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  • bobbywaves
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 05-06-08
    • 13280

    #106
    Originally posted by BEANTOWNJIM
    BOBBY YOUR BROTHER IN LAW JON IS A SWELL GUY TO PAY YOU 15 DIMES THE LAST 3 MONTHS

    LETS CUT THE BULLSHIT BOBBY IF YOU BEAT JON FOR 15 GRAND YOU WOULD BE SHOWN THE DOOR OR HAVE YOUR LIMITS CUT IN HALF LETS NOT MAKE UP STORIES BOBBY BOY.

    SO BOBBY IS JON ACCEPTED BY THE REST OF YOUR FAMILY OR IS HE CONSIDERED A RAT BASTARD WHO JIPS PEOPLE OUT OF BONUS MONEY
    I have no reason to lie & sure don't need to pove anything to a chump like you. I've spoken with Jon, he knows who I am & has my account #. So Jon could easily call me out if what I said was untrue. But you want to continue bitching about a 15% FP that you screwed up, & Jon is still nice enough to reach out to your punk ass. Get a life.
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    • DoubleRedDragon
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 11-18-11
      • 975

      #107
      been waiting for an hour and my plays haven't cashed and they aren't answering any customer service lines and it's only 7:45 pacific.... ugh

      back to 5dimes i go
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      • BEANTOWNJIM
        SBR MVP
        • 08-12-05
        • 4610

        #108
        BOBBY JON KNOWS WHO YOU ARE WOW THAT MUST MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE A BIG SHOT HUH KID

        GET A F-CKING LIFE YOU IDIOT JON DOESNT WANT TO SEE ONE PERSON IN ANY FORUM MAKE MONEY AT HIS SPORTSBOOK ALL HE WANTS IS LOSERS SO DONT COME ACROSS LIKE JON IS AN HONARABLE GUY OR SAINT JON.

        JON WOULD F-CK YOU UP THE ARSE FIRST CHANCE HE GOT LIKE HE DID TO ME

        YOU ADVERTISE 15% CASH BONUS WITH A 3X ROLLOVER THEN YOU RENEG ON IT F-CK OFF JON IS A GOOD GUY HE'S A PIECE OF SHIT LIKE ALL THE OTHER SPORTSBOOK OWNERS.I STILL HAVE THE E-MAIL THAT NICK WALTERS SENT ME WITH THE 15% CASH BONUS WITH A 3X ROLLOVER BUT THAT WENT OUT THE DOOR WHEN JON LIED ABOUT ME PLACING A BET BEFORE THE BONUS KICKED IN.I HAVE IT IN WRITING ON THE FORUM THREAD

        SEE HOW YOUR FRIEND JON TREATS YOU BOBBY WHEN THEY CLOSE SHOP AND CHANGE NAMES AND OPEN A NEW SPORTSBOOK.
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        • robmpink
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-09-07
          • 13205

          #109
          Originally posted by DoubleRedDragon
          been waiting for an hour and my plays haven't cashed and they aren't answering any customer service lines and it's only 7:45 pacific.... ugh

          back to 5dimes i go

          Quick thought. Did you try to call the wagering line and ask a wagering clerk since it is a bet? No reason for customer service to be there since all major sports are done for the night. Call wagering. BI is usually quick to grade first 5 innings, etc. If not, call wagering and they will do it for you.
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          • DoubleRedDragon
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 11-18-11
            • 975

            #110
            Every single line is down... says they're closed. Wagering line, customer service line, live chat.
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            • DoubleRedDragon
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 11-18-11
              • 975

              #111
              I blame beantown jim maybe they had enough and ran with our money :P
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              • DoubleRedDragon
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 11-18-11
                • 975

                #112
                Okay after about over an hour they graded my wager... it was Pirates and Braves. maybe they went to dinner. Weird!
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                • jazzyj7
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 03-02-09
                  • 859

                  #113
                  "they have always been first class w/ me, even when the issue was caused by me."

                  Exactly. I had a freeplay from when BI's site went down,(most shops wouldn't give out freeplays for that reason by the way.) Anyhow, I didnt read the freeplay rules and breached one of the rules. I PM'd jon asking if he could take away my freeplay winnings and just reinstate my fp because I breached one of the rules. He PM's me a quick response, saying, just keep the winnings and I'll add a one time rollover. This is how a first class book responds. I didn't have too jump through hoops, and I was more than fairly compensated even though the mistake was on me. If the same thing happened at a dif. book I can't imagine the hoops I would have to jump through.
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                  • DoubleRedDragon
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 11-18-11
                    • 975

                    #114
                    right on. I'm an ex-poker player... after all that went down in poker I'm completely shell shocked and quick to jump to conclusions.

                    Just was weird that all lines were down with no explanation during an important NBA game.
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                    • evo34
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-09-08
                      • 1032

                      #115
                      The whole, "hey, we just moved into a new 'wagering facility' and thus magically erased all reduced juice lines and baseball dime lines, but will re-instate it only if someone contacts us and demands it" is complete and utter BS. I hope people at least realize that much. If you want to trust you money with a guy who lies like that, go for it..
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                      • BEANTOWNJIM
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-12-05
                        • 4610

                        #116
                        YOUR RIGHT EVO WHY SHOULD YOU GO BEGGING ON YOUR HANDS AND KNEES FOR A BONUS WHY DO YOU HAVE TO TALK TO JON PERSONALLY WHY ISNT IT JUST ADDED TO YOUR ACCOUNT LIKE ALL LEGIT SPORTSBOOKS.

                        JON IS A LIER BOYS AND IF YOU TRUST THIS USED CAR SALESMAN GOOD LUCK TO YOU

                        ALL YOUR PERKS ARE GOING TO START DISAPPEARING HE WANTS TO GO INVITE ONLY SO HE CAN MANIPULATE THE SUCKERS AND THEY HAVE NOWHERE TO GO TO COMPLAIN.SBR JOHN WONT DO SHIT FOR YOU BECAUSE BET ISLANDS WILL NO LONGER BE PAYING ADVERTISING MONEY

                        SEE WHO YOU COMPLAIN TO WHEN BET ISLANDS GOES INVITE ONLY
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                        • Strider
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 06-02-12
                          • 108

                          #117
                          btj, give it a rest. you are like a turd that wont flush
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                          • kaliboyz
                            SBR MVP
                            • 10-30-09
                            • 3121

                            #118
                            after read all these posts, i think 50/50 .
                            BTJ: if they didn't give you the 15% bonus then just withdraw and walk away to a new book, why trashing? after read all your posts i can see that all your statements are not meant to warn people but you want nobody else to plays at this book ever again. My question is why? why you hate BI that much? it gotta be something else...because of what Jon said? Because of what Nick said? Or Mia said? or because you lost all your $$ that you deposited and now you want to fight for that 15% bonus and turn that bonus into 5K ? i think you know that BI pays and pays quicker that's why you tried to collect that bonus and continue to play there but they didn't honor the bonus so that make you mad ,huh? If you already think (or experienced from all other books) that BI took away their perks and going invite only then they'll bankrupt then why you still deposited at the beginning? (i believe Jon announced his book going invites only a long time ago). So all your experiences are just "guessing", maybe happens maybe not. But this case is not clear so i just want to say thanks to you for alerting us about our money is not safe and thank you for practicing your freedom of speech.

                            Bet Islands (Jon): i know your book pays quick. You gave out to alot of people on here many bonuses (included me) because you want to keep us so that's why you made a deal with anybody on any different circumstances and you never want to lose us, but why losing BTJ for only 15% of $800, why? because your book low on cash? you offered alot of good stuffs when we join, now all of them starting disappear,why? you got beat bad and low on cash? About Mia, Jon please have a final written for this girl. I never have an issue with BI but Mia's mistake that caused the trust between me and BI 2-3 weeks ago, i didn't say anything on this forum because i just want to deal with it myself but since this thread started then i just want to tell you so you can talk to her and make sure she knows what she's doing. Asked for payout not too long ago, she answered the phone and told me everything will be ready in several hours, called back 6 hours later funds still in my account and didn't send the money yet (Ashley's excuse was "MIA forgot" but i get paid the same night just only one thing is lower amount than i requested). A week later i asked for another pay out and Mia sent me 2 emails, first one was a payout info belong to some other player in NJ (with the dude name and control number too) by mistake. If you keep continue to run your business shady like this, no one will plays at your book anymore, Jon! To be honest , now i can only trust your book with maximum 2K. Another question for you: If your book is not going to be bankrupt then why you keep defense on this thread? if you're a healthy book then you dont need to explain to BTJ or anybody else, they'll see with their own eyes. Prove to us that you're a healthy book Jon!! you know how? bring back all the perks or admit that your business is in danger! but currently your book is still a top 10, thanks for quick pay out and free payout and thanks for good customer service and thanks for you too for being on here to help us with all the questions and issues.

                            Or maybe one of your customer rep lied to you about BTJ's issue or you didn't want honor BTJ's bonus because of his attitude.

                            I think in this case is caused by bad customer service + BTJ attitude = this thread.
                            Last edited by kaliboyz; 06-08-12, 12:05 AM.
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                            • marcojuiceman
                              SBR MVP
                              • 05-25-11
                              • 2870

                              #119
                              Originally posted by evo34
                              The whole, "hey, we just moved into a new 'wagering facility' and thus magically erased all reduced juice lines and baseball dime lines, but will re-instate it only if someone contacts us and demands it" is complete and utter BS. I hope people at least realize that much. If you want to trust you money with a guy who lies like that, go for it..
                              My point exactly Excuse after Fukking Excuse.. I thought SBR just took a tour of this facility a while back moving already WOW!!
                              Also What other Sites Do BI OWNS you guys never answered that question... Man UP
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                              • BEANTOWNJIM
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-12-05
                                • 4610

                                #120
                                Jon doesnt answer a lot of questions unless its behind closed doors nothing is upfront.

                                Kali my problem with bet islands is i got all kinds of phone calls from nick walters and e-mails stating i havent deposited in a while and they were running some great bonuses we can give you 15% with a 3x rollover thats just what i was looking for.i started a thread in the main forum about bet islands not offering me shit and mia the clerk never offered any bonus so i announced i was going to bet 605 to make 550 on the spurs going over the total.that game won so then jon comes into the forum and says since i won my first bet you can no longer get any bonus on your deposit.jon made it look like i was the one trying to rip him off i have it all in writing i started the thread way before i made my first bet so bet islands is full of shit.

                                Now its the principal of the matter i dont like being thought of as a bonus chasing punk and jon and bet islands who were wrong making my name out to be a shot taker.they took the shot not me

                                i could tell by jons attitude that bet islands was a mickey mouse book most legit books would have said what the f-ck is 15% heres 20% sorry about the confusion but when jon called me a shot taker in certain words that pisses me off.

                                Bet islands made the mistake and didnt correct it i did nothing wrong but send these crooks 800 dollars.jon didnt even have the decency to apologize to me instead he tried to blame it on me total classless move on his part.

                                The sportsbooks that have to continuosly tell you that they pay are always the ones that dont in the end (buyer beware)

                                cascade sportsbook we pay fast
                                bet first class we pay fast
                                camelot we pay fast
                                panama we pay fast

                                so lets see how much longer bet islands will pay and how fast (buyer beware)
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                                • HedgeHog
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 09-11-07
                                  • 10128

                                  #121
                                  Yet you won't take a few minutes to file a complaint with SBR--which speaks volumes as to the merits of your case. Sponsor books are quite receptive to SBR complaints--just look how quickly BOL reponds every time (this Book is the one you should be saying "Buyer Beware"). File a complaint so that BI can freely respond to your allegations or give it a rest.
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                                  • BEANTOWNJIM
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 08-12-05
                                    • 4610

                                    #122
                                    I DONT HAVE TIME FOR KIDS GAMES FILE A COMPLAINT I JUST POINT OUT THE FACTS I AM VERY HAPPY I AM BACK AT HERITAGE AND I BET THE ST. LOUIS CARDINALS LAST NIGHT TO MAKE 600 DOLLARS

                                    I GRIN WHEN I WIN

                                    ALL I WANTED WAS AN APOLOGY FROM THIS AROGANT F-CK JON AT BET ISLANDS IT WAS HIS STAFF THAT F-CKED UP NOT ME I DONT LIKE BEING TREATED LIKE SOME DEADBEAT THAT JUST WALKED OFF THE STREET BET ISLANDS IS THE ONE IN QUESTION NOT BEANTOWNJIM
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                                    • HedgeHog
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 09-11-07
                                      • 10128

                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by BEANTOWNJIM
                                      I DONT HAVE TIME FOR KIDS GAMES FILE A COMPLAINT

                                      I DONT LIKE BEING TREATED LIKE SOME DEADBEAT THAT JUST WALKED OFF THE STREET BET ISLANDS IS THE ONE IN QUESTION NOT BEANTOWNJIM
                                      A $120 FP is a kid's game? I'd want SBR getting it for me if I was in the right. The fact that you won't file a complaint against BI does make everyone question you.
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                                      • Easy-Rider 66
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 02-14-12
                                        • 36100

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by BEANTOWNJIM
                                        I DONT HAVE TIME FOR KIDS GAMES FILE A COMPLAINT I JUST POINT OUT THE FACTS I AM VERY HAPPY I AM BACK AT HERITAGE AND I BET THE ST. LOUIS CARDINALS LAST NIGHT TO MAKE 600 DOLLARS

                                        I GRIN WHEN I WIN

                                        ALL I WANTED WAS AN APOLOGY FROM THIS AROGANT F-CK JON AT BET ISLANDS IT WAS HIS STAFF THAT F-CKED UP NOT ME I DONT LIKE BEING TREATED LIKE SOME DEADBEAT THAT JUST WALKED OFF THE STREET BET ISLANDS IS THE ONE IN QUESTION NOT BEANTOWNJIM
                                        You write well and have completely made your point that BI is a shady shop. Many would disagree, and enjoy playing there. Certain you have accomplished your goal of keeping some people from posting up there. How about Game 7.
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                                        • pensfan1919
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 04-08-12
                                          • 120

                                          #125
                                          All of the recent changes do raise red flags-I will say that.

                                          BetIslands needs to reinstate the dimeline that they advertised for baseball season. Otherwise, they lose a lot of credibility in my eyes(and many others eyes I'm sure).
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                                          • wtt0315
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-18-07
                                            • 8037

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by BEANTOWNJIM;14997928[B
                                            ]I DONT HAVE TIME FOR KIDS GAMES FILE A COMPLAINT [/B]I JUST POINT OUT THE FACTS I AM VERY HAPPY I AM BACK AT HERITAGE AND I BET THE ST. LOUIS CARDINALS LAST NIGHT TO MAKE 600 DOLLARS

                                            I GRIN WHEN I WIN

                                            ALL I WANTED WAS AN APOLOGY FROM THIS AROGANT F-CK JON AT BET ISLANDS IT WAS HIS STAFF THAT F-CKED UP NOT ME I DONT LIKE BEING TREATED LIKE SOME DEADBEAT THAT JUST WALKED OFF THE STREET BET ISLANDS IS THE ONE IN QUESTION NOT BEANTOWNJIM

                                            Yet you have time to post 150 times that you were wronged.
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                                            • HedgeHog
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 09-11-07
                                              • 10128

                                              #127
                                              Does BI still do one FREE payout per month?

                                              Just wondering if this was another of the recent changes.
                                              Last edited by HedgeHog; 06-08-12, 08:10 AM.
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                                              • BEANTOWNJIM
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 08-12-05
                                                • 4610

                                                #128
                                                I HAVE TO LAUGH THEY ALWAYS LET YOU WIN AT THE VERY BEGINNING I PLAY 25 BUCKS A HAND BLACKJACK YOU MIGHT GET UP 150 DOLLARS AND YOUR STARTING TO FEEL GOOD THEN THE LOSING STARTS AND IT NEVER ENDS NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO THE DEALER IS ALWAYS DEALT A PICTURE CARD AND YOUR GETTING 14 OR 15 WITH THE BIG DECISION AND 9 OUT 10 YOUR GETTING A 10 TO BUST.

                                                I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING SO CORRUPT YET IF I GET UP A COUPLE OF DIMES I ALWAYS FIND MYSELF TAKING A SHOT AGIAN AT ONLINE BLACKJACK. ITS THE BIGGEST SUCKERS GAME IN THE WORLD
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                                                • BEANTOWNJIM
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 08-12-05
                                                  • 4610

                                                  #129
                                                  OH MAN I AM IN THE WRONG THREAD I THOUGHT THIS WAS THE ONLINE BLACKJACK THREAD SORRY BOYS CARRY ON WITH THE BREAKING DOWN OF BET ISLANDS SPORTSBOOK
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                                                  • Betislands
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 03-17-11
                                                    • 547

                                                    #130
                                                    Hi guys,

                                                    Yes we still offer one free payout a month via any method requested we will increase this in football.

                                                    This will be the 3rd time I post this in this thread BeanTownJim was contacted by us via email , and a PM sent by me as soon as I saw his post since he decided to instead of informing us creating a thread. Our customer service is one of the best out there and we do our very best for our clients.

                                                    Moving into our own wagering facility should not be cause for alarm there and the fact that we choose not to disclose our other wagering operations that have nothing to do with our post up business in order to keep them off a public forum is quite logical.

                                                    " Payouts speak louder than words " I like that business model , I let the way we pay and our financial stability speak for itself yes we have changed bonus structures but every book does I have also made sure everyone gets treated fairly and compensated correctly , people can try and twist words or create scenarios to shed a negative light on Betislands but in the end nobody can deny any of the facts I have stated above.

                                                    Cheers,

                                                    Jon
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                                                    • robmpink
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 01-09-07
                                                      • 13205

                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by Betislands
                                                      Hi guys,

                                                      Yes we still offer one free payout a month via any method requested we will increase this in football.

                                                      This will be the 3rd time I post this in this thread BeanTownJim was contacted by us via email , and a PM sent by me as soon as I saw his post since he decided to instead of informing us creating a thread. Our customer service is one of the best out there and we do our very best for our clients.

                                                      Moving into our own wagering facility should not be cause for alarm there and the fact that we choose not to disclose our other wagering operations that have nothing to do with our post up business in order to keep them off a public forum is quite logical.

                                                      " Payouts speak louder than words " I like that business model , I let the way we pay and our financial stability speak for itself yes we have changed bonus structures but every book does I have also made sure everyone gets treated fairly and compensated correctly , people can try and twist words or create scenarios to shed a negative light on Betislands but in the end nobody can deny any of the facts I have stated above.

                                                      Cheers,

                                                      Jon


                                                      No, it is the best out there!
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                                                      • DoubleRedDragon
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 11-18-11
                                                        • 975

                                                        #132
                                                        I'm satisfied with the site. Dimeline or no dimeline just nice to have a solid book and they've offered some amazing bonuses.

                                                        I do recommend this book and their customer service is good.

                                                        It's their choice whether to offer a dimeline or not I guess. They offer a free payout and I'm sure they'll offer another if you've already used it due to the dimeline issue.

                                                        I do recommend this book.

                                                        I'm sorry BTJ but I don't trust anyone who is talking about how they can't help their online blackjack compulsions. The software is blatantly rigged and BetIsland even self-banned me from the casino after I asked.

                                                        You've gone too far and now I have to speak up and say that this is a good book and I hope they get more business.
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                                                        • bobbywaves
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 05-06-08
                                                          • 13280

                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                                          Does BI still do one FREE payout per month?

                                                          Just wondering if this was another of the recent changes.

                                                          Yes, received free payouts the last 3 months.
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                                                          • HedgeHog
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 09-11-07
                                                            • 10128

                                                            #134
                                                            Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                                            Yes, received free payouts the last 3 months.
                                                            TY and great to hear. I didn't see it mentioned at the BI website and thought it may have been eliminated.
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                                                            • BEANTOWNJIM
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 08-12-05
                                                              • 4610

                                                              #135
                                                              I GUESS THIS SHOULDNT BOTHER YOU GUYS THAT JON CHANGED HIS LINES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT

                                                              DID YOU SEE THIS TONIGHT

                                                              ANGELS -150
                                                              ROCKIES +135

                                                              THAT DOESNT LOOK LIKE A DIME LINE TO ME AGAIN FALSE ADVERTISING

                                                              JON THAT NEW BUILDING MUST BE COSTING YOU A LOT OF MONEY IF YOUR SKIMPING OUT ON BONUSES AND DIME LINES FALSE ADVERTISING
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                                                              • taxer
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 05-31-11
                                                                • 630

                                                                #136
                                                                SBR should really do something about posters with agendas trying to bring down sportsbooks just out of a case of sour grapes , if this were a Betonline thread there would be 10 posts by SBR saving grace and their 4-5 week payouts
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                                                                • BEANTOWNJIM
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 08-12-05
                                                                  • 4610

                                                                  #137
                                                                  I DONT DEAL IN SOUR GRAPES I DEAL IN FACTS TAXER

                                                                  I DONT LIKE SPORTSBOOKS CHANGING THERE RULES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND LYING ABOUT MY REPUTATION IN A PUBLIC FORUM AFTER THEY RENEGED ON A BONUS OFFER.

                                                                  MICKEY MOUSE MOVES LIKE THIS LEAD TO PROBLEMS DOWN THE ROAD.

                                                                  I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT BOOKS JON HAS THAT ISNT POST UP I GAURENTEE YOU HE IS PROBABLY INVOLVED WITH LENNY FROM CASCADE SPORTSBOOK
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                                                                  • BEANTOWNJIM
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 08-12-05
                                                                    • 4610

                                                                    #138
                                                                    WHAT CREDIT BOOKS DOES JON OWN DOES ANYBODY KNOW PROBABLY CASCADE AND BET PHOENIX

                                                                    SUER HE IS PAYING QUICKLY TO THE POST UP GUYS BUT WHAT ABOUT HIS CREDIT PLAYERS THIS WOULD BE INTERESTING TO FIND OUT.HE PROBABLY TREATS THEM LIKE SHIT BECAUSE WHO ARE THEY GOING TO GO RUNNING TO IF THEY HAVE A PROBLEM

                                                                    JUST WAIT UNTIL BET ISLANDS GOES INVITE ONLY THATS AN INVITATION TO SLOW PAY OR NO PAY WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT YOU CANT COMPLAIN TO SBR ANYMORE THEY WONT ADVERTISE HERE ANYMORE
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                                                                    • bobbywaves
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 05-06-08
                                                                      • 13280

                                                                      #139
                                                                      BTJ, count how many posts you've made in this thread stating the same things over & over again. You're a broken record, gets old quick. Jon said he reached out to you, but you still prefer to be a hater. Your constant typing in CAPS only further demonstrates how obnoxious & ignorant you truly are.
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                                                                      • edawg
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 07-09-11
                                                                        • 2820

                                                                        #140
                                                                        BTJ I like how you don't take any guff but calling a quality shop like BI thieves is going overboard IMAO. Reminds me of Emily Hayes rants on Heritage. Not all your points or Emily's are baseless but these are two of the better shops out there especially for U.S. players. If you don't like a certain book by all means play elsewhere and tell fellow posters why, but the only major complaint against books is not paying on time. This being said best of luck to you BTJ!
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