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  • matt1216
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-27-11
    • 14683

    #281
    If I feel certain matches deserve the chalk, it's gotta happen.... With R-H style, and grit I know he will try here... I tried the 2-0 with Dancevic when I wanted to pound the ML and it failed miserably
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    • JC1186
      SBR MVP
      • 02-21-14
      • 1070

      #282
      Originally posted by matt1216
      If I feel certain matches deserve the chalk, it's gotta happen.... With R-H style, and grit I know he will try here... I tried the 2-0 with Dancevic when I wanted to pound the ML and it failed miserably
      Matt one thing I've thought many times with you but never voiced it, is that I don't think you respect your stake anywhere nearly as much as you need to.

      It's almost as though you don't factor that into the equation.

      Stick a unit on a ML at 1.42 and your return is 1.42 units.

      Stick that same unit instead on 2-0 @ 2.10 and lose, and you're left with nothing.

      The difference right there is 1.42 units. Sure you only win 0.42 units, but you get to keep your stake. Something MANY inexperienced punters over look.

      Even if the 2-0 set bet won, you would only be 0.68 units betters.

      Also in your case, if you mostly play +/- games won and unders/overs @ 1.90ish odds, it's difficult to really be successful.

      Why? Because you're throwing away your stake way too often. That's reality.

      You're much better of taking those 1.42 favourites when you feel very confident in them, and not losing the bet.
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      • felix_felicus7
        SBR High Roller
        • 04-19-13
        • 175

        #283
        "You're much better of taking those 1.42 favourites when you feel very confident in them, and not losing the bet."

        Was Frank a 70/30% proposition here?? The fact that it went 3 sets & he still faced 5 break pts in the 3rd suggest not to me. When you actually lose that chalky ml bet, it takes another 3 wins like it to get it back. The books are content with that, cause the soon enough its chase time.
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        • JC1186
          SBR MVP
          • 02-21-14
          • 1070

          #284
          Originally posted by felix_felicus7
          "You're much better of taking those 1.42 favourites when you feel very confident in them, and not losing the bet."

          Was Frank a 70/30% proposition here?? The fact that it went 3 sets & he still faced 5 break pts in the 3rd suggest not to me. When you actually lose that chalky ml bet, it takes another 3 wins like it to get it back. The books are content with that, cause the soon enough its chase time.
          It may not work for you felix, but if you're good enough at tennis and bet big money, it works. Keep in mind everyone's different with respect to their tennis knowledge and mental discipline (selectiveness mostly), but that definitely works for me with the bigger bets. If I'm putting a lot down, I'm looking at winning and keeping my stake.

          Now I'm not saying always go for low odds. Far from it. I've proven that's not my style.

          I'm just making a point that one should value their stake. Many look at the potential winnings and forget that if the bet wins, no matter what the odds, you keep your stake too.

          It seems like I'm pointing out the obvious, but in my experience with chatting to others, it's something many show ignorance to.

          *Edit. And I'm not sure about the Dancevic bet. He's a lower ranked player that I tend not to bet on. He can be pretty erratic after all.

          Though my point was that many go for set betting instead of taking the lower odds.

          However in the example I detailed above you're essentially risking 1.42 units (ML winning vs. losing) to win an extra 0.68 units if they win 2-0.

          Is that worth it?

          For the most part, imo, no.
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          • matt1216
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 10-27-11
            • 14683

            #285
            I Respect both of your Views.... I agree with JC on the fact that if you are patient and hammer those Favorites of 1.42ish-1.70 you will have no problem building a bankroll...... With that being said, it's a lowe percentage of people that can actually succeed.... When I had my outstanding tennis season, this is what i did^^^^ I took favorites 1.60ish-1.80ish ... Some dogs and killed it. For whatever reason I veered from my dicipline... Over the past few days I've been considerably more dicipline with my picks... And I will continue to do so with winners.
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            • matt1216
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 10-27-11
              • 14683

              #286
              lets go Ramirez!
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              • matt1216
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 10-27-11
                • 14683

                #287
                Pospisil ML 1.72 x 1.5 units

                Vinci ML 2.75 x 1 unit
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                • sluggy1616
                  SBR MVP
                  • 07-21-13
                  • 1317

                  #288
                  Originally posted by matt1216
                  Pospisil ML 1.72 x 1.5 units

                  Vinci ML 2.75 x 1 unit
                  nice popsicle
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                  • matt1216
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 10-27-11
                    • 14683

                    #289
                    Thanks, thankfully B e t 888 pays out retirements.
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                    • matt1216
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 10-27-11
                      • 14683

                      #290
                      ​Rogers ML 2.50 x 1 unit
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                      • makman
                        SBR MVP
                        • 10-31-10
                        • 1019

                        #291
                        Originally posted by matt1216
                        Thanks, thankfully B e t 888 pays out retirements.
                        You are very lucky to have that one there, while the others are in bet365. Bet 365 would make it void.
                        And the correct name is not bet888, It is 888sport ...
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                        • matt1216
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 10-27-11
                          • 14683

                          #292
                          No, all my wagers were at Sport888 thus far.

                          L.Davis 1.72 x 1.5 units b e t 365
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                          • matt1216
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 10-27-11
                            • 14683

                            #293
                            ​Roger Vasseline 1st set 2.20 x 1.25 units
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                            • matt1216
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 10-27-11
                              • 14683

                              #294
                              Andujar ML 2.37 x 1 unit

                              Estrella ML 1.72 x 1.25 units


                              B E T 365
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                              • matt1216
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 10-27-11
                                • 14683

                                #295
                                62-72 -33.91

                                Last 10 7-3 +7.05

                                * 2 above plays pending
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                                • matt1216
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 10-27-11
                                  • 14683

                                  #296
                                  ​Krajinovic ML 1.72 x 1.25 units
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                                  • matt1216
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 10-27-11
                                    • 14683

                                    #297
                                    ​Bellucci ML 2.75 x 1 unit
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                                    • fitguy67
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 03-13-11
                                      • 5082

                                      #298
                                      Originally posted by matt1216
                                      62-72 -33.91

                                      Last 10 7-3 +7.05

                                      * 2 above plays pending
                                      wtf, u goin' tout?

                                      if u'r gonna update...update SLFU (since last friggin' update)...)

                                      you can't just cherry pick how you bundle 'em up for presentation...we're u'r fellow net-heads, not customers (a little minus-sign before the units ain't gonna kill us)...so go back to your last proper update and do a full "warts & all" report...and save the "rose colored glasses" crap for the touts
                                      __________

                                      go back and look at your old NHL threads...and even early tennis threads...
                                      you know the ones with a finite number of plays and reasonably-regular updates...(and plus-units too...hmmm, think maybe there might be a connection?)


                                      yes, it seems like a long time ago..but there really was a time before you became a scatter-brained action-junkie
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                                      • matt1216
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 10-27-11
                                        • 14683

                                        #299
                                        Well, that was rock bottom today. Time to turn it all around
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                                        • fitguy67
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 03-13-11
                                          • 5082

                                          #300
                                          just slow your roll matt, take a look at girlscoutcookies', and eaglesphan's successful threads...they post a few well thought-out plays once in a while with no wild swings in bet-sizes, and they update regularly (not just when they win)

                                          same as how you used to run your NHL thread, right...no "seat of the pants" last-minute plays with obviously revenge-driven bet-sizes...

                                          the more plays u put out, the less time you have to evaluate each...

                                          be more selective = post fewer (but more carefully considered) plays...

                                          good luck pal
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                                          • matt1216
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 10-27-11
                                            • 14683

                                            #301
                                            ​Clezar ML 2.25 x 1 unit
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                                            • matt1216
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 10-27-11
                                              • 14683

                                              #302
                                              Thanks Fitguy^^^ I was distracted a lot today... Tomorrow, not so much
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                                              • matt1216
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 10-27-11
                                                • 14683

                                                #303
                                                ​Samper-Montana ML 2.50 x .75 units
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                                                • matt1216
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 10-27-11
                                                  • 14683

                                                  #304
                                                  ​Vinci ML 1.90 x 1.25 units
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                                                  • matt1216
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 10-27-11
                                                    • 14683

                                                    #305
                                                    Duckworth +3.5 Games 2.00 x 1 unit
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                                                    • matt1216
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 10-27-11
                                                      • 14683

                                                      #306
                                                      ​R. Vasseline ML 2.35 x 1 unit 888 sport
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                                                      • matt1216
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 10-27-11
                                                        • 14683

                                                        #307
                                                        ​Karantencheva ML 2.32 x 1 unit 888 Sport
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                                                        • matt1216
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 10-27-11
                                                          • 14683

                                                          #308
                                                          ​Ferro ML 2.80 x 1 unit
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                                                          • makman
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 10-31-10
                                                            • 1019

                                                            #309
                                                            Originally posted by matt1216
                                                            ​Ferro ML 2.80 x 1 unit
                                                            Who is Ferro ?
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                                                            • matt1216
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 10-27-11
                                                              • 14683

                                                              #310
                                                              Originally posted by makman
                                                              Who is Ferro ?
                                                              Some 18 year old ITF chick
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                                                              • matt1216
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 10-27-11
                                                                • 14683

                                                                #311
                                                                Originally posted by matt1216
                                                                ​Ferro ML 2.80 x 1 unit
                                                                Nice to finally awake up to a win
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                                                                • matt1216
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 10-27-11
                                                                  • 14683

                                                                  #312
                                                                  Chardy/Young Over 22.5 Games 1.82 x 1 unit

                                                                  * Young looked good at times vs Busta, but I expect Chardys servevto win him a lot of points as well. Young could pull this out/should pull this out but I'm not 100% sold.

                                                                  Dogopolov/Giraldo Under 21.5 Games 1.84 x 2 units

                                                                  Dogo is in solid form here. He made a deep run here last year. The pace plays in his favor. He made a decent looking Dancevic(who played well) look silly at times.
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                                                                  • matt1216
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 10-27-11
                                                                    • 14683

                                                                    #313
                                                                    Dmitrov -2.5 Games 1.80 x 1.5 units


                                                                    I like Kyrgios on faster courts as Dmitrov IMO will be more patient in the rallies
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                                                                    • matt1216
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 10-27-11
                                                                      • 14683

                                                                      #314
                                                                      ​Pliskova ML 2.14 x 1.25 units
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                                                                      • matt1216
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 10-27-11
                                                                        • 14683

                                                                        #315
                                                                        ​S.Johnson ML 2.06 x 2 units
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