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  • Formulawiz
    Restricted User
    • 01-12-09
    • 1589

    #1051
    Originally posted by barts185
    In case Formulawiz isn't around, if I now understand it (pretty sure I do, but not 100%), what you need to have is

    DET be -140 or lower.

    The theoretical line is DET -165.

    So if it's DET -140 or lower (has to be a minimum of 25 cent difference), and it looks like the value would be on DET, we go opposite and play OAK.

    Of course, you need to check 15-20 minutes before gametime to make sure that the line is still acceptable.
    Its not really an opposite play. In my conversation with sportrends about this system they indicated when they come up with their proj ML, for Ex: -165, this where the ML should fall around. If the actual ML is -140, we can look at this as the glass half full or half empty. The logic is that the line should be -165 so why is the Actual ML so much less. Of course it looks like your getting good value at -140 and therefore you should play the fav at a lower ML. But in actuallity sportrends says the line is too low and there must be a good reason for this we is not obvious to us, so therefore they go with the dog. Hopefully I made some sense.
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    • ShivaBowl
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 03-09-10
      • 5133

      #1052
      Originally posted by barts185
      Why would it have to drop to -104?

      The theoretical line is DET -165, the sportrends play is OAK.

      Is the -104 some other system you use?

      Theres no play on OAK if at -140 .25 -140=115 current line of +112 OAK +3 = 115 I need OAK at +115 or better?
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      • ShivaBowl
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 03-09-10
        • 5133

        #1053
        Originally posted by Formulawiz
        Its not really an opposite play. In my conversation with sportrends about this system they indicated when they come up with their proj ML, for Ex: -165 as in the DET game today, this where the ML should fall around. The actual line is -140 so we can look at this as the glass half full or half empty. The logic is that the line should be -165 so why is the Actual ML so much less. Of course it looks like your getting good value at -140 and you should play the fav at a lower ML. But in actuallity sportrends says the line is too low and there must be a good reason for this, so therefore they go with the dog. Hopefully I made some sense.

        Theres no play on OAK if at -140 .25 -140=115 current line of +112 OAK +3 = 115 I need OAK at +115 or better?
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        • Formulawiz
          Restricted User
          • 01-12-09
          • 1589

          #1054
          Originally posted by ShivaBowl
          Theres no play on OAK if at -140 .25 -140=115 current line of +112 OAK +3 = 115 I need OAK at +115 or better?
          Your getting yourself all confused. I just explained it to you in the above ex:. Take any game where the actual line is -155 and the proj ML is -130, the play would be on the fav. If the actual ML drops more the .25 below the Proj ML of -130 to a -105 there is no play.
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          • peterpan19
            Restricted User
            • 11-02-08
            • 3377

            #1055
            Tpr:
            mil, cin, was
            If under -175
            GL
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            • barts185
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 12-13-09
              • 815

              #1056
              Originally posted by peterpan19
              Tpr:
              mil, cin, was
              If under -175
              GL
              Could you point me to where the additional filters are discussed? I'm looking through the thread, and can't find it and I'm coming up with a lot more / different games based on what's on the website (see post 1045).

              Thanks,
              Bart
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              • ShivaBowl
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 03-09-10
                • 5133

                #1057
                xxx
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                • ShivaBowl
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 03-09-10
                  • 5133

                  #1058
                  xxx
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                  • ShivaBowl
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 03-09-10
                    • 5133

                    #1059
                    xxx
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                    • Formulawiz
                      Restricted User
                      • 01-12-09
                      • 1589

                      #1060
                      Originally posted by ShivaBowl
                      This is the paid play i received from sports trends today..

                      Take Oakland W/Anderson over Detroit W/Porcello NO PLAY if OAK > -140

                      SPORTBOOK LINE IS AT DET -120 OAK +110 Proj ML DET -165
                      165-.25=-140 But it not that simple if the line keeps droping on OAK then the plays off ITs all about value? I cant just look at no play at 140 theres a lot more to it then that. ?
                      Giving out sportrends plays is forbidden. We dont need any problems from them especially since they have been bent over backwards for us.
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                      • Formulawiz
                        Restricted User
                        • 01-12-09
                        • 1589

                        #1061
                        Originally posted by ShivaBowl
                        xxx
                        Yes OAK was a play. OAK is not the fav its detroit. You need to read the filters and rules.
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                        • sfi50
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 05-06-10
                          • 370

                          #1062
                          thanks

                          will keep track thanks for your hard work
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                          • sixersbbiv
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 04-25-10
                            • 27

                            #1063
                            GL on ur picks
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                            • ShivaBowl
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 03-09-10
                              • 5133

                              #1064
                              xxx
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                              • ShivaBowl
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 03-09-10
                                • 5133

                                #1065
                                Dog, I thought I was losing my mind I had the system down 24 hrs ago and then I read some posts and completely lost it.
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                                • annina
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 11-24-08
                                  • 129

                                  #1066
                                  Originally posted by Formulawiz
                                  Yes OAK was a play. OAK is not the fav its detroit. You need to read the filters and rules.
                                  Oak was a winner
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                                  • Formulawiz
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 01-12-09
                                    • 1589

                                    #1067
                                    Yesterday the ML system went 3-0. The plays were MIL, OAK, TB and COL dropped out. Too bad that was a winner too. The last couple of days ML system is 15-3.

                                    Anyway the software BB went 2-0 and the PT is on fire and went 7-1.

                                    I believe the last time the ML system went 0-4 was on a Sunday. We need to watch out today.
                                    The ML plays will be up later.
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                                    • Willie Bee
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 02-14-06
                                      • 15726

                                      #1068
                                      Originally posted by Formulawiz
                                      Giving out sportrends plays is forbidden. We dont need any problems from them especially since they have been bent over backwards for us.
                                      It is not forbidden by SBR for posters to list plays they have purchased. It would be better served, however, if the plays were listed in the Service Plays forum instead of the baseball forum.
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                                      • Formulawiz
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 01-12-09
                                        • 1589

                                        #1069
                                        Peter, Nice winning day yesterday with TPR system going 2-1
                                        ML plays up later. Again I must mention we need to be very careful with todays plays.
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                                        • Formulawiz
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 01-12-09
                                          • 1589

                                          #1070
                                          Todays ML plays based on early lines

                                          ATL,? MIL, LAD?, TB?
                                          Again watch out for those high ML today.
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                                          • barts185
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 12-13-09
                                            • 815

                                            #1071

                                            Not Florida today?

                                            Projected FLA +120
                                            Actual -130 and moving up

                                            So value would appear to be on PHI which means we take FLA, right?





                                            Sorry - I forgot about the filters. My bad
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                                            • peterpan19
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 11-02-08
                                              • 3377

                                              #1072
                                              Originally posted by barts185
                                              Could you point me to where the additional filters are discussed? I'm looking through the thread, and can't find it and I'm coming up with a lot more / different games based on what's on the website (see post 1045). Thanks, Bart
                                              -175 is the cut off, no play against 2 game win streak (unless also on 2 game plus win streak), same for 2 game loosing streak, no new pitcher (less than 20 IP)

                                              short version

                                              TPR:
                                              PHI, was, atl, tor, mil

                                              GL
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                                              • barts185
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 12-13-09
                                                • 815

                                                #1073
                                                Originally posted by peterpan19
                                                -175 is the cut off, no play against 2 game win streak (unless also on 2 game plus win streak), same for 2 game loosing streak, no new pitcher (less than 20 IP)

                                                short version

                                                TPR:
                                                PHI, was, atl, tor, mil

                                                GL

                                                Thanks!
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                                                • annina
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 11-24-08
                                                  • 129

                                                  #1074
                                                  Originally posted by Formulawiz
                                                  Yesterday the ML system went 3-0. The plays were MIL, OAK, TB and COL dropped out. Too bad that was a winner too. The last couple of days ML system is 15-3.

                                                  Anyway the software BB went 2-0 and the PT is on fire and went 7-1.

                                                  I believe the last time the ML system went 0-4 was on a Sunday. We need to watch out today.
                                                  The ML plays will be up later.
                                                  wow wow wow
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                                                  • Formulawiz
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 01-12-09
                                                    • 1589

                                                    #1075
                                                    ML system went 2-1 yesterday.

                                                    As I pointed out yesterday we need to be cautious on Sundays, because there were many teams that were on a major losing streak and came through to win.

                                                    Anyway the software BB had no plays but the PT system went 5-2.

                                                    Anyway ML plays later.
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                                                    • Formulawiz
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 01-12-09
                                                      • 1589

                                                      #1076
                                                      Todays ML system plays based on early lines.
                                                      FLA, CHC, STL.
                                                      NYM won yesterday but is not a play today because SD is on a 2 game winning streak. Secondly the NYM are travelling out west for the first game of a series. I usually dont like playing on such teams.
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                                                      • peterpan19
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 11-02-08
                                                        • 3377

                                                        #1077
                                                        ok first month now with TPR almost in the books so here is an update on the records so far:
                                                        62-50 +4.09 units
                                                        favs only 46-33 +1.94 units
                                                        dogs only 16-17 +2.15 units
                                                        NL only 32-31 -3.66 units
                                                        AL only 30-19 7.75 units
                                                        between +140 and -140 37-33 2.41 units

                                                        we are still in the plus, but as you can see, the AL is much more profitable than the NL, something to keep an eye on.

                                                        GL
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                                                        • peterpan19
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 11-02-08
                                                          • 3377

                                                          #1078
                                                          TPR today:
                                                          DET, MIL, CHC, CIN, MIN

                                                          GL
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                                                          • Formulawiz
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 01-12-09
                                                            • 1589

                                                            #1079
                                                            Originally posted by peterpan19
                                                            ok first month now with TPR almost in the books so here is an update on the records so far:
                                                            62-50 +4.09 units
                                                            favs only 46-33 +1.94 units
                                                            dogs only 16-17 +2.15 units
                                                            NL only 32-31 -3.66 units
                                                            AL only 30-19 7.75 units
                                                            between +140 and -140 37-33 2.41 units

                                                            we are still in the plus, but as you can see, the AL is much more profitable than the NL, something to keep an eye on.

                                                            GL
                                                            Nice breakdown.
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                                                            • Formulawiz
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 01-12-09
                                                              • 1589

                                                              #1080
                                                              I am trying out something new. Does anyone know a good site that shows the win/loss record when a pitcher starts a game besides Covers.
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                                                              • peterpan19
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 11-02-08
                                                                • 3377

                                                                #1081
                                                                formula
                                                                what do you need? just win/loss record for a pitcher ? or win/loss against a specific team?
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                                                                • Formulawiz
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 01-12-09
                                                                  • 1589

                                                                  #1082
                                                                  Originally posted by peterpan19
                                                                  formula
                                                                  what do you need? just win/loss record for a pitcher ? or win/loss against a specific team?
                                                                  Just win/loss record for a pitcher when he starts the game. The win/loss records the way most sites show it dont take into account if the pitcher is taken out and the bullpen win or lose the game which is not his fault.
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                                                                  • barts185
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 12-13-09
                                                                    • 815

                                                                    #1083
                                                                    Originally posted by Formulawiz
                                                                    Just win/loss record for a pitcher when he starts the game. The win/loss records the way most sites show it dont take into account if the pitcher is taken out and the bullpen win or lose the game which is not his fault.
                                                                    The statfox game matchup page shows both the record for the team when a pitcher started, and the pitcher's record when he is recorded as the winning / losing pitcher.



                                                                    If you click on the pitchers name, you will also see the units won / lost if you played that starter in different situations (again, every game they started, not just when they were the pitcher of record).

                                                                    Take Care,
                                                                    Bart
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                                                                    • peterpan19
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 11-02-08
                                                                      • 3377

                                                                      #1084
                                                                      Originally posted by Formulawiz
                                                                      Just win/loss record for a pitcher when he starts the game. The win/loss records the way most sites show it dont take into account if the pitcher is taken out and the bullpen win or lose the game which is not his fault.
                                                                      ok, now I know what you mean

                                                                      Originally posted by barts185
                                                                      The statfox game matchup page shows both the record for the team when a pitcher started, and the pitcher's record when he is recorded as the winning / losing pitcher. http://www.statfox.com/mlb/gamematchup.asp If you click on the pitchers name, you will also see the units won / lost if you played that starter in different situations (again, every game they started, not just when they were the pitcher of record). Take Care, Bart
                                                                      thx, you beat me too it ;-)
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                                                                      • Cranium
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 09-05-08
                                                                        • 363

                                                                        #1085
                                                                        Would HOU be a ML play if it drops to -175 or less?

                                                                        Thanks
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