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  • posey
    SBR MVP
    • 05-23-14
    • 1112

    #211
    Originally posted by mitch51
    Toronto looks pretty good but I have learned to never count the Yankees out until the end of the ninth.
    Then F5 would be a nice option for the future.
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    • mitch51
      SBR MVP
      • 05-15-12
      • 4587

      #212
      Originally posted by posey
      Then F5 would be a nice option for the future.
      You are correct although we did try the FF last year and got burned a little. This is a brand new year, though. FF remains a viable option though.
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      • 16kredit
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 11-16-13
        • 572

        #213
        so 4 plays today, FML missed toronto.
        Do you always post picks early and thats all, or you might add some later on?
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        • mitch51
          SBR MVP
          • 05-15-12
          • 4587

          #214
          Originally posted by 16kredit
          so 4 plays today, FML missed toronto.
          Do you always post picks early and thats all, or you might add some later on?
          Normally we post once a day unless there are games that need to be up early and then we'll post twice but state that we'll be back later for the afternoon games.

          We try to give everybody time to bet our games.

          Today's games post 196.

          Hope this helps.
          Ali
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          • mitch51
            SBR MVP
            • 05-15-12
            • 4587

            #215
            ALI!!! ALI!!! ALI!!! Hitting Toronto, 2-0 with the dogs.
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            • jerseybo
              SBR Rookie
              • 12-27-11
              • 1

              #216
              Awesome!!!!
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              • mitch51
                SBR MVP
                • 05-15-12
                • 4587

                #217
                Originally posted by jerseybo
                Awesome!!!!
                Thanks will have update later.

                Ali
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                • mitch51
                  SBR MVP
                  • 05-15-12
                  • 4587

                  #218
                  Originally posted by mitch51

                  04.06.15 ALI DOGS

                  1pm ET
                  913 TOR +125 betting 1.00/1.25 won

                  3pm ET
                  928 PHI +105 betting 1.00/1.05 lost

                  4pm ET
                  905 ATL +120 betting 1.00/1.20 won
                  919 CWS +110 betting 1.00/1.10 lost



                  04.06.15 HAYDUKES

                  2pm ET
                  902 MIL -150 Betting .50/.33 lost

                  10pm ET
                  926 OAK -150 betting .50/.33 won


                  GLTA

                  Ali & Hayduke

                  Update:

                  ALI DOGS
                  2-2 +.45u
                  3-2 +1.45u .60%

                  HAYDUKE
                  1-1 -.17u .50%

                  Good night

                  Ali & Hayduke
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                  • RollinDo
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 09-04-13
                    • 13322

                    #219
                    I took Phils, ChiSox.
                    I hate betting dogs. I lose about 80% of those.
                    To each his own.
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                    • grey area
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-17-14
                      • 1187

                      #220
                      I went 2-3 yesterday but pounded the Braves, only dog you had I really liked.

                      Rockies, Rangers, Cardinals and Mariners make my starting list today.
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                      • mitch51
                        SBR MVP
                        • 05-15-12
                        • 4587

                        #221
                        Ali went 2-2 with the dogs and showed another day of profit. Some of these dogs can look rank but yet they still win. It's not easy to bet dogs but with our experience it's still the only way to go. I learned long ago that it was a very bad idea to try and cherry pick her picks. For example...I know a paid tout who took the Yankees yesterday while Ali was on Toronto as a dog. I tried to warn him. If you bet faves I wish you luck though.
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                        • RollinDo
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 09-04-13
                          • 13322

                          #222
                          Only time I take faves is in favorable spots with my pitchers...

                          Kershaw, King Felix, Kluber (home), De La Rosa (Home)...etc
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                          • mitch51
                            SBR MVP
                            • 05-15-12
                            • 4587

                            #223
                            Originally posted by RollinDo
                            Only time I take faves is in favorable spots with my pitchers...

                            Kershaw, King Felix, Kluber (home), De La Rosa (Home)...etc
                            I did this the last year I bet faves. Winning percentage was 78%. However, I showed no profit due to the juice on these aces. That was the last time I bet faves. I'll try to post a chart that tells you what you're winning percentage has to be betting faves. It's shocking.
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                            • Lefty123
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 04-24-13
                              • 800

                              #224
                              Mitch your correct big favorites will kill you.they are so scared of dogs I can't hook more then two together.wont lay more than 130 on favs I do play streaks big favs play run lines.Mitch keep up the good work.
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                              • mitch51
                                SBR MVP
                                • 05-15-12
                                • 4587

                                #225
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                                • jcromero2
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 04-16-14
                                  • 17

                                  #226
                                  Originally posted by mitch51
                                  Hi, 16credit, that's really a good question. Last year the most we ever lost was eight in a row going into the All-Star break. But immediately after that we turned around and won nine in a row. But we did drop some units in July for sure. Personally we recommend that you bet no more than 2% of your bankroll per bet. Also, we strongly recommend you bet them all. Although some of these dogs just look terrible, these are the ones that seem to cash half the time. We have learned not to drop any. This year we will take a little time off at the break, just a very volatile time for these dogs.

                                  Welcome aboard. Develop a game plan and stick by your guns. We are gonna cash on half of these dogs, we just don't know which half.
                                  Hi Mitch, last year follower here and checking in for this season. One question though, when you say you lost 8 in a row, do you mean 8 straight plays or 8 losing days?

                                  Thanks for the picks!
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                                  • mitch51
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 05-15-12
                                    • 4587

                                    #227
                                    Originally posted by Lefty123
                                    Mitch your correct big favorites will kill you.they are so scared of dogs I can't hook more then two together.wont lay more than 130 on favs I do play streaks big favs play run lines.Mitch keep up the good work.
                                    Now, this seems reasonable. If you average +120 you just have to win 45.45% of your bets. If you handicap these dogs you can get that 45.45% up to 50%. This is where you get your profit hitting dogs. This is what Ali does. But, man. You need plenty of tequila to get you through this. Lol.
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                                    • VegasPlayer
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 07-27-09
                                      • 3676

                                      #228
                                      Much better feeling going 2-2 and walking away from the window with extra $$$. Love the dogs.
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                                      • mitch51
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 05-15-12
                                        • 4587

                                        #229
                                        Originally posted by jcromero2
                                        Hi Mitch, last year follower here and checking in for this season. One question though, when you say you lost 8 in a row, do you mean 8 straight plays or 8 losing days?

                                        Thanks for the picks!
                                        Good question. This was 8 games. We have never even came close to 8 losing days in a row. But that hurt, though. Thing is right after those losses we won 9 games in a row. The dogs are volatile. But I think that the dogs are the only way to turn a profit. Betting these dogs is absolutely proven as far as we go.
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                                        • RollinDo
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 09-04-13
                                          • 13322

                                          #230
                                          Guess so, but when you only hit 20-25% like I do, it's a big hit.
                                          Question is how do you know which dogs to take?
                                          Good for you guys that you can cap that with success.
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                                          • mitch51
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 05-15-12
                                            • 4587

                                            #231
                                            Originally posted by VegasPlayer
                                            Much better feeling going 2-2 and walking away from the window with extra $$$. Love the dogs.
                                            I took two faves yesterday and won one. Lost -.17 units. Ali took four dogs and won two. She was +.45 showing a nice profit. That's it in a nutshell. VegasPlayer is right. There is a huge learning curve with this. We are gonna try to shorten this curve.

                                            Friends don't let friends bet favorites. Sharing is caring.
                                            Last edited by mitch51; 04-07-15, 11:15 AM. Reason: Haydukes typing error-Ali
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                                            • mitch51
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 05-15-12
                                              • 4587

                                              #232
                                              Originally posted by RollinDo
                                              Guess so, but when you only hit 20-25% like I do, it's a big hit.
                                              Question is how do you know which dogs to take?
                                              Good for you guys that you can cap that with success.
                                              Pitching, pitching, pitching. If you find a dog with a higher rated pitcher (we use Sagarin) you WILL win 50% of your dog bets. That simple. We also handicap a lot of other stuff...but pitching is where we start. When a dog team is throwing an ace and they are still a dog, the team seems to rally because they know that with this pitcher they have a shot. And believe it or not, every single player in the Bigs can hit dingers, including every player on the dog. You have to stick with it long term and get the big picture. You will see that Ali and I will lose a ton of games this year. Damn, we hate that part. But when the smoke clears at the end of the year we'll be up a lot of units. Ali is already up +12.90 units including the pre-season. That's $1,290 for a $100 bettor ALREADY. We want to see everyone here share in our winnings, no matter how you do it. We don't care how you bet, what you bet, or when you bet. We just want you to cash tickets and show a good profit at the end of the year without paying any touts. You can do this.
                                              Last edited by mitch51; 04-07-15, 11:33 AM. Reason: kindle sucks
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                                              • mitch51
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 05-15-12
                                                • 4587

                                                #233
                                                Good morning everyone

                                                Just to let everyone know we bet at our local sportsbook-Casablanca.

                                                04.07.15 ALI DOGS

                                                7pm ET
                                                951 ATL +120 1.00/1.20

                                                8pm ET
                                                953 STL +100 1.00/1.00

                                                10pm ET
                                                963 TX +140 1.00/1.40
                                                965 LAA +115 1.00/1.15



                                                04.07.15 HAYDUKES

                                                7pm ET
                                                962 TB +105 .50/.52

                                                10pm ET
                                                959 SD +150 .50/.75


                                                GLTA


                                                Ali & Hayduke
                                                Last edited by mitch51; 04-07-15, 12:28 PM. Reason: corrected betting amount for Hayduke
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                                                • IrishLuck777
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 01-25-14
                                                  • 332

                                                  #234
                                                  whats the reasoning for you to separate the plays now?
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                                                  • mitch51
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 05-15-12
                                                    • 4587

                                                    #235
                                                    Originally posted by IrishLuck777
                                                    whats the reasoning for you to separate the plays now?

                                                    If I had a smaller bank roll I would bet nothing but Ali's Dog picks. She has a strict system and she never messes around with it. All I am doing is trying to hedge her bets a little bit and take some dogs that normally would look good but are outside of her system. I hope to go 50% with mine too.

                                                    Hayduke
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                                                    • mhille
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 02-19-12
                                                      • 183

                                                      #236
                                                      Thanks for sharing. Quick question ... Does the 186-186 record on dog picks last year include both Ali and Hayduke's picks or were they from one or the other. Sorry if this has been answered before. Good luck today.
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                                                      • mitch51
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 05-15-12
                                                        • 4587

                                                        #237
                                                        Originally posted by mhille
                                                        Thanks for sharing. Quick question ... Does the 186-186 record on dog picks last year include both Ali and Hayduke's picks or were they from one or the other. Sorry if this has been answered before. Good luck today.
                                                        We were doing them together last year. This year we are hedging Ali's system picks not that they need hedging. The 186-186 were our system picks thrown together. Either way we hope to go 50% at the end of the season.

                                                        Hayduke
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                                                        • Looking4Winners
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-21-11
                                                          • 1198

                                                          #238
                                                          Originally posted by mitch51
                                                          Good morning everyone

                                                          Just to let everyone know we bet at our local sportsbook-Casablanca.

                                                          04.07.15 ALI DOGS

                                                          7pm ET
                                                          951 ATL +120 1.00/1.20

                                                          8pm ET
                                                          953 STL +100 1.00/1.00

                                                          10pm ET
                                                          963 TX +140 1.00/1.40
                                                          965 LAA +115 1.00/1.15



                                                          04.07.15 HAYDUKES

                                                          7pm ET
                                                          962 TB +105 .50/.52

                                                          10pm ET
                                                          959 SD +150 .50/.75


                                                          GLTA


                                                          Ali & Hayduke

                                                          FYI... StL/Cubs game postponed..
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                                                          • mitch51
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 05-15-12
                                                            • 4587

                                                            #239
                                                            Originally posted by Looking4Winners
                                                            FYI... StL/Cubs game postponed..

                                                            Thanks, it's good to know we can cash at least one ticket.

                                                            Hayduke
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                                                            • mitch51
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 05-15-12
                                                              • 4587

                                                              #240
                                                              Originally posted by mitch51
                                                              Good morning everyone

                                                              Just to let everyone know we bet at our local sportsbook-Casablanca.

                                                              04.07.15 ALI DOGS

                                                              7pm ET
                                                              951 ATL +120 1.00/1.20

                                                              8pm ET
                                                              953 STL +100 1.00/1.00 PPD

                                                              10pm ET
                                                              963 TX +140 1.00/1.40
                                                              965 LAA +115 1.00/1.15



                                                              04.07.15 HAYDUKES

                                                              7pm ET
                                                              962 TB +105 .50/.52

                                                              10pm ET
                                                              959 SD +150 .50/.75


                                                              GLTA


                                                              Ali & Hayduke

                                                              Just reminder for any who just popped in STL game PPD.

                                                              Ali
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                                                              • Yons18
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 01-06-15
                                                                • 324

                                                                #241
                                                                Question about your TB over BAL pick. Based on Sagarin, wouldn't you feel safer picking Baltimore as a favorite at the price given due to Karns small (and less than satisfactory) sample size compared to Chen's past results vs Ray's lack luster hitting vs Lefties in the spring. Just curious on your thoughts, I enjoy your guys thread.
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                                                                • EXhoosier10
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 07-06-09
                                                                  • 3122

                                                                  #242
                                                                  small sample size doesn't mean the guy is bad
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                                                                  • Yons18
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 01-06-15
                                                                    • 324

                                                                    #243
                                                                    Originally posted by EXhoosier10
                                                                    small sample size doesn't mean the guy is bad
                                                                    Never said that.
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                                                                    • mitch51
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 05-15-12
                                                                      • 4587

                                                                      #244
                                                                      Originally posted by Yons18
                                                                      Question about your TB over BAL pick. Based on Sagarin, wouldn't you feel safer picking Baltimore as a favorite at the price given due to Karns small (and less than satisfactory) sample size compared to Chen's past results vs Ray's lack luster hitting vs Lefties in the spring. Just curious on your thoughts, I enjoy your guys thread.
                                                                      Any American League team averaging between 1 and 3 (non-inclusive) runs per game on their season. In history this is SU: 57-40 (0.8 rpg, 58.7%, +18.5% Roi).
                                                                      Hope that answered your question.
                                                                      Hayduke





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                                                                      • mitch51
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 05-15-12
                                                                        • 4587

                                                                        #245
                                                                        Originally posted by mitch51
                                                                        Any American League team averaging between 1 and 3 (non-inclusive) runs per game on their season. In history this is SU: 57-40 (0.8 rpg, 58.7%, +18.5% Roi).
                                                                        Hope that answered your question.
                                                                        Hayduke

                                                                        I know it probably didn't, but using algorithms is almost mandatory anymore. This information indicates a 58.7% probability (57-40) that this dog will win in this particular situation. We are having some success with this but it's still weird. We're not totally used to this yet, but when you combine long term trends along with your capping, it can't hurt. Vegas gets tougher and tougher to beat, you have to use every tool in your arsenal. I hate those Vegas bastards with a passion.

                                                                        Hayduke
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