UFC Fight Night: Brown vs. Silva (May 10, 2014)

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  • JIBBBY
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 12-10-09
    • 83686

    #71
    Originally posted by MD
    No. No it isn't. Watch some tape.
    I've seen them both fight for years, and what I remember most is that Ed gets pissed off and turns red and then brings it.. Crazy ginger rage!!! Lol..

    Anyways, Ed is not easily defeated on his feet is my thinking. I just think ED brings a little bit more standing. Natal is no joke though, coming off an embarrassing loss as well.... I do think this is a tough fight to pick or bet on period.. Ed also loves to give up his back and then let his opponent sink in the rear naked choke when getting rocked....

    Who frigg'n knows in this one?????.....Flip a coin and like Ron Paul said there are certainly better fights to bet on for sure... I just think this will be a good fight to watch and it probably should be on the main card...
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    • Ron_Paul_2012
      SBR MVP
      • 01-31-13
      • 3953

      #72
      I think the Eduardo vs Wineland fight will be interesting. Eduardo is the Muay Thai coach for Jose Aldo & Renan Barao. Needless to say his stand up is pretty good. If Wineland decides not to use his wrestling then there is potential for an upset.
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      • Beelzebubzy
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 06-06-11
        • 6995

        #73
        Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
        I think the Eduardo vs Wineland fight will be interesting. Eduardo is the Muay Thai coach for Jose Aldo & Renan Barao. Needless to say his stand up is pretty good. If Wineland decides not to use his wrestling then there is potential for an upset.
        This guy is
        a) injury prone
        b) had trouble with Curran
        c) just because your a coach does not mean you are a good player
        d) long layoff
        e) 35 years old in Brazil is like the equivalent of being 45 American
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        • NunyaBidness
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 07-26-09
          • 9345

          #74
          Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
          e) 35 years old in Brazil is like the equivalent of being 45 American
          I dunno why, but this made me snort tea out my nose.
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          • JIBBBY
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 12-10-09
            • 83686

            #75
            Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
            I think the Eduardo vs Wineland fight will be interesting. Eduardo is the Muay Thai coach for Jose Aldo & Renan Barao. Needless to say his stand up is pretty good. If Wineland decides not to use his wrestling then there is potential for an upset.
            Eddie Wineland is a 4-1 favorite..(is tempting to bet the other way) but the dude is tough as nails and sooo hard to beat.. Eduardo isn't a bad fighter either but I think he's gonna be out classed in this fight.. Eddie hits harder, has a wrestling advantage and is simply more well rounded.. Lastly he has fought stiffer competition of late..

            Eddie's only recent loss is too Barao and that's the man right there.. Eduardo has fought bums and barely squeaked out a decision victory over Jeff Curan in his last fight.. (His claim to fame so far)

            Eddie Knocks out people, Eduardo tries to out point people.. I don't think this fight will be close.. Eddie probably takes him out early on...

            I was thinking of taking Eddie Wineland and Nik Lents in a parlay bet myself..
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            • Pabst
              SBR High Roller
              • 05-06-13
              • 199

              #76
              I really like the O2 1/2 on Herman vs. Natal at -180, what do you guys think?
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              • Wilbo86
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 01-22-14
                • 753

                #77
                I'd take the under1.5 for potts/Palelei instead, roughly same line, much clearer path to it cashing.
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                • Bumdeal
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-17-13
                  • 3954

                  #78
                  Originally posted by Pabst
                  I really like the O2 1/2 on Herman vs. Natal at -180, what do you guys think?
                  I'd be worried about Herman getting subbed real quick or Natal getting slept real quick.
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                  • JIBBBY
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 12-10-09
                    • 83686

                    #79
                    I just found this link on this website... Man I love this forum!!!!

                    I certainly need to open up a few more accounts.. Maybe all 8 to get the best value on one bet... Hmmm? Got 2 accounts going now. Thinking that's not enough..

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                    • FightFightFight
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 03-21-11
                      • 594

                      #80
                      UFC/MMA odds comparison service. Compare the latest UFC/MMA fight odds and betting lines from the top online sportsbooks
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                      • JIBBBY
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 12-10-09
                        • 83686

                        #81
                        Originally posted by FightFightFight
                        I love the team play and shared information.. Thanks man!!!
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                        • Ron_Paul_2012
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-31-13
                          • 3953

                          #82
                          Plays for this Saturday. Good Luck All!

                          8u Cabral & 1u Under 2.5
                          5u Wineland
                          5u Smolka & 4u Over 2.5
                          5u Means
                          3.4u Lentz Over 2.5
                          3.4u Horiguchi
                          3u Brown
                          3u Larkin & 3u Over 2.5

                          2.5u Koch
                          2u Palelei
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                          • JIBBBY
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 12-10-09
                            • 83686

                            #83
                            Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
                            Plays for this Saturday. Good Luck All!

                            8u Cabral & 1u Under 2.5
                            5u Wineland
                            5u Smolka & 4u Over 2.5
                            5u Means
                            3.4u Lentz Over 2.5
                            3.4u Horiguchi
                            3u Brown
                            3u Larkin & 3u Over 2.5

                            2.5u Koch
                            2u Palelei

                            Good luck Ronny..

                            I don't bet the over or under rounds as you just never know when a fighter is going to fight to survive and go for the decision on points or blitz and go for bust..

                            However, a banger with suspect cardio is a good play for the under in rounds when I begin to think about it.. A dancer with good cardio and chin is something to think about on the flip side..

                            I typically just play winner or loser... I need to change it up like some of you guys do..
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                            • Wilbo86
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 01-22-14
                              • 753

                              #84
                              Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
                              Plays for this Saturday. Good Luck All!

                              8u Cabral & 1u Under 2.5
                              5u Wineland
                              5u Smolka & 4u Over 2.5
                              5u Means
                              3.4u Lentz Over 2.5
                              3.4u Horiguchi
                              3u Brown
                              3u Larkin & 3u Over 2.5

                              2.5u Koch
                              2u Palelei
                              I don´t see any double-digit unit plays here, please reconsider your bet sizes in a responsible manner and repost.
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                              • Wilbo86
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 01-22-14
                                • 753

                                #85
                                Also, I could be mistaken but are Brown and the under the only non-chalk plays?

                                Sorry, I've had a few beers, probably should stop antagonising....
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                                • Skel
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 03-04-14
                                  • 1284

                                  #86
                                  Natal -120 2.4 units to win 2 units
                                  Brown in R1 +650 .5 units to win 3.25 units
                                  Smolka -130 2.6 units to win 2 units
                                  Brown ITD +275 1.5 units to win 4.125 units
                                  Brown ITD +220 1 unit to win 2.4 units
                                  Means -210 5.25 units to win 2.5 units
                                  Brown +180 1.5 units to win 2.7 units
                                  Brown/Silva U1.5 -130 2.08 units to win 1.6 units
                                  Philippou/Larkin O2.5 + Henderson/Cormier O2.5 2.5 units to win 3.25 units
                                  Philippou/Larkin O2.5 + Dos Santos 4 units to win 1.75 units
                                  Tumenov + Natal/Herman O2.5 2 units to win 2.7 units
                                  Gamburyan/Lentz O2.5 + Brown/Silva doesn't GTD + Not Cariaso ITD 2.5 units to win 2.15 units
                                  Wineland + Lentz + Weichel/Green O2.5 2.5 units to win 3.4 units
                                  Koch + Natal + Wineland + Tumenov + Lentz + Smolka/Cariaso O2.5 .5 units to win 3.5 units
                                  Salas + Tumenov + Weichel/Green O2.5 + Not Cariaso ITD + Not Magny ITD 1.5 units to win 4.7 units
                                  Weichel/Green O2.5 + Brown/Silva doesn't GTD + Not Magny ITD 2.5 units to win 2.45 units
                                  Koch + Means + Salas + Lentz + Natal + Wineland + Natal + Weichel/Green O2.5 .5 units to win 7 units

                                  I don't feel super-confident about these; not really feeling on this week. I also probably won't be able to watch the card live as I'll be traveling this weekend.
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                                  • Pabst
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 05-06-13
                                    • 199

                                    #87
                                    I see this event as a very tricky event, so I'm betting small.

                                    3.75units on Natal / Herman O2 1/2 at -180.
                                    2units on Horiguchi -170
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                                    • JIBBBY
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 12-10-09
                                      • 83686

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by Pabst
                                      2units on Horiguchi -170
                                      Becareful on this bet Pabst.. I like the underdog actually in this one.. Rule of thumb always bet against the Asian fighters in the UFC unless they have a massive Olympic wrestling or Judo back ground!!!

                                      Horiguchi is a punching threat but has he really fought anyone great? Hmmm? I'm giving the #15 ranked Montague 12-3 a legit shot at winning this bout.. He's got more ways to win then Horiguchi does in my mind.. Value is off as well in my mind at -170 ish... It's more like a pick em I think...

                                      Montague got lit up against John Dodson in a 1st round KO loss in his last fight.. Understandable.. Not sure he's gonna let that happen again.. I see a good rebound fight coming up... His UFC career may be on the line also in this bout..

                                      Horiguchi's last big fight win in the UFC was against this guy.. Come on. Whooopie.....http://www.ufc.com/fighter/Dustin-Pague I thinks it's good value with the underdog in this fight.. I'm on it for a few pennies myself..

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                                      • Ron_Paul_2012
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-31-13
                                        • 3953

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                        I just found this link on this website... Man I love this forum!!!!

                                        I certainly need to open up a few more accounts.. Maybe all 8 to get the best value on one bet... Hmmm? Got 2 accounts going now. Thinking that's not enough..

                                        http://www.sportsbookreview.com/ufc-...ht-40-betting/
                                        You live in Cali if I remember correctly. So the best 3 for anyone living in the states would be 5dimes, Bookmaker & Bovada. I use all three to line shop. 5dimes opening lines are the best but if you miss the openers then Bookmaker usually has good lines as well. Bovada is always the last resort. However, once in a while you can find a line that beats both 5dimes as well as Bookmaker. All 3 are reliable when it comes to payouts. I consistently withdraw from all 3 & have never had a problem with any of them so far.
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                                        • Lick496
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 12-07-11
                                          • 590

                                          #90
                                          1u Cariaso
                                          1u Brown
                                          1u Costa
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                                          • PunisherIND
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 02-24-11
                                            • 4983

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
                                            You live in Cali if I remember correctly. So the best 3 for anyone living in the states would be 5dimes, Bookmaker & Bovada. I use all three to line shop. 5dimes opening lines are the best but if you miss the openers then Bookmaker usually has good lines as well. Bovada is always the last resort. However, once in a while you can find a line that beats both 5dimes as well as Bookmaker. All 3 are reliable when it comes to payouts. I consistently withdraw from all 3 & have never had a problem with any of them so far.
                                            the problem with bovada is they will limit you to peanuts if you are consistently beating them.
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                                            • BIGDAY
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 02-17-10
                                              • 48245

                                              #92
                                              I like Brown's chances. Silva can be pressured.
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                                              • Pabst
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 05-06-13
                                                • 199

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                Becareful on this bet Pabst.. I like the underdog actually in this one.. Rule of thumb always bet against the Asian fighters in the UFC unless they have a massive Olympic wrestling or Judo back ground!!!

                                                Horiguchi is a punching threat but has he really fought anyone great? Hmmm? I'm giving the #15 ranked Montague 12-3 a legit shot at winning this bout.. He's got more ways to win then Horiguchi does in my mind.. Value is off as well in my mind at -170 ish... It's more like a pick em I think...

                                                Montague got lit up against John Dodson in a 1st round KO loss in his last fight.. Understandable.. Not sure he's gonna let that happen again.. I see a good rebound fight coming up... His UFC career may be on the line also in this bout..

                                                Horiguchi's last big fight win in the UFC was against this guy.. Come on. Whooopie.....http://www.ufc.com/fighter/Dustin-Pague I thinks it's good value with the underdog in this fight.. I'm on it for a few pennies myself..

                                                http://www.ufc.com/event/ufn-cincinn...rrell-Montague
                                                Go watch the Montague / McCall fight. McCall said a couple of times Darrell doesn't hit that hard and I do question his cardio where Horigoshi doesn't have cardio problem from what we've seen.
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                                                • fitguy67
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 03-13-11
                                                  • 5082

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by Unwritten Law
                                                  Liking Matt Brown in this one.
                                                  Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                  Erik Silva is just a massively hyped "prospect" (despite being almost 30!) so people like to blindly bet him
                                                  Originally posted by BIGDAY
                                                  I like Brown's chances. Silva can be pressured.
                                                  don't know what's keeping Brown's price at such bargain levels...but i like it...bought some at +195 four days ago at 5d...just looked at it again a few minutes ago and see that it's firmed up only 5 ticks from then to +190...and I was still able to add a unit at matchbook at +194.1 (the posted +198 adjusted for commission)...

                                                  if you'll allow me an excursion down that dark alley of "MMA math"...if I saw Brown, StunGun and Fitch comin' at me with bad intentions...it's Brown i'd most like to avoid...i already made some dog-flyer coin fading the VERY flashy but VERY over-hyped Silva vs the other two, why not give the MMA slot-machine another crank with not-so-arguably the tougest hombre he's ever been drawn up against
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                                                  • fitguy67
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 03-13-11
                                                    • 5082

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                                    This guy is
                                                    a) injury prone
                                                    b) had trouble with Curran
                                                    c) just because your a coach does not mean you are a good player
                                                    d) long layoff
                                                    e) 35 years old in Brazil is like the equivalent of being 45 American

                                                    Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                    I dunno why, but this made me snort tea out my nose.
                                                    it's like Detroiters driving across the Ambassador Bridge into Windsor for an exchange-rate enhanced weekend's worth of clubbing/skirt-chasing...getting jazzed--as they cross the line officially separating the two nations--that their 6-inch hog suddenly becomes "9-inches Canadian"
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                                                    • PaperTrail07
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 08-29-08
                                                      • 20423

                                                      #96
                                                      Fighting - 24401 M. Brown +175 for Game
                                                      Fighting - 24406 L. Larkin -240 for Game
                                                      Fighting - 24409 D. Cruickshank +350 for Game
                                                      Fighting - 24418 S. Palelei -310 for Game
                                                      Fighting - 24426 R. Natal -150 for Game
                                                      Fighting - 24434 Y. Cabral -470 for Game
                                                      Fighting - 24442 N. Lentz -410 for Game
                                                      Fighting - 24429 D. Montague +165
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                                                      • PaperTrail07
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 08-29-08
                                                        • 20423

                                                        #97
                                                        Magny at +215 has been added
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                                                        • PunisherIND
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 02-24-11
                                                          • 4983

                                                          #98
                                                          Who will be the parlay buster tonight? Manville?
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                                                          • marzwoody
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-03-14
                                                            • 3902

                                                            #99
                                                            Ladies and gentlemen. who do you have tonight?
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                                                            • NunyaBidness
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 07-26-09
                                                              • 9345

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by PunisherIND
                                                              Who will be the parlay buster tonight? Manville?
                                                              Ben Wall via being a manimal.
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                                                              • Vaughany
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 03-07-10
                                                                • 45563

                                                                #101
                                                                Haha wouldnt be surprised.
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                                                                • NunyaBidness
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 07-26-09
                                                                  • 9345

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Seriously though, Gamburyan +460? Is he dead? Are his ring guys going to swing his body around the ring like Weekend at Bernies?
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                                                                  • Vaughany
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 03-07-10
                                                                    • 45563

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Ha its because parisyan droppped the bomb telling everbody about gamburyan and rousey's tampons
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                                                                    • Bumdeal
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 12-17-13
                                                                      • 3954

                                                                      #104
                                                                      so far:


                                                                      risk 1u to win 2.32u
                                                                      Pending 4 Team Parlay
                                                                      Pending 5/10/14 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1102 Lorenz Larkin -240* vs Costas Philippou
                                                                      Pending 5/10/14 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1302 Tim Means -255* vs Neil Magny
                                                                      Pending 5/10/14 7:30pm UFC Fighting 2002 Nik Lentz -420* vs Manvel Gamburyan
                                                                      Pending 5/10/14 7:00pm UFC Fighting 2102 Justin Salas -275* vs Ben Wall


                                                                      risk .5u to win 1.32u
                                                                      Pending 5/10/14 6:30pm UFC Fighting 2202 Anthony Lapsley +220* vs Albert Tumenov




                                                                      have a few open parlays with larkin i'm deciding how to fill
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                                                                      • NunyaBidness
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 07-26-09
                                                                        • 9345

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Good luck Bum, we're on a lot of the same plays.

                                                                        Love the avatar btw, funniest show on TV!
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