                                Yeah i just pounded it now @ -178. Sort of baffling that there are people on here who are backing Machida. This match seems pretty cut and dry frankly.
                                I'd say that about 80% of the sharps that I respect are on Machida, and some of the best mushes around are on Weidman. Bad omens a-brewin'.
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                                • marzwoody
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                                  #226
                                  Originally posted by MD
                                  I'd say that about 80% of the sharps that I respect are on Machida, and some of the best mushes around are on Weidman. Bad omens a-brewin'.
                                  How many "sharps" were on moussasi when he lost? you just type a load of shit. now why dont you pull up my picture again for the thousand time because you lack the intellect or social skillz for a discussion.
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                                  • marzwoody
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                                    #227
                                    Who is on machida you? literally everyone ive seen on here is on weidman. do you just like writing dumb shit on here for a reaction?
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                                    • Das Jax
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                                      • 09-23-11
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                                      #228
                                      Originally posted by MD
                                      I'd say that about 80% of the sharps that I respect are on Machida, and some of the best mushes around are on Weidman. Bad omens a-brewin'.
                                      I've seen Nunya and Jibbby on Machida... but that's about it. It'll be a good fight, but I'm really not worried at all. I honestly have no idea why this line is so close to even and can only speculate that there's an army of spiteful Silva backers out there who's passionate hatred for Weidman is interfering with their judgement. Simply put, this fight is a valuable opportunity to make some decent money.
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                                      • Beelzebubzy
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                                        • 06-06-11
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                                        #229
                                        Originally posted by Kermit
                                        Zingano said she is still a few months away from returning.
                                        Money talks.
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                                        • Beelzebubzy
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                                          • 06-06-11
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                                          #230
                                          Originally posted by MD
                                          I'd say that about 80% of the sharps that I respect are on Machida, and some of the best mushes around are on Weidman. Bad omens a-brewin'.
                                          Yep I'm on weidman and so is big day
                                          If sac is on Weidman just go all in on machida
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                                          • Das Jax
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                                            • 09-23-11
                                            • 904

                                            #231
                                            In other news, has anyone dug up any appealing props?

                                            Myself, I really like a lot of the fights to start Rnd 2. Specifically, Faber/Caceres at -145, Struve/Mitrione at -110, and especially Rousey/Davis at -115. Rousey is a beast, but I think her reign of first round armbars has come to an end and she doesn't have the power to knock out Davis (especially in the 1st round). Similarly, I don't think Davis is fast enough to get the job done standing, but what she does have is durability and an excellent ground game. She's never been subbed (she's a BJJ blackbelt after all) and none of her five losses have come prior to the 3rd round. Long story short, I don't think this fight ends early. Probably at least three rounds one way or the other. I still give it to Rousey, but it's a lot closer fight than most people think and I do have a small play on Davis at 10:1 simply because that line has a lot of value. Regardless, I think the 2nd Rnd prop is a very safe bet that represents an excellent opportunity to make some cash.

                                            I feel similarly about the other two fights, but to a lesser degree. Faber's deservedly the favorite (though, again, I've got a small value play on Bruce Leeroy), but I don't think this is going to end in the first round. Struve/Mitrione is a little shakier, simply because Mitrione is a threat standing, but I think they'll take some time to feel each other out and if Struve is smart he'll eventually take it to the ground and will likely eat up a decent amount of time looking for a sub. I think he will in fact catch it (probably winning via triangle in the 2nd or 3rd round), but the smartest play value-wise is simply starts 2nd round at -110.

                                            Edit: Instead of betting starts Rnd 2 in the Faber/Caceres fight at -145, everyone should be betting Not Faber Rnd 1 at -145. Same bet, but even better.

                                            Edit 2: Same thing for the Rousey/Davis fight. Instead of betting starts Rnd 2 at -115, bet Not Rousey Rnd 1 at -120.
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                                            • Vaughany
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                                              • 03-07-10
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                                              #232
                                              Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                              Checked the link just to ad more streams and got meat..

                                              SOB!!! Rocky that's not cool!!!! That's even worse then being Rick Rolled...
                                              You actually clicked meatspin.com thinking it was a stream site?!

                                              Had to be you jibbeh!
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                                              • Vaughany
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                                                • 03-07-10
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                                                #233
                                                Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                Haha touche!


                                                i dont think davis is necessary the better mma wrestler than weidman tho as the Rumble fight demonstrated.
                                                And im afraid Id be rather surprised and disheartened if Md doesnt flame on you for saying tht!
                                                .......


                                                Originally posted by MD
                                                Phil is a mediocre MMA wrestler, and Weidman is top-tier. You should take up a martial art or something, it would help you understand what you're watching.
                                                Haha glad u didnt fail to dissapoint
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                                                • wagerjunkie
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                                                  #234
                                                  u guys see the dude that was trolling Luca hard as hell on twitter? LOL
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                                                  • getlucky2win
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                                                    #235
                                                    jibbeehh is the best troll ever. constantly gets md and others to take the bait. im sure he trains ufc
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                                                    • mmaed
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                                                      • 11-25-11
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                                                      #236
                                                      Its true that Munoz and Phil Davis aren't nearly as good of MMA wrestlers as Weidman. What is significant is that Machida has been able to stymie the wrestling of pretty much every wrestler he has faced, many of which were at 205 pounds. Each wrestler he faced presented different challenges and had different overall MMA skillsets and he still beat them(some not officially). After his knockout loss to shogun he faced seven wrestlers in a row and faired well against all but one, that being the champ Jon Jones. Most people gave him the first round in that fight as well. Weidman is an awesome fighter but I personally have to give the advantage to Machida. Of all the fighters at 185 Weidman could possibly face, Machida is one of the toughest matchups for him. I am disappointed his line dropped from +250. I would have loved to get that.
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                                                      • Beelzebubzy
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                                                        • 06-06-11
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                                                        #237
                                                        Is pun on machida?
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                                                        • Ron_Paul_2012
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                                                          #238
                                                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                          Checked the link just to ad more streams and got meat..

                                                          SOB!!! Rocky that's not cool!!!! That's even worse then being Rick Rolled...
                                                          The real question is how did rocky 16 discover this website. He must of got his sh!t pushed in while he did a stint in the pokey & learned to like it.
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                                                          • PunisherIND
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                                                            #239
                                                            Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                                            Is pun on machida?
                                                            nope
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                                                            • Mercersux
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                                                              #240
                                                              I could see Machida giving Weidman looks which may take him a round to adjust to, but i can't really see him losing this. We all need to take advantage of Weidman money now before he gets into Jones territory. Perception on him is very skewed at the moment due to the Silva fights. Anybody who watched the weigh ins can see how much heat the guy is getting. For what? two victories over Silva which were apparently a "fluke". Far from it.
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                                                              • PunisherIND
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                                                                • 02-24-11
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                                                                #241
                                                                Originally posted by Mercersux
                                                                I could see Machida giving Weidman looks which may take him a round to adjust to, but i can't really see him losing this. We all need to take advantage of Weidman money now before he gets into Jones territory. Perception on him is very skewed at the moment due to the Silva fights. Anybody who watched the weigh ins can see how much heat the guy is getting. For what? two victories over Silva which were apparently a "fluke". Far from it.
                                                                fwiw, weidman brought in stephen thompson for this camp. should be helpful with adjusting to machida's style.
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                                                                • Vaughany
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                                                                  #242
                                                                  Originally posted by wagerjunkie
                                                                  u guys see the dude that was trolling Luca hard as hell on twitter? LOL
                                                                  Yee i posted it on nunyas thread
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                                                                  • Ron_Paul_2012
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                                                                    #243
                                                                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                    Yee i posted it on nunyas thread
                                                                    Was it Sider?
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                                                                    • Grabaka
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                                                                      • 02-19-11
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                                                                      #244
                                                                      My good luck and powers counters both Sackos and Bidgay....no need to worry fellaz
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                                                                      • Grabaka
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                                                                        #245
                                                                        Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                        Yee i posted it on nunyas thread
                                                                        oh my....i have to check it out hehe
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