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	The KrakenBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 12-25-11
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 #1Damn man made global warming !!!Tags: None
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	muldoonSBR MVP- 01-04-10
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 #2When those millionaire rich scientists at NOAA say it - they're an agenda driven biased group.
 
 When an oil/gas funded think tank says the opposite..it's factComment
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	rkelly110BARRELED IN @ SBR!- 10-05-09
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 #3I think we ought to get a group together and march into the house chambers naked, saying it's too hot.
 Get a bunch on us that look like JJ, guaranteed they will change their tune. Comment Comment
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	 sourtwistSBR Hall of Famer sourtwistSBR Hall of Famer- 11-10-12
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 #4You guys don't actually believe in global warming, do you? I would have to think that if there's something we can agree on, this has to be it.
 
 Next to the federal reserve, this is absolutely the second biggest fraud in the history of the world.Comment
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	PAULYPOKERBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 12-06-08
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 #5Lol.......
 
 What happened to that dumb jackass Lets Go Retarded?
 
 Did he get caught biting and chewing on the turnbuckle at a WWE match?Comment
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	PAULYPOKERBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 12-06-08
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 #6yyyyyyComment
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	itchypickleSBR Posting Legend- 11-05-09
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	PAULYPOKERBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 12-06-08
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 #8Wow, sorry LGR
 
 I did not know this
 
 RIP,you are now free from all of your pain..
 
 This one's for you Comment Comment
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	The KrakenBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 12-25-11
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 #9The second biggest fraud in the history of the world is the GOP and Fox NewsOriginally posted by sourtwistYou guys don't actually believe in global warming, do you? I would have to think that if there's something we can agree on, this has to be it.
 
 Next to the federal reserve, this is absolutely the second biggest fraud in the history of the world.
 
 You're a victim of both
 
 But no worries, the liberals will always bail you out
 
 Just start a gofundme page sobbing about how your mantra in life was "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" and "personal responsibility" yet when it was actually time to be accountable and pull yourself up, you decided to lean on the same people whom you've criticized for all those years.
 
 And we'll still take care of you
 
 It's not your fault SourComment
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	DwightShruteSBR Aristocracy- 01-17-09
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 #10Top Scientists say global warming is a lie 
 ______________________________ 10 Dec 08 – More than 650 international scientists are about to make them selves heard at this week's UN global warming conference in Poland. They are there to debunk claims made by the UN IPCC and former Vice President Al Gore. Many current and former UN IPCC scientists have put out a report that debunks global warming. They say that it is all political hype, and point out that the earth may actually be cooling. 
 
 The 650 dissenting scientists are more than 12 times the number of UN scientists (52) who authored the media hyped IPCC 2007 Summary for Policymakers.
 
 The U.S. Senate report is the latest evidence of the growing groundswell of scientific opposition rising to challenge the UN and Gore. Scientific meetings are now being dominated by a growing number of skeptical scientists. The prestigious International Geological Congress, dubbed the geologists' equivalent of the Olympic Games, was held in Norway in August 2008 and prominently featured the voices and views of scientists skeptical of man-made global warming fears. [See Full report Here: & See: Skeptical scientists overwhelm conference: '2/3 of presenters and question-askers were hostile to, even dismissive of, the UN IPCC' ]
 
 A hint of what the upcoming report contains:
 
 “I am a skeptic…Global warming has become a new religion.” - Nobel Prize Winner for Physics, Ivar Giaever.
 
 “Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I can speak quite frankly….As a scientist I remain skeptical.” - Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to receive a PhD in meteorology and formerly of NASA who has authored more than 190 studies and has been called “among the most preeminent scientists of the last 100 years.”
 
 Warming fears are the “worst scientific scandal in the history…When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.” - UN IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning PhD environmental physical chemist.
 
 “The IPCC has actually become a closed circuit; it doesn’t listen to others. It doesn’t have open minds… I am really amazed that the Nobel Peace Prize has been given on scientifically incorrect conclusions by people who are not geologists,” - Indian geologist Dr. Arun D. Ahluwalia at Punjab University and a board member of the UN-supported International Year of the Planet.
 
 “The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC "are incorrect because they only are based on mathematical models and presented results at scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity.” - Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of Geophysics of the National Autonomous University of Mexico
 
 “It is a blatant lie put forth in the media that makes it seem there is only a fringe of scientists who don’t buy into anthropogenic global warming.” - U.S Government Atmospheric Scientist Stanley B. Goldenberg of the Hurricane Research Division of NOAA.
 
 “Even doubling or tripling the amount of carbon dioxide will virtually have little impact, as water vapour and water condensed on particles as clouds dominate the worldwide scene and always will.” – . Geoffrey G. Duffy, a professor in the Department of Chemical and Materials Engineering of the University of Auckland, NZ.
 
 “After reading [UN IPCC chairman] Pachauri's asinine comment [comparing skeptics to] Flat Earthers, it's hard to remain quiet.” - Climate statistician Dr. William M. Briggs, who specializes in the statistics of forecast evaluation, serves on the American Meteorological Society's Probability and Statistics Committee and is an Associate Editor of Monthly Weather Review.
 
 “For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming? For how many years must cooling go on?" - Geologist Dr. David Gee the chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International Geological Congress who has authored 130 plus peer reviewed papers, and is currently at Uppsala University in Sweden.
 
 “Gore prompted me to start delving into the science again and I quickly found myself solidly in the skeptic camp…Climate models can at best be useful for explaining climate changes after the fact.” - Meteorologist Hajo Smit of Holland, who reversed his belief in man-made warming to become a skeptic, is a former member of the Dutch UN IPCC committee.
 
 “Many [scientists] are now searching for a way to back out quietly (from promoting warming fears), without having their professional careers ruined.” - Atmospheric physicist James A. Peden, formerly of the Space Research and Coordination Center in Pittsburgh.
 
 “Creating an ideology pegged to carbon dioxide is a dangerous nonsense…The present alarm on climate change is an instrument of social control, a pretext for major businesses and political battle. It became an ideology, which is concerning.” - Environmental Scientist Professor Delgado Domingos of Portugal, the founder of the Numerical Weather Forecast group, has more than 150 published articles.
 
 “CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or another….Every scientist knows this, but it doesn’t pay to say so…Global warming, as a political vehicle, keeps Europeans in the driver’s seat and developing nations walking barefoot.” - Dr. Takeda Kunihiko, vice-chancellor of the Institute of Science and Technology Research at Chubu University in Japan.
 
 “The [global warming] scaremongering has its justification in the fact that it is something that generates funds.” - Award-winning Paleontologist Dr. Eduardo Tonni, of the Committee for Scientific Research in Buenos Aires and head of the Paleontology Department at the University of La Plata. # #Comment
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	The KrakenBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 12-25-11
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 #11Common Dwight
 
 If I were to write a college level paper right now, they wouldn't even let me use that article because it's too old
 
 Can't you find something within the last 5 years at least?
 
 And you know for every one you find, I can find one that says top scientists agree that climate change is being caused by humansComment
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	The KrakenBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 12-25-11
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 #12But I'll be frank and to the point, you're a smart guy but you're on the wrong side of this one and history will show it.
 
 Unfortunately, this issue is now personal to individuals because it's been politicized, so people automatically believe whatever their political party is railing for. People that have no education and can't even spell the word climate are now "experts" in their local coffee shops as they tell anyone and everyone that will listen that global warming is a LIE and just a big money grab for the left!
 
 Anyways here's one for your one
 
  It’s important to remember that scientists always focus on the evidence, not on opinions. Scientific evidence continues to show that human activities It’s important to remember that scientists always focus on the evidence, not on opinions. Scientific evidence continues to show that human activities
 "Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals1 show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree: Climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities. In addition, most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position. The following is a partial list of these organizations, along with links to their published statements and a selection of related resources."Comment
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	SharkAASBR MVP- 11-10-13
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 #13Man made global warming is one of the biggest lies in the history. I'm actually surprised, people still believe in this.
 
 Most of the CO2 emissions (about 97%), are caused by oceans, vulcanos and animal feces. However, CO2 isn't really a reason for the climate warming up. It's the sunspot activity, that is the reason.
 
 Man made global warming is a convenient lie, from which a group of people benefit massively.Comment
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	DwightShruteSBR Aristocracy- 01-17-09
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 #14I guess it comes down to who you want to believe. If you believe the government is notorious for wasting tons of money then its probable its all just a scam. I am not sure what the exact national debt is, but I don't think they're running a surplus.Originally posted by The KrakenCommon Dwight
 
 If I were to write a college level paper right now, they wouldn't even let me use that article because it's too old
 
 Can't you find something within the last 5 years at least?
 
 And you know for every one you find, I can find one that says top scientists agree that climate change is being caused by humans
 
 
 New Reports: There Is No Global Warming
 Friday, 15 May 2015 09:30 AM
 
 The liberal media machine has spent decades bulldozing anyone who tells you global warming is a sham.
 
 They even came up with a clever little title — “deniers.”
 
 Every time a heat wave hits, every time a picture of a lone polar bear gets taken . . . the left pounds the table for environmental reform, more policy, more money to combat climate change. But how much has the world really warmed?
 
 Their message is simple: Get on the man-made global warming bandwagon . . . or you’re just ignorant.
 
 But how much has the world really warmed?
 
 It’s an important question, considering the U.S. government spends $22 billion a year to fight the global warming crisis (twice as much as it spends protecting our border).
 
 To put that in perspective, that is $41,856 every minute going to global warming initiatives.
 
 But that's just the tip of a gargantuan iceberg.
 
 
 According to Forbes columnist Larry Bell, the ripple effect of global warming initiatives actually costs Americans $1.75 trillion . . . every year.
 
 That's three times larger than the entire U.S. federal budget deficit.
 
 So, has anyone stopped to ask . . . how much has the globe actually warmed?
 
 Well, we asked, and what we found was striking.
 
 According to NASA’s own data via Remote Sensing Systems(RSS), the world has warmed a mere .36 degrees Fahrenheit over the last 35 years (they started measuring the data in 1979).
  
 Hardly anything to panic about; however, that does mean the world is warmer, right?
 
 The problem with that argument is that we experienced the bulk of that warming between 1979 and 1998 . . . since then, we’ve actually had temperatures DROPPING!
 
 As can be seen in this chart, we haven’t seen any global warming for 17 years.
 
 Weakening the global warming argument is data showing that the North Polar ice cap is increasing in size. Recent satellite images from NASA actually reflect an increase of 43% to 63%.
 
 This is quite the opposite of what the global warming faction warned us.
 
 In 2007, while accepting his Nobel Prize for his global warming initiative, Al Gore made this striking prediction, “The North Polar ice cap is falling off a cliff. It could be completely gone in summer in as little as seven years. Seven years from now.”
 
 Al Gore could not have been more wrong. 
 
 However, despite this clear evidence that the temperatures are not increasing, the global warming hysteria only seems to be increasing.
 
 For example: President Obama himself tweeted on May 16, 2014: “97% of scientists agree: climate change is real, man-made and dangerous.” John Kerry, Al Gore, and a host of others have championed this statistic.
 
 Since then, it has become clear that this statistic was inaccurate.
 
 The Wall Street Journal went as far as to say, “The assertion that 97% of scientists believe that climate change is a man-made, urgent problem is a fiction.” Forbes headlined “Global Warming Alarmists Caught Doctoring ’97% Consensus’ Claims.”
 
 Come to find out, the study President Obama was citing was botched from the start.
 
 A host of other problems for the global warming crowd are emerging, such as . . .
 
 - Leaked emails from global warming scientists state that the Earth is not warming, such as this one from Kevin Trenberth that states, “The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty we can’t.”
- Claude Allegre, the founding father of the man-made global warming ethos, recently renounced his position that man has caused warming.
- Proof is emerging that Al Gore and even President Obama have financially benefited from fueling the global warming hysteria (click here for an internal report on this).
 
 
 It is becoming harder and harder for the global warming community to ignore some of the scientific data that show the Earth is not getting warmer . . . instead, the world is getting cooler.
 
 Which makes one wonder — why are we still spending $22 billion a year on global warming initiatives, and where is the money going? (Click Here to Read a Controversial Report on This Topic.)
 
 Suggested Reading for You: A former White House adviser and NASA consultant reveals startling proof that the global warming faction is hiding the truth . . . and gets attacked. Click Here.
 
 
 Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/MKTNews/globa...#ixzz3aJAZnNgi
 
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	The KrakenBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 12-25-11
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 #15it's really no surprise that theres such division along political lines, both sides publish studies declaring "700 top scientists agree global warming is a lie" and "97% of climate scientists agree that global warming is man-made and destroying our environment"
 
 Only one of those can be correct. It either is or it isnt. But it's confusing. These scientists forget more about climate change by lunch than most of us will ever know. How exactly are we supposed to be informed? So we pick a side a blindly back them.
 
 Shark is the guy in the coffee shop 
 
 "Ignorance lies not in the things you don't know but in the things you say ain't so" Will Rogers
 
 the article above will suffice as current but only barelyComment
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	rkelly110BARRELED IN @ SBR!- 10-05-09
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 #16Global warming is the result of too many homes, strip malls and the black top parking lots that go with them.
 Soil can't absorb the heat because it's covered up making more heat.
 
 But seriously, sharkaa got it wrong, the oceans absorb co2.
 
 I'm still up in the air about this. I believe we should take care of the earth for future generations, ourselves
 and wildlife. Anything we can do to do that, I'm for.
 
 I compare my daily weather reports. Each night they will post records, averages and the temps for the day.
 Some days, the records are way hotter 50- 60- or 100 years ago. Some even in this decade.Comment
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	SharkAASBR MVP- 11-10-13
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 #17Here are 2 questions for ya:Originally posted by The Krakenit's really no surprise that theres such division along lolitical lines, both sides put out these studies saying "700 top scientists agree global warming is a lie" and "97% of climate scientists agree that global warming is man-made and destroying our environment"
 
 Only one of those can be correct. It either is or it isnt.
 
 Shark is the guy in the coffee shop 
 
 "Ignorance lies not in the things you don't know but in the things you say ain't so" Will Rogers
 
 - How is it possible that the warmest period in Europe, was from 9th-14th century??
 
 - How is it possible that there was a significant drop in the temperature from mid 16th-mid 19th century in Europe??
 
 We will discuss further, when you'll answer these questions.Comment
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	SharkAASBR MVP- 11-10-13
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 #18When oceans evaporate, they're sending substantial amounts of CO2 in the air. It's been proven, that the oceans released 300-330 Gigatones of CO2 emissions in 2007, as man made CO2 emissions were at 26, 4 Gigatones in 2007. It is true, that they absorb CO2 though.Originally posted by rkelly110Global warming is the result of too many homes, strip malls and the black top parking lots that go with them.
 Soil can't absorb the heat because it's covered up making more heat.
 
 But seriously, sharkaa got it wrong, the oceans absorb co2.
 
 I'm still up in the air about this. I believe we should take care of the earth for future generations, ourselves
 and wildlife. Anything we can do to do that, I'm for.
 
 I compare my daily weather reports. Each night they will post records, averages and the temps for the day.
 Some days, the records are way hotter 50- 60- or 100 years ago. Some even in this decade.Comment
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	DwightShruteSBR Aristocracy- 01-17-09
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 #19Originally posted by The KrakenCommon Dwight
 
 Can't you find something within the last 5 years at least?
  
 
 Drought Blamed on Irreversible “Climate Change” Ends After Rainfall
 
 
 “Global warming” proponents disproven by thunderstorms
 Kit Daniels
 Prison Planet.com
 May 15, 2015
 The drought affecting Texas that was blamed on irreversible “climate change” is now over thanks to recent statewide rain.
  Credit: Angi English / Flickr Credit: Angi English / Flickr
 
 The U.S. Drought Monitor reveals that only small pockets of Texas are still undergoing drought conditions, in stark contrast to last year when the state was experiencing a severe drought which mainstream scientists blamed on permanent “global warming.”
  
  
 “The climate scientists have been warning us for decades that, due to climate change, there is likely to be a desert emerging in the Southwest — including West Texas, the area where most of Austin’s water comes from,” global warming proponent Roger Baker wrote last year.
 
 And about year ago CNN’s Donna Brazile infamously tweeted that “climate change is real” in response to the drought.
 
 “Most southerners now experience only 2 seasons – hot & humid,” she wrote. “Drought is present in places that had plenty of H20.”
 
 But the contrary, West Texas and other regions of the state just experienced rain storms lasting days.
 “Reports from across the [West Texas] region indicate rainfall totals for the past week or so range from as little as just more than an inch to a foot or more,” Ron Smith with Southwest Farm Press reported. “Some fell in a short period of time, creating erosion and flooding problems, but farmers say they’ll take on the repair chores in exchange for much needed moisture in the soil profile.”
 
 In fact, the U.S. Drought Monitor shows that on May 13, 2014, nearly 21% of Texas was under “exceptional drought” conditions, but on Tuesday that percentage was zero.
 Overall, moderate to exceptional drought in Texas declined from 73% to just under 23% over the past year, a drop of over 50%.
 
 It’s funny how “global warming” proponents are constantly disproven by the weather, and in a lame attempt to downplay their failed predictions, they are now trying to replace the phrase “global warming” with “man-made climate change.”
 
 “Global warming, climate change, all these things are just a dream come true for politicians,” MIT Professor Richard Lindzen admitted. “The opportunities for taxation, for policies, for control, for crony capitalism are just immense, you can see their eyes bulge.”Comment
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	The KrakenBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 12-25-11
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 #20What a nonsensical articleOriginally posted by DwightShrute
  
 
 Drought Blamed on Irreversible “Climate Change” Ends After Rainfall
 
 
 “Global warming” proponents disproven by thunderstorms
 Kit Daniels
 Prison Planet.com
 May 15, 2015
 The drought affecting Texas that was blamed on irreversible “climate change” is now over thanks to recent statewide rain.
  Credit: Angi English / Flickr Credit: Angi English / Flickr
 
 The U.S. Drought Monitor reveals that only small pockets of Texas are still undergoing drought conditions, in stark contrast to last year when the state was experiencing a severe drought which mainstream scientists blamed on permanent “global warming.”
  
  
 “The climate scientists have been warning us for decades that, due to climate change, there is likely to be a desert emerging in the Southwest — including West Texas, the area where most of Austin’s water comes from,” global warming proponent Roger Baker wrote last year.
 
 And about year ago CNN’s Donna Brazile infamously tweeted that “climate change is real” in response to the drought.
 
 “Most southerners now experience only 2 seasons – hot & humid,” she wrote. “Drought is present in places that had plenty of H20.”
 
 But the contrary, West Texas and other regions of the state just experienced rain storms lasting days.
 “Reports from across the [West Texas] region indicate rainfall totals for the past week or so range from as little as just more than an inch to a foot or more,” Ron Smith with Southwest Farm Press reported. “Some fell in a short period of time, creating erosion and flooding problems, but farmers say they’ll take on the repair chores in exchange for much needed moisture in the soil profile.”
 
 In fact, the U.S. Drought Monitor shows that on May 13, 2014, nearly 21% of Texas was under “exceptional drought” conditions, but on Tuesday that percentage was zero.
 Overall, moderate to exceptional drought in Texas declined from 73% to just under 23% over the past year, a drop of over 50%.
 
 It’s funny how “global warming” proponents are constantly disproven by the weather, and in a lame attempt to downplay their failed predictions, they are now trying to replace the phrase “global warming” with “man-made climate change.”
 
 “Global warming, climate change, all these things are just a dream come true for politicians,” MIT Professor Richard Lindzen admitted. “The opportunities for taxation, for policies, for control, for crony capitalism are just immense, you can see their eyes bulge.” 
 
 Nothing was proven by the drought and nothing disproven by the Thunderstorm
 
 With that said, it was pointed out many years ago by climate change scientists that climate extremes such as droughts, dangerous weather patterns, heavy snow storms, extremes in general were all part of the changing climate associated with global warming.
 
 So when I read that article I think, wow, they're ironically making their point for them and too dumb to realize itComment
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	muldoonSBR MVP- 01-04-10
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 #21Prison Planet - AKA Alex Jones. The same guy who spent the late 90's going ape on his show about how the government can control the weather.Comment
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	DwightShruteSBR Aristocracy- 01-17-09
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 #22I never wrote it, only for you to read.Originally posted by The KrakenWhat a nonsensical article 
 
 Nothing was proven by the drought and nothing disproven by the Thunderstorm
 
 With that said, it was pointed out many years ago by climate change scientists that climate extremes such as droughts, dangerous weather patterns, heavy snow storms, extremes in general were all part of the changing climate associated with global warming.
 
 So when I read that article I think, wow, they're ironically making their point for them and too dumb to realize it
 
 Global warming has always existed. So has global cooling. That is what I believe as do many other people much smarter than me.
 
 If man made global warming does actually exist, I think its fair to say that 100% of scientists etc would agree. That clearly isn't the case.Comment
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	muldoonSBR MVP- 01-04-10
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 #23There are scientists who believe the pyramids are 40,000 years or older than the consensus. Scientists who believe no planes hit the towers. Scientists who believe we've never put a man on the moon. Scientists who believe Sandy Hook was staged.Originally posted by DwightShrute
 If man made global warming does actually exist, I think its fair to say that 100% of scientists etc would agree. That clearly isn't the case.Comment
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	brooks85SBR Aristocracy- 01-05-09
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 #24very true, finest example is there are people who actually believe in man-made global warming. A small % fan the flames, can't call them dumb but calculated works, and profit while the rest of the morons actually believe them.Originally posted by muldoonThere are scientists who believe the pyramids are 40,000 years or older than the consensus. Scientists who believe no planes hit the towers. Scientists who believe we've never put a man on the moon. Scientists who believe Sandy Hook was staged.Comment
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	muldoonSBR MVP- 01-04-10
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 #25Actually, when you see how something like the dust bowl directly affected climate, I'd say it's not the finest example (since man played a big role in that)Originally posted by brooks85very true, finest example is there are people who actually believe in man-made global warming.
 
 From Jade Helm to FEMA camps, there are better examples of how one or two loud voices get many to follow.
 
 Truth is, if the prepper community (ie: Alex Jones et al) embraced Climate Change, and the Al Gore's of the world were opposed to it, the usual suspects would be yelling about it from the roof tops.Comment
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	 recon1SBR MVP recon1SBR MVP- 08-13-12
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 #26No credible evidence has been produced to back up the New World Order Lucifarians BS, but in fact plenty of evidence exist that PROVES the world revolves in cycles, always has and always will.
 
 Let's not forget "climate-gate" This truthful document spells it all out. People needed to be criminally charged after purposely manipulating data to back the real hidden agenda. We will not get a criminal indictment, but we can read the proof so, we don't become brainwashed windbags.
 
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	itchypickleSBR Posting Legend- 11-05-09
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 #27I just get weary seeing all these 'scientists' in third world nations for the UN reports who end up having gains to make by saying one thing in their reports and the little community that they are linked with. Especially with all that has come out about data manipulation and 'oops we calculated xyz wrong' models. And lets be clear....no matter which side you come down on ideologically....anyone who gets 114 reports proven inaccurate and only 5 that turned out correct....do we REALLY want to put faith in them? I wouldn't.Comment
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	DwightShruteSBR Aristocracy- 01-17-09
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 #28Originally posted by recon1No credible evidence has been produced to back up the New World Order Lucifarians BS, but in fact plenty of evidence exist that PROVES the world revolves in cycles, always has and always will.
 
 Let's not forget "climate-gate" This truthful document spells it all out. People needed to be criminally charged after purposely manipulating data to back the real hidden agenda. We will not get a criminal indictment, but we can read the proof so, we don't become brainwashed windbags.
 
 http://climategate.nl/wp-content/upl...te-Scandal.pdfOriginally posted by itchypickleI just get weary seeing all these 'scientists' in third world nations for the UN reports who end up having gains to make by saying one thing in their reports and the little community that they are linked with. Especially with all that has come out about data manipulation and 'oops we calculated xyz wrong' models. And lets be clear....no matter which side you come down on ideologically....anyone who gets 114 reports proven inaccurate and only 5 that turned out correct....do we REALLY want to put faith in them? I wouldn't. Comment Comment
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	The KrakenBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 12-25-11
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 #29And let me guess, you also deny fracking is harmfulOriginally posted by recon1No credible evidence has been produced to back up the New World Order Lucifarians BS, but in fact plenty of evidence exist that PROVES the world revolves in cycles, always has and always will.
 
 Let's not forget "climate-gate" This truthful document spells it all out. People needed to be criminally charged after purposely manipulating data to back the real hidden agenda. We will not get a criminal indictment, but we can read the proof so, we don't become brainwashed windbags.
 
 http://climategate.nl/wp-content/upl...te-Scandal.pdfComment
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	The KrakenBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 12-25-11
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 #30Don't be biased, scientists on both sides have gains to be made. I find it interesting a commonly employed tactic used by anti-climate change people is to go after the global warming scientists and bring up how much money they are making. Well this goes Both ways. I know first hand that Chesapeake and Devon are paying their "scientists" very well to manipulate data in their favor on a broad spectrum of issues including climate change and fracking.Originally posted by itchypickleI just get weary seeing all these 'scientists' in third world nations for the UN reports who end up having gains to make by saying one thing in their reports and the little community that they are linked with. Especially with all that has come out about data manipulation and 'oops we calculated xyz wrong' models. And lets be clear....no matter which side you come down on ideologically....anyone who gets 114 reports proven inaccurate and only 5 that turned out correct....do we REALLY want to put faith in them? I wouldn't.
 
 I know a guy that consults for them and said the studies on fracking are horrible but easy to manipulate by changing inclusing or exclusion criteria to fit whatever conclusion their bosses desire.
 
 This is common practice, I'm not doubting it happens on both sides.
 
 To me, this is the most disgusting part.
 
 So in the end, am I any better informed than you Or vice versa if we're both using manipulated studies?Comment
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	DwightShruteSBR Aristocracy- 01-17-09
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 #31do you think you have to be against both or neither?Originally posted by The KrakenAnd let me guess, you also deny fracking is harmfulComment
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	The KrakenBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 12-25-11
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 #32No, most certainly not. But a lot of people suffer from party thinkOriginally posted by DwightShrutedo you think you have to be against both or neither?
 
 But a lot of people are predictable. Recnd being one of them. It was a hypothetical question as I already knew the answer.Comment
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	Andy117SBR Hall of Famer- 02-07-10
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 #33You can't get 100% of any group to agree on anything.Originally posted by DwightShruteI never wrote it, only for you to read.
 
 Global warming has always existed. So has global cooling. That is what I believe as do many other people much smarter than me.
 
 If man made global warming does actually exist, I think its fair to say that 100% of scientists etc would agree. That clearly isn't the case.Comment
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	DwightShruteSBR Aristocracy- 01-17-09
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 #342+2 = 4Originally posted by Andy117You can't get 100% of any group to agree on anything.
 
 I think we can all agreeComment
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	itchypickleSBR Posting Legend- 11-05-09
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 #35Ask a 5th grader in a public school. You might be surprisedOriginally posted by DwightShrute2+2 = 4
 
 I think we can all agree Comment Comment
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