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  • No coincidences
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-18-10
    • 76300

    #2591
    I swear God -- sometimes I think you log in here just for the sake of picking a fight.
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    • God1
      Restricted User
      • 07-18-11
      • 848

      #2592
      Originally posted by Redscot
      Oh G1! Hilarious?! As the ESPN football analysts say "come'on man!" Find me the 5 of the Managers in this league that would pick Shields over Verlander in game 7 .
      Managers also think things like RBIs and how many wins a pitcher has are indicative of skill. Shields pitches against SIGNIFICANTLY better competition and sports a SIERA only .25 behind. Shields is also nearly impossible to steal against, I think they've got 1 off him all year. Shields regularly pitches against the 2 best offenses in baseball plus toronto and baltimore. Verlander's division opponents consisnt of cleveland, wsox, royals, twins.

      Price has a better argument because he has been through the fire. Don't discredit yourself bro. Neither choice would be in the "hilarious" category, if anything your choice of Shields over Verlander would be hysterical.
      Price actually has a worse argument because you can steal off him. The stolen base is literally removed from the game when shields pitches. That takes away a huge reason that many hitters are considered productive. Most leadoff hitters in baseball turn into average joes against shields
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      • God1
        Restricted User
        • 07-18-11
        • 848

        #2593
        Originally posted by No coincidences
        I swear God -- sometimes I think you log in here just for the sake of picking a fight.
        You just really don't understand baseball
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        • hawley
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 05-10-10
          • 14270

          #2594
          God whats your record in baseball this season?

          Must be hitting a crazy % and be up huge units?
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          • No coincidences
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-18-10
            • 76300

            #2595
            Real slugfest going at Coors right now.
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            • God1
              Restricted User
              • 07-18-11
              • 848

              #2596
              Originally posted by hawley
              God whats your record in baseball this season?

              Must be hitting a crazy % and be up huge units?
              don't know what you define as crazy % but yes up quite a bit
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              • Redscot
                SBR MVP
                • 05-16-11
                • 2571

                #2597
                Originally posted by God1
                Managers also think things like RBIs and how many wins a pitcher has are indicative of skill. Shields pitches against SIGNIFICANTLY better competition and sports a SIERA only .25 behind. Shields is also nearly impossible to steal against, I think they've got 1 off him all year. Shields regularly pitches against the 2 best offenses in baseball plus toronto and baltimore. Verlander's division opponents consisnt of cleveland, wsox, royals, twins.



                Price actually has a worse argument because you can steal off him. The stolen base is literally removed from the game when shields pitches. That takes away a huge reason that many hitters are considered productive. Most leadoff hitters in baseball turn into average joes against shields
                Games are played on the field my man. I turn to you for betting angles, but when it comes to winning games, let's choose sides....I like my chances.

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                • No coincidences
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-18-10
                  • 76300

                  #2598
                  Originally posted by God1
                  You just really don't understand baseball
                  If saying Verlander and Kershaw are better than Strasberg means I "don't understand baseball," then I guess I don't.

                  I get the feeling you don't even watch games. Just study stats. Am I right? I asked if you'd seen these cats from SF and COL pitch and you basically laughed at me. How's that over coming?
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                  • God1
                    Restricted User
                    • 07-18-11
                    • 848

                    #2599
                    Verlander gets the chunk of his games against the bottom feeding offenses. Shields gets it against 2 of the best offenses in baseball in the past decade plus two other average-above avg offenses
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                    • No coincidences
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-18-10
                      • 76300

                      #2600
                      Originally posted by Redscot
                      Games are played on the field my man. I turn to you for betting angles, but when it comes to winning games, let's choose sides....I like my chances.

                      Well said.
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                      • God1
                        Restricted User
                        • 07-18-11
                        • 848

                        #2601
                        Originally posted by No coincidences
                        If saying Verlander and Kershaw are better than Strasberg means I "don't understand baseball," then I guess I don't.

                        I get the feeling you don't even watch games. Just study stats. Am I right? I asked if you'd seen these cats from SF and COL pitch and you basically laughed at me. How's that over coming?
                        Great, how's the under coming in the strasburg game? Give me a break you act like you're in 2nd grade
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                        • No coincidences
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-18-10
                          • 76300

                          #2602
                          Originally posted by God1
                          Verlander gets the chunk of his games against the bottom feeding offenses. Shields gets it against 2 of the best offenses in baseball in the past decade plus two other average-above avg offenses
                          The argument wasn't about Shields, who I agree is a Top-4 pitcher in baseball (Verlander, Kershaw, Shields, Jared Weaver). It's re: Strasberg.
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                          • No coincidences
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-18-10
                            • 76300

                            #2603
                            Originally posted by God1
                            Great, how's the under coming in the strasburg game? Give me a break you act like you're in 2nd grade
                            You acted like it was some red alert to take the over in SF/COL.
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                            • God1
                              Restricted User
                              • 07-18-11
                              • 848

                              #2604
                              75 innings, I know(yes i've seen research on this), is a significant sample size for a pitcher beginning his career. That's where the disagreement we have lies
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                              • Love The Action
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 11-08-10
                                • 10952

                                #2605
                                Originally posted by Love The Action
                                MLB 9/17/11

                                Play #1

                                Mets/Braves under (7.5)(-115) 1x (Locked)

                                Play #2

                                TB/Boston under (8.5)(-115) 1x (Locked)

                                Play #3

                                Yanks/Blue Jays under (9)(+100) 1x (Locked)

                                Play #4

                                Angels/Orioles under (8.5)(-105) 1x (Locked)

                                I missed out on the 9 and could have saved a few cents under 8.5, but I'm going to take a shot here. My model has it at 8.1, so we don't have a ton of value here, but it's going to take a score of 9 to beat us so I still like it. Britton is easily the Orioles best starter with a WAR of 2.5 and he has never faced anyone on the Angels before. Santana is coming off a rought start against the Yanks, but should be fresh after only throwing 99 pitches. The wind is blowing directly in at 10 mph and the ump has a high strike rate around 63.5%. I'm rolling with the under for 1x. Good luck.
                                Play #5

                                Pirates/Dodgers under (7)(-105) 1x (Locked)

                                Both team totals are juiced to the under and Pinny just went to -109 and plus money on the over despite over 70% on the over. McDonald has never faced this Dodgers lineup, can get some strikeouts and will be primed to pitch well against his old team. Lilly, on the other hand, has picked up over the last half of the season improving his FIP throughout that span. He has found success against these Pirates hitters in the past and I suspect he does well tonight. The wind is a non-factor and the ump Timmons is a slight under guy throughout his career. I'm rolling with the under for 1x. Good luck.
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                                • God1
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 07-18-11
                                  • 848

                                  #2606
                                  Originally posted by No coincidences
                                  You acted like it was some red alert to take the over in SF/COL.
                                  It sure was, i believe it was still a profitable bet regardless of the outcome. It would make no difference to me if it was 9-5 through 3 innings or 1-0. i'm done wasting my time here good night
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                                  • No coincidences
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-18-10
                                    • 76300

                                    #2607
                                    Originally posted by God1
                                    It sure was, i believe it was still a profitable bet regardless of the outcome. It would make no difference to me if it was 9-5 through 3 innings or 1-0. i'm done wasting my time here good night
                                    Like usual, God takes his ball and goes home because we're not worthy of his presence.

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                                    • Redscot
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 05-16-11
                                      • 2571

                                      #2608
                                      Originally posted by No coincidences
                                      I swear God -- sometimes I think you log in here just for the sake of picking a fight.
                                      Definitely comes across as such. In fairness, has been forthright and helpful to me whenever I have asked him for his opinion. (Not trying to ruin your rep G1 ) But honestly he has helped me win some money with certain suggestions.
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                                      • No coincidences
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-18-10
                                        • 76300

                                        #2609
                                        Originally posted by Redscot
                                        Definitely comes across as such. In fairness, has been forthright and helpful to me whenever I have asked him for his opinion. (Not trying to ruin your rep G1 ) But honestly he has helped me win some money with certain suggestions.
                                        His opinion isn't the problem. He knows his stuff. He blurs "opinion" with "fact" too much for my taste, though.
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                                        • Redscot
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 05-16-11
                                          • 2571

                                          #2610
                                          All I know is Mayweather KO, Ortiz KO I make big $ tonight. Mayweather decision I break even. Anything else, you may not see me for a while
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                                          • No coincidences
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-18-10
                                            • 76300

                                            #2611
                                            Originally posted by Redscot
                                            All I know is Mayweather KO, Ortiz KO I make big $ tonight. Mayweather decision I break even. Anything else, you may not see me for a while
                                            Good luck. You think Ortiz has a chance?
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                                            • Love The Action
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 11-08-10
                                              • 10952

                                              #2612
                                              Originally posted by Redscot
                                              All I know is Mayweather KO, Ortiz KO I make big $ tonight. Mayweather decision I break even. Anything else, you may not see me for a while
                                              No shit huh...I didn't bet but lean Ortiz. I'm rooting for a knockout either way. Didn't know you bet big money on boxing. Good luck
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                                              • Redscot
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 05-16-11
                                                • 2571

                                                #2613
                                                Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                His opinion isn't the problem. He knows his stuff. He blurs "opinion" with "fact" too much for my taste, though.
                                                Oh, I agree, he has certain personality traits (for lack of a better word). I value his antiseptic view of the game as mine is quite jaded. LTA to his credit seems to have found a good balance
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                                                • No coincidences
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 01-18-10
                                                  • 76300

                                                  #2614
                                                  Originally posted by Redscot
                                                  Oh, I agree, he has certain personality traits (for lack of a better word). I value his antiseptic view of the game as mine is quite jaded. LTA to his credit seems to have found a good balance
                                                  LTA's the man. One of the best and most level-headed cappers at SBR.
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                                                  • Redscot
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 05-16-11
                                                    • 2571

                                                    #2615
                                                    Originally posted by Love The Action
                                                    No shit huh...I didn't bet but lean Ortiz. I'm rooting for a knockout either way. Didn't know you bet big money on boxing. Good luck
                                                    My first sport brother, covered it for a while. I'm on it BIG, but mostly because I can exploit my local.
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                                                    • Redscot
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 05-16-11
                                                      • 2571

                                                      #2616
                                                      Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                      Good luck. You think Ortiz has a chance?
                                                      Punchers chance. Mayweather, albeit a dick is one of the games true masters. He was born in the ring, has all the angles, all the tricks. BUT, he is getting older and hasn't fought in over a year...Ortiz can't carry his jockstrap skill wise, but he is young/dumb and full of well...anyway...he has a chance of physically imposing himself. The way the ref handles Floyd's defense (he uses his shoulder and elbow to fend off) could be a factor. Most likely you will see Ortiz seemingly overwhelm Floyd for a few rounds mauling (although in replay you will see few flush shots really land) and then Floyd will start to pot shot him and break him down.

                                                      Most likely scenario, but the fight game is full of surprises


                                                      AS a side, Ortiz reportedly will have about a 15 lb weight advantage tonight.
                                                      Last edited by Redscot; 09-17-11, 09:16 PM.
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                                                      • No coincidences
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 01-18-10
                                                        • 76300

                                                        #2617
                                                        Already 3-0 Dodgers in the first.

                                                        I'm absolutely killing college football today -- why in the hell am I wasting my time on this shit?
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                                                        • No coincidences
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 01-18-10
                                                          • 76300

                                                          #2618
                                                          Nice hit on the SF over God. I'm sure not exactly like you expected it to happen, but it hit nonetheless.
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                                                          • Love The Action
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 11-08-10
                                                            • 10952

                                                            #2619
                                                            Originally posted by Redscot
                                                            Punchers chance. Mayweather, albeit a dick is one of the games true masters. He was born in the ring, has all the angles, all the tricks. BUT, he is getting older and hasn't fought in over a year...Ortiz can't carry his jockstrap skill wise, but he is young/dumb and full of well...anyway...he has a chance of physically imposing himself. The way the ref handles Floyd's defense (he uses his shoulder and elbow to fend off) could be a factor. Most likely you will see Ortiz seemingly overwhelm Floyd for a few rounds mauling (although in replay you will see few flush shots really land) and then Floyd will start to pot shot him and break him down.

                                                            Most likely scenario, but the fight game is full of surprises


                                                            AS a side, Ortiz reportedly will have about a 15 lb weight advantage tonight.
                                                            Please post all of your boxing plays as soon as you make them in one of my threads so I can tail. Thanks.
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                                                            • Redscot
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 05-16-11
                                                              • 2571

                                                              #2620
                                                              Originally posted by Love The Action
                                                              Please post all of your boxing plays as soon as you make them in one of my threads so I can tail. Thanks.
                                                              Weird ending. But hey, Count'De'Mone'! Will do brother!
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                                                              • God1
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 07-18-11
                                                                • 848

                                                                #2621
                                                                Im in a charitable mood heres what booked so far....rays -132 braves -175 orioles +184(huge) reds under 9 -110(huge) twins under 8.5 +104 rangers +105
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                                                                • No coincidences
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 01-18-10
                                                                  • 76300

                                                                  #2622
                                                                  Originally posted by God1
                                                                  Im in a charitable mood heres what booked so far....rays -132 braves -175 orioles +184(huge) reds under 9 -110(huge) twins under 8.5 +104 rangers +105
                                                                  Good luck. I'm done with baseball after tonight. Cashed the O's ML and got a miracle push on LTA's PIT/LAD under. I'll end on a positive note until the playoffs.
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                                                                  • Love The Action
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 11-08-10
                                                                    • 10952

                                                                    #2623
                                                                    Miracle push on the Dodgers under. Maybe some of the gambling gods are starting to pay us back for the 30x lost to bad beats over the last couple months.
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                                                                    • hawley
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 05-10-10
                                                                      • 14270

                                                                      #2624
                                                                      My local had under 8 for that Dodgers game so I got lucky but even then I would of been happy with a push considering the start to the game.
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                                                                      • Love The Action
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 11-08-10
                                                                        • 10952

                                                                        #2625
                                                                        Originally posted by Redscot
                                                                        Weird ending. But hey, Count'De'Mone'! Will do brother!

                                                                        Congrats on the big win
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