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    danshan11
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    Fairlay Idea

    I can set up a market maker for major sports like NFL, MLB, NBA, WNBA, NHL, EPL, UEFACL and offer penny better than pinnacle odds. What I would do is create an organizer page that would be as easy to use as any sportsbook.

    so you go to the organizer page example
    Top navigation
    you click NFL
    shows moneylines, totals, spread,
    you click spread
    it shows
    Eagles +7
    Bears -9
    Broncos +10
    you click Broncos and it takes you to the live Fairlay link with those odds.

    I already built the algo so it could easily be used in this method for everyone

    benefits
    1 US players NO problem
    2 Better than pinnacle prices by a penny
    3 Easy to navigate no need to search through tons of garbage pages on fairlay
    4 No limits or banning, I mean would be limits but only based on amount of action on fairlay and I could pump some cash in to make sure they are high enough
    5 best of pricing the algo finds the lowest price on that game even if its below pinny

    downfalls
    must use BTC

    if anyone has any suggestions or ideas on this let me know, I could implement as soon as a few days but will only do it if I can get adequate volume to afford to run the scrape constantly, manage it and fund the bets.

    Please let me know if any interest or issues I left out. Any downfalls or benefits I am missing.

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    support troll box message to ognjen-support - tell him you posted on SBR and would like his help promotion wise....he may run it as the scroll on top of site who knows Also is benefits don't forget they are fastest payout out of any book in the offshore WORLD

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    yes forgot that they pay out the fastest ever, good point, I dont want to promote on their site, the whole point of my idea is to have the api filter out all that garbage on fairlay and just get to the good lines and not just the wanted markets but the best price on those wanted markets.

    MY API goes through searches for 5 or 6 matching criteria to get the spelling errors, the wrong rotation number games and compares them all and gives you the one with the best line available.

    On fairlay there might be 20-30 markets created for -6 Rams on Monday night football and most people follow that line if they are thinking of betting it but they dont follow all 30 threads on that same line and can miss value. LIke using the API I just picked up a dangler line for the Angels -114 and they are sitting now at -128 or so on the other 4 or 5 lines on fairlay. I got value on that bet because my API found that line and it would do that for all of us, but I would need the support and know people want it for me to go through the trouble of putting it up. Does it seem worthwhile to you? I will tell you now 99.99% of lines will be 1 cent better than pinny's current price so dont think of that as a driving feature but it will and does happen.

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    and when I say support I mean using it. I mean placing bets on fairlay with it. I would not receive any commissions or anything like that. although I would fund as much of it as I could.

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    I gave up on Fairlay in part because of its atrocious interface. If you could provide a clearer one, I'd take another look.

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    thanks, I think that is 99% of the world

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    I am really curious as to why this does not appeal to more people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by danshan11 View Post
    I am really curious as to why this does not appeal to more people?
    Fairlay and betfair family exchanges blow away traditonal books...Esp for USA peeps...the bad interface excuse is wrong as like many exchanges it’s just different and on Fairlay the search function makes things very easy...if it takes me n extra 30 seconds to get +102 instead of -108 so what....try posting your stuff on the fairly forum and maybe de it to a sbr sub forum if they allow

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    I cant get fairlay search to work consistently and that is a pain in the butt also is the stupid
    1000 options of over under you got to sort through to get the actual game overunder little quirks like that but for the price so worth it.

    I am getting games for at least a few pennies better than pinny and like you said instant withdrawals, people just dont like it cause of the for against format? I guess I really dont see the issue but shit it is so worth it.

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    Fairlay is hard to view/navigate. Even 5Dimes is better lol

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    I am really seeing very low volume and I cannot understand why, I am definitely missing something. I am going to try and see if I can generate some markets and see if it turns into anything. I will work on it this week and see what I can come up with, if I can get 2 or 3 btc volume per day,I think I could really make it worthwhile for me to do it.

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    volume was dirt low but returns were awesome on the volume I got. I also used fairlay for my normal bets and paid way less than I normally would. I am seeing a nice return on my games compared to prepay fairlay. I am not 1 centing it either, I am just watching markets I like and picking up good bets. I said I would update and this is it, anybody got any questions, lmk!

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    Quote Originally Posted by danshan11 View Post
    volume was dirt low but returns were awesome on the volume I got. I also used fairlay for my normal bets and paid way less than I normally would. I am seeing a nice return on my games compared to prepay fairlay. I am not 1 centing it either, I am just watching markets I like and picking up good bets. I said I would update and this is it, anybody got any questions, lmk!
    the lines are just the best got -102 when every other book was -108 or worse and a ML at +196 when +184 best elsewhere earlier coupled with the instant payouts it's a no brainier for USA peeps....It does operate more like a book then a exchange though on many markets but who cares

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    Yeah freaks me out that nobody uses it, funny why?
    you can risk 140 to win 100 at Betonline
    or risk 125 to win 100 at fairlay
    wtf whats the deal and it has every single market, i mean any normal shit I play is there and ready for betting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by danshan11 View Post
    Yeah freaks me out that nobody uses it, funny why?
    Crappy interface, takes me too long to navigate and bet. Yep, better lines. But right now, I've got more money than time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danshan11 View Post
    Yeah freaks me out that nobody uses it, funny why?
    you can risk 140 to win 100 at Betonline
    or risk 125 to win 100 at fairlay
    wtf whats the deal and it has every single market, i mean any normal shit I play is there and ready for betting!
    Because of unpredictable BTC price.
    I think real big bettors must constantly balancing BTC in case of big movements.

    Can you compare your price from fairlay vs matchbook with 0% or 0.5% classic commision?

    Matchbook have decent liquidity on MLB, NHL, NFL, european soccer matches.
    Last edited by euronet; 09-20-18 at 03:55 AM.

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    I did not look at matchbook, is it better? I like to deposit with btc, is btc an option at matchbook for funding?

    I would consider anywhere, any other suggestions I will gladly take if you want to share, thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by danshan11 View Post
    I did not look at matchbook, is it better? I like to deposit with btc, is btc an option at matchbook for funding?

    I would consider anywhere, any other suggestions I will gladly take if you want to share, thanks

    Through AC88 BTC to Euro....Matchbook is good but I prefer the bet fair family...The Instant withdraws at Fairlay can somewhat neutralize the risk. I transfer in and out all the time but with BTC pretty stable price for recreational guys not much risk

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