John Morrison 2011 MLB

[Wallco99]

Did you mean to post Detroit m/l twice? or is it -1.5 and ml?

Both M/L, it says it in the post.

[J.M. Disciple]

lets hope 6 labby lines does the trick for this wallco.....

[J.M. Disciple]

Both M/L, it says it in the post.

Just threw me off cause im use to it being ML and -1.5

are you posting it twice to win 2 units to make up for losses of previous series?

[J.M. Disciple]

never mind i see that its because they are underdogs now... Answered my own question.... i was assuming each team was a favorite..

thanks for your rapid answer though.

[G's pks]

Wallco MLB PLU$$$
2011 System to date: 76-6
System profit/loss: +2.62 units (finished series)
Since my first post: -17.64 units (61-6) (fin. series)
Current open series: 0

(6/2/11) Chicago Cubs (M/L) (D) - Loss
(6/2/11) Chicago Cubs (-1½) (D) – Loss

Cubs were off on 6/2...I think you meant Padres maybe for this "D" loss?

I know when anyone here suggests something you do not want to hear it...but one easy filter to help a little may be to filter out the bottom 5-10 home teams...seriously think about it...

You had "D" bets on the cubs who are ranked 28th out of 30 at home and the padres who are ranked 29th out of 30 at home...

Also losing 4 in a row 4 times in a short period is tough..but add a few filters...with a 4 game chase your odds of not losing are improved but obviously can still happen...

Good luck the rest of the season... take a look at the teams you lost on and you should see some extremely obvious weak points...

Even though my system is down 2 units you can assume my advice is solid...I was chasing in the 70's way before the JM system or most of this crap out there...

You can win...but maybe be open to advice....what I mentioned will not hurt anyone in the thread...gl the rest of the way... Also a reduction in bet amounts would not hurt...chases always turn negative with just a few losses...


No answer but I see you edited the cubs to San Diego...bring yourself down a notch...some of us have been doing this a lot longer than you...

[J.M. Disciple]

I know a morrison "calender" has been made from a few people....

Can someone post it please???

At least all the plays for this month?

[J.M. Disciple]

ya 5:00am and got all my bets locked in for rest of the day.... FEELS GREAT!!! dont have to wait around or constantly check back on the forums for the picks to be posted.

BOL today

[teecee]

just burned through 48 units in a less than a week. my trial run is over, something epic should definitely be on the horizon. g/l.

[COYLO]

that's not a bad idea g's picks, im going to use that next time. i played risky and lost the lot on padres but that's my fault no one else's, wallco keep it up bro hope thing's take off again now. see you again when i re-up

[h00dini]

Wallco MLB PLU$$$
2011 System to date: 76-6
System profit/loss: +2.62 units (finished series)
Since my first post: -17.64 units (61-6) (fin. series)
Current open series: 0

(6/2/11) San Diego (M/L) (D) - Loss
(6/2/11) San Diego (-1½) (D) – Loss


(A) 41-41
(B) 18-23
(C) 10-13
(D) 7-6


Games for (6/3/11):
Chicago Cubs @ St. Louis (M/L) (A) *Official* (8:15 pm EDT)
Chicago Cubs @ St. Louis (-1½) (A) *Official* (8:15 pm EDT)
Oakland @ Boston (M/L) (A) *Official* (7:10 pm EDT)
Oakland @ Boston (-1½) (A) *Official* (7:10 pm EDT)
Detroit (M/L) @ Chicago White Sox (A) *Official* (8:10 pm EDT)
Detroit (M/L) @ Chicago White Sox (A) *Official* (8:10 pm EDT)

Detroit qualified under two different sets of criteria, they will be treated as two separate bets (both M/L). System will record two wins or losses for this series.


** Do not place any wagers on teams unless the word “Official” appears next to the game. All lines and standings are based on final lines from ScoresandOdds.com. Some of the unofficial plays may change to the other team by game time. Official plays will not change. Keep checking for updated posts until all games are marked “official”. If your book is offering (+1½) on the (-1½) plays above, buy the alternate line for (-1½) on the team I have listed at (-1½), not the other team. NEVER PLAY (+1½) LINE ON ANY GAME IN THIS SYSTEM.
System backtest can be found in post #3446.

all plays official so soon? me likey likey

[dogs1972]

nobody's going tout around here anymore. what a fuking beating.

[G's pks]

that's not a bad idea g's picks, im going to use that next time. i played risky and lost the lot on padres but that's my fault no one else's, wallco keep it up bro hope thing's take off again now. see you again when i re-up

just wanted to add...a few other things for you to watch for...

I wanted to say something but when I tried to talk baseball and stats in the thread someone said "no" this is a system! Well what do these people think a baseball system is based on...hopefully baseball!

Filters can be added...changes can be made...there is no perfect system...but be at least aware of what you are playing especially if some of you really lost 55 units this week...

When the Cubs lost they were completely up against the wall...injuries and the fact Myers was 9-0 in last 10 starts against the Cubs...and after that "D" loss 10-0 last 11...

As far as the Padres go...ranked...29 out of 30 at home...and it only gets worse...last in all of baseball in batting 30/30 and 29th out of 30 in runs scored...they have a run differential of -26 and the list goes on...

Well take care and good luck the rest of the way... With a 4 game chase you should win a very high rate of plays...the 4 "D" losses in the last week and the six total...well a few filters and they could have been reduced...but obviously no one is paying for this system, and hopefully no one plans on paying for it...obviously 6 chase losses on a 4 game chase is not good before the all star break...so it is possible to win...but maybe more on a suggestion level and make each other aware of some of the facts, streaks, injuries whatever...no communcation in the thread and it has cost all of you... GL after your reload...and everyone else gl with the plays this weekend...hope you guys go on a nice long run...

[CashMoney]

you are right....what do you use? any suggestions?

I use my own system to cap games. The bottom line is that if people are placing wagers they should know how to cap games. It's not easy and it takes time to learn and to develop a system what works for you.

If there was a chase system that actually worked everyone would be doing it and turning a profit would be easy. The problem with these chase systems is if it turns a profit in a year then it's the best things since sliced bread when the reality is it was just luck.

It's beyond me how people play the JM System, it doesn't work, never has and never will.

[COYLO]

thanks g's you too.

[DreJay25]

Wallco, because I did not have a large bankroll to begin with I am unable to follow anymore, but I am a firm believer in this system. I know that as with every system there will always be ups and downs because, frankly, if there weren't it would not be considered gambling. This system will be successful come years end. Excellent work you have put in and your effort is phenomenal. Thanks so much.

[BCC585]

I think it's funny a lot of the people are bashing on him right now where riding his d*ck the other week when he was hot.
People are funny.
I see a lot of fake people in here

[ross607]

I think it's funny a lot of the people are bashing on him right now where riding his d*ck the other week when he was hot. People are funny. I see a lot of fake people in here

Exactly

[ok15533]

wallco play is against JM again hmm time to flush some money down the drain

[teecee]

I think it's funny a lot of the people are bashing on him right now where riding his d*ck the other week when he was hot.
People are funny.
I see a lot of fake people in here

i'm sure this was not directed at me, but . . . .


when i was up 80%, i posted that. when i lost it all, i posted that. definitely no hate here. i just did not feel like depositing a whole lot of money. when my 401k is showing negative returns, that is when i defer more money. the system is getting raped, now is the time to play. i'm going on vacation in a couple weeks, and will use the money i have currently for that purpose. i'll probably reload in a month or so, and hope it works out for all of you that put enough money into this venture.

[Fede_Gu]

I think it's funny a lot of the people are bashing on him right now where riding his d*ck the other week when he was hot.
People are funny.
I see a lot of fake people in here

I don't think so.
I think people is just way too emotional.
Frustration is totally understandable, hate no.

We're all down at this point, the key is to stay calm (and a good money management, for sure).

As I said 4(D) bet in 3 days are probably a bankroll crusher for many but it's not a good reason to start a fight.

If you have no longer faith in Wallco system, simply don't place any other wager on his picks.

[J.M. Disciple]

I use my own system to cap games. The bottom line is that if people are placing wagers they should know how to cap games. It's not easy and it takes time to learn and to develop a system what works for you.

If there was a chase system that actually worked everyone would be doing it and turning a profit would be easy. The problem with these chase systems is if it turns a profit in a year then it's the best things since sliced bread when the reality is it was just luck.

It's beyond me how people play the JM System, it doesn't work, never has and never will.

Wallco's system, JM systems, as well as many other systems have been proven to win year and year again. People only lose with these systems whenever they fail to manage their money correctly. After 1 year you say its luck? what about 2 years? 3 years? 4 years? how many years of profits do you need to admit its not luck? Its simple statistics and thats why people are professional sports bettors.

Are you calling their whole career and thousands if not millions of dollars made luck?

Com'on bro

All of us who followed the JM system in the NBA thread made money i know that for a fact. Some made more then others, just depends on how you managed your money.

Can't wait for NBA to start, cause i know i can make a shit load of money in nBA.... i frankly dont know much about baseball. NBA is my sports and i literally print money using NBA systems.

Hopefully i learn enough about baseball to do the same this year.

I wish you luck bro, just be opened minded about stuff, but not too gullible same time. Don't be stuborn about something until you have tried it or at least back tested yourself.

[Fede_Gu]

I know that betting on system is a very hard and long race, but if I'were frustrated b/c of 2/3 units loss or more (as many of us) after two months probably is not the phrase I would listen.

Just my 2 cent. And BOL all!

[hagball52]

JM MLB System

2011 Official season series record 7-0 (v1)
(A) 4-3
(B) 2-1
(C) 1-0
V2 plays 1-0
V3 system 1-0
Unofficial series 6-0

*Unofficial*

(6/02/2011) Minnesota (.448) @ Kansas City (.491) R/L (A) Win

Next Plays

Official

(6/03/2011) Chicago White Sox (.496) v Detroit (.505) M/L (A) (6/04 (B) & 6/05 (C) if necessary)

V3

(6/03/2011) Kansas City (.487)v Minnesota (.450) M/L (A) (6/04 (B) & 6/05 (C) if necessary)

Notes: Put the current rpi up. I really like the White Sox in this series. I like their pitching match ups all 3 days. Also if you noticed there is a (C) bet possible on the V3 play. That is because it is a 4 game set. Normally there would only be an A and a B bet. That just increases the chances of a win. GL all

[million2one]

Thanks Hag for keeping us straight,
I can't even follow this anymore, just looking for your update.

[h00dini]

Wallco, because I did not have a large bankroll to begin with I am unable to follow anymore, but I am a firm believer in this system. I know that as with every system there will always be ups and downs because, frankly, if there weren't it would not be considered gambling. This system will be successful come years end. Excellent work you have put in and your effort is phenomenal. Thanks so much.

[B]Don't be an idiot. You lost your bankroll however little it was and you still believe in this system.? What system? Do you know what the next plays are? Do you know what has to happen for a game to be a play? What happens if walco crokes tomorrow, what are the plays? What happens if there are 3 D bets and walco slept in, got into an accident, was getting laid, what are the plays????

[pagodo]

Thanks for the plays, Wallco!

Let's get 6+ units back this weekend
Combined with KC and the White Sox, it should be 8+ units cashed in the next several days. I love the DET@ChW series, JM bet on the White Sox, Wallco 2 units on Detroit, good stuff.

Best of luck, everyone!

[h00dini]

I think it's funny a lot of the people are bashing on him right now where riding his d*ck the other week when he was hot.
People are funny.
I see a lot of fake people in here

Your right, people can't follow these plays and when he loses they bash him. That's not fair to walco cuz he really is going out of his way to post his games. My beef with the guy is, until he post what guidelines and rules he follows making this a system, it's not a system.

[h00dini]

wallco play is against JM again hmm time to flush some money down the drain

No matter how much of a bullshitting dumb ass JM is, we can document his plays and see that overall it is a winning "SYSTEM".

[h00dini]

I don't think so.
I think people is just way too emotional.
Frustration is totally understandable, hate no.

We're all down at this point, the key is to stay calm (and a good money management, for sure).

As I said 4(D) bet in 3 days are probably a bankroll crusher for many but it's not a good reason to start a fight.

If you have no longer faith in Wallco system, simply don't place any other wager on his picks.

the walco system? What is that exactly?

[J.M. Disciple]

[b]Don't be an idiot. You lost your bankroll however little it was and you still believe in this system.? What system? Do you know what the next plays are? Do you know what has to happen for a game to be a play? What happens if walco crokes tomorrow, what are the plays? What happens if there are 3 D bets and walco slept in, got into an accident, was getting laid, what are the plays????

wallco is only allowed to post plays because he is selling the rights to his system. There for he is not allowed to tell people what the system is. This has already been discussed in this forum.

Give it a break please.

If you don't like his system then dont bet it. You don't need to be the one convincing other people not to make money with his system. Were down like 17 units at the moment, which could easily be made up this week. Over the past like 6 years the system is up like 500 units.

Wallco is a man of his word... I know he spent a lot of time back testing this system towards the end of the basketball season. I assure you he is not just pulling random plays out of a hat.

It probably has something to do with ML and RL.

RL stat for the favorite is that they win by 2 or more runs 70% of the time and only by 1 run 30% of the time.

Just saying thats probably a stat that wallco put into his system, this allows small losses if you split your unit size between the two.

Based on this stat you should be wagering more on Run line -1.5 then ML i believe.

[hagball52]

Here's an update JM System Plays.
4/25 MIL v CIN Win [b] 4/26 O
5/02 LAA @ BOS Win [C] 5/04 O
5/03 SEA v TEX Win [A] U
5/06 TAM @ BAL Win [A] O
5/09 NYM @ COL Win [A] O
5/09 CHW @ LAA Win [A] U
5/13 SEA @ CLE Win [A] U
5/13 BAL @ TAM Win [b] 5/14 O
5/23 BOS @ CLE Win [b] 5/24 U
5/23 MIL v WAS Win [A] O
5/30 SEA v BAL Win [A] O
5/30 WAS v PHI Win [A] U
6/02 MIN @ KAN Win [A] U
6/03 CHW v DET
6/06 BAL v OAK
6/07 NYY v BOS
6/09 DET V SEA
6/14 DET v CLE
6/14 ARI v SFO
6/17 OAK v SFO
7/01 CIN v CLE
7/01 SDG @ SEA
7/04 STL v CIN
7/04 MIN v TAM
7/14 COL v MIL
7/14 BAL v CLE
7/21 MIN v DET
7/22 OAK @ NYY
7/22 CHC v HOU
7/22 SDG @ PHI
7/29 BOS @ CHW
7/29 KAN v CLE
8/02 KAN v BAL
8/08 HOU @ ARI
8/12 SFO @ FLA
8/12 PIT @ MIL
8/12 ARI v NYM
8/15 SFO @ ATL
8/22 BOS @ TEX
9/09 PIT v FLA
9/12 HOU v PHI

The team on the left is the one to bet on. This is a running account on the JM MLB plays. It is every play and does not show R/L or M/L . It’s just my personal updateable list. I’ll post it from time to time just so all of you can keep up. The JM MLB System page will have the scores broken down. Hope this helps.

[teecee]

wallco is only allowed to post plays because he is selling the rights to his system. There for he is not allowed to tell people what the system is. This has already been discussed in this forum.

Give it a break please.

If you don't like his system then dont bet it. You don't need to be the one convincing other people not to make money with his system. Were down like 17 units at the moment, which could easily be made up this week. Over the past like 6 years the system is up like 500 units.

Wallco is a man of his word... I know he spent a lot of time back testing this system towards the end of the basketball season. I assure you he is not just pulling random plays out of a hat.

It probably has something to do with ML and RL.

RL stat for the favorite is that they win by 2 or more runs 70% of the time and only by 1 run 30% of the time.

Just saying thats probably a stat that wallco put into his system, this allows small losses if you split your unit size between the two.

Based on this stat you should be wagering more on Run line -1.5 then ML i believe.

given the fact that the plays are under .500 overall, i would argue that you should only play the +money wagers. although i may be wrong. it happens from time to time.

[dantanner]

DIY baseball system

SO far the system is 7-0 +8 units

here is the latest pick from the system

Oakland A's +165 @ Boston

For June 3, 2011

[J.M. Disciple]

for wallco's system are you all risking a unit or betting to win a unit on the -1.5 run line? If you are doing Labby method i think it would be more profitable to risk a unit so your getting a 2:1 ratio. Then your actually clearing 3 #s on the -1.5 run line instead of just 2.

favorites win on average 58% of the time. Of that 58% the run line is covered 40 of 58 times. So if you are splitting your units up it should be 70% of your unit on run line and bet to win 30% of a unit on ML.

so for instance todays games

STL -1.5 run is is at +130 and ML is at -175
I would bet $70 to win win $91 on run line
and $30 to win 17 ML.


so if they win by 1 only which is only going to happen 30% of the time your down 1/2 a unit. but if they win by 2 or more your up 1.18 units. and if they flat out lose then your only down 1 unit.

as opposed to betting to win 1 unit.
ML is $87.50 to win $50
and RL is $38.46 to win $50

where if they win by 1 run your up $12 and if they win by 2 runs your up 1 unit. and if they lose your down 1.23 units.


make sense? I think Risking $70 RL and $30 ML shows a greater profit long run.

Let me know if im wrong.

[J.M. Disciple]

SO far the system is 7-0 +8 units

here is the latest pick from the system

Oakland A's +165 @ Boston

For June 3, 2011

this is Dyi baseball system? What type of system is this?