betonline issues

[5mike5]

Whats not to like they have 10 cent baseball lines, they put their lines out early the day before the games, and i have been paid promptly several times. I'm not saying they are the best option out there but just stating that I have used them for a while now without any problems. I have a decent balance remaining there and if something shady happens to me I will be on here to tell the forum all about it.

lots have 10 cent lines and even 5 cent overnight lines for baseball

difference is u actually GET PAID in DAYS., not 5-6 weeks, if that...and get hassled all the way out

not 1 advantage to playing there these days looks like to me

[cmoney17]

4 payouts with BOL and I have received them within 7 days each and every time

[justwinthisone]

We reviewed the hand history data, and have forwarded it over to the player. BetOnline is also sending it to the player directly.

• The player's balance was not disposed of in a single or few chip-dumps.
• He played against eleven other players total for approximately three hours.
• The average pot was $217.94 over 163 hands.

In closing, management corrected its initial statement that the player's IP address was the same as used the majority of the time on his account.

The play data itself is not consistent with other alleged hacking cases we've seen, but taking the player's word for him being in bed with his wife at the time, we would only be able to suggest taking a hard look at the security suggestions outlined in this newswire. BetOnline is not responsible for the balance.

OK so I have now had time to go through this hand history. It looks pretty suspect to me but I will let you guys be the judge. Oh before I start betonline has still not sent me this info I got it from Lou. Anyways they sent a form that showed hand #, what time, how much was won, and who won the pot. I first got this and looked to see who had won hands and how much they won. Here is it is.

There was a total of 10 people who won hands during this poker secession. This was at 3 different tables but 161 of the 163 were played on two tables. I didnt have too look too hard to see that one person stood out and I was not even looking at the full hand history. I was only looking at the copy and paste attachment that Lou sent me from betonline. There was one player that won over $14,000.00 in pots over 26 hands won. The amazing part about this is that this guy sat down with only $150.00 to start. You can see what he sat down with in the detailed hand history. The others players won $147.00 over 3 hands, $240.00 over 2 hands, $121.00 over 2 hands, $364.05 over 8 hands, $189.55 over 7 hands, $843.45 over 18 hands, $2,222.78 over 10 hands, $2,309.54 over 13 hands, and $4,940.10 over 10 hands. The poker player that hacked my account was involved in all of those hands. After I had this basic info I went through hand for hand through their poker software. I just needed to punch in the hand id #. From there you can punch in the hand #s and they will pop up in full detail. So I studied every single hand play for play, bet or bet. It's so obvious that the guy who won over $14,000.00 in 26 won hands was working with whoever hacked my account. My account was involved in everyhand of those 26 he won. The 64 hands prior to the $14,000.00 winner sitting down at the same table as my hacker was $38.29. The average pot size over the next 65 hands after he sat there was $385.40. Does that not seem a little weird? I counted around 14 hands of his 26 hands won that are so suspect. I mean there was one that ended up to be a $600 plus pot, my hacker played 2 3 off suite and and the $14k winner had 2 7. How does a pot get that big with those two hands. Its not like the flop helped anyone either. There were so many hands that if the two of them were communcating it would make perfect sence. So this guy sat down with $150.00 and left with $6,233.76 over 65 hands played. Like I said he had over 14k worth of winning hands in 26 hands won. The styles of poker over the 1st 65 hands played was way different than the 65 once this chip dump started. You can also see that by the average pot size over the first 65 and then the big increase once they sat at the same table. This could not be anymore obvious. This person hacks my account, played around 65 hands just for shits and giggles. His buddy gets on and the two of them work together to get around 6k. He leaves and the guy in my account plays another 34 hands and donks off the rest of my money. Betonline sent an ip they said was mine from a different state the day this happened and there is obvious suspect hands here. What do you guys think???? How many people sit down at a poker table with $150 and leave with over 6k in 65 hands. Is that not suspect? I will post some of the hands also

[justwinthisone]

I have erased the usernames until this get solved. My account is user your, the person who I believe was working with him is b, and any other names u see were innocent bystanders

so in this hand your had 6 3 and figured they would raise
b of course calls and actually catches his Ace (Flop falls A, 10, 3)
he bets 100 and your (which is the hacker) decides to call $100 with the small pair on board
the turn comes and helps no one (5)
B decides to bet 100 with his Ace and your decides to reraise for 197 with the small pair on board....
b wins $670

[justwinthisone]

i will post more hands tomorrow that are even more obvious....it will take time to erase the username and stuff bc i dont want to post that yet. its 430 am and i am tired as shit..... you guys be the judge

[justwinthisone]

here are some more hands....i also reposted that first one so u can see it better.....i will post more soon but please take a look and tell me what you think..... also if u will see there is usually only 3 sometimes 4 people at each one of these tables

my user id is your
the person i think is working with the hacker is b
all others are innocent bystanders..... or are they? who knows

4 hands will be shown in next 4 posts

[justwinthisone]

these hands are going to be posted in the order they were played or very close too it.....i love the all in and call in this next hand......

[Lo$t]

[justwinthisone]

i like the next 1 also, raise with trash preflop and then completly miss the board with the flop yet still call a $226. turn gives user your nothing but why not raise again only to fold on the river.....come on Lou you dont see any type of chip dump here. are were looking at the same thing? look at this hand in next post along with all the others.......

[Lo$t]

[Br0nxer]

why is this idiot still posting attachments when admin has disabled them

[Br0nxer]

[justwinthisone]

why is this idiot still posting attachments when admin has disabled them

U can see them when u click on the link?

[justwinthisone]

I was posting from my comp.....when I saw Bronx say they were disabled I logged in my my iPad and I still see them when I click on the link

[Lo$t]

[justwinthisone]

Lou did you get my email? Will you look into this more? I can email you the hand #s or I can email you the screen shots of these hands so you can see how obvious this was. I tried to post some of them on here but I guess there not working. I can still see them when I click on the link.

[SBR Lou]

i like the next 1 also, raise with trash preflop and then completly miss the board with the flop yet still call a $226. turn gives user your nothing but why not raise again only to fold on the river.....come on Lou you dont see any type of chip dump here. are were looking at the same thing? look at this hand in next post along with all the others.......

Honestly, no. The more you post the more it sounds like a tilted balance.

But again, it doesn't really matter what "I" think --- the industry standard is clear here. There's nothing else to be done, you are responsible for your account.

[justwinthisone]

Honestly, no. The more you post the more it sounds like a tilted balance.

But again, it doesn't really matter what "I" think --- the industry standard is clear here. There's nothing else to be done, you are responsible for your account.

That is fine I will continue to peruse this myself. Is there a reason I can not post this hand history for everyone too see? It has been deleted by you guys......

[SBR Lou]

That is fine I will continue to peruse this myself. Is there a reason I can not post this hand history for everyone too see? It has been deleted by you guys......

Google how to upload images. Nobody's deleted anything.

[justwinthisone]

can someone tell me how i can upload screenshots on here? i figured the insert image would work....

[Br0nxer]

[ZetaPsi808]

upload picture to tinyurl.com...

[justwinthisone]

ok so i am going to post this hand history is a new thread called betonline issues #2.....this one is getting cluttered and i want people to see this....go check it out and let me know what you think

[SBR Lou]

ok so i am going to post this hand history is a new thread called betonline issues #2.....this one is getting cluttered and i want people to see this....go check it out and let me know what you think

No sir; no need to obfuscate issue or SBR's conclusion. You can continue to post in this thread every day if you like.

[justwinthisone]

No sir; no need to obfuscate issue or SBR's conclusion. You can continue to post in this thread every day if you like.

out of respect to you lou i will continue to post here.....why did the thread get moved?

[marcojuiceman]

Sounds like the same crooks at Fulltilt?
BO is stealing money...

[Chuck Sims]

justwinthisone, It seems suspicious and its unfortunate. Somebody got a hold of your password. Could it be a BOL employee? If so you should be reimbursed.

You say you joined BOL because SBR recommends them. Did you not see or ignore a ton of BOL complaints that were posted on this very board?

There is one way someone could have stolen your password. A poster would post an innocent looking link that you clicked on. This opens you up to having someone steal your password.

[ThaWoj]

weird, just got this email. i dont even play with them.

Dear ~~~~~~,

In an effort to provide you with an improved poker product, the BetOnline.ag poker room will be closed for maintenance over the next few days. To help us expedite this process please log out of the poker client if you are currently logged in.
If you play poker at BetOnline and your poker account is currently funded, your money will be transferred over to your sports betting account within the next 72 hours.
Once the upgrades are completed, you will be able to transfer your funds back over to your poker account and resume playing immediately.
We apologize for any inconvenience; however, we are confident you will be pleased with the upcoming improvements.
Regards,

[jerkrap]

Did you receive back your funds within the 72 hours? I had the exact response from the representatives. I won some money last night and my balance went to $0.00 when I logged in a few hours ago.

[justwinthisone]

So if you have been following along here I have been claiming that someone has hacked my betonline account, transfered my money over to the poker account and "chip dumped" most of my money off to a friend. I had $300 already in my poker account and I had $7,500.00 in my sportsbook which got transfered into poker. I have been requesting the hand history from betonline and I just got it on saturday. I have studied every single hand and I want you all to take a look. OK here is the hand history. I have erased part of the usernames so this has a chance to get resolved. My user name at these poker hands is "your" the person that I think was working with "your" in this pump and dump is "B" you will see other players at the table but most of the time there is only 3 people sitting at the table. there was a total of 163 hands played. From the hand history I believe that this person logged into my account and played 64 hands prior to "B" sitting down at the same table. Please note that the first 64 hands prior to "B" sitting down the average winning pot was only $38.29. This is very important to remember once you see how the 65 hands after "B" sat down was different. The first 5 hands I am going to post are 5 hands prior to "B" sitting down and playing. You will see in these hands when he sat down but he did not play for several hands after. I am showing these 1st 5 hands to show the sytle of play for the 1st 64 hands. There is no erratic play, there is very few large reraises and there is very few if none all in shoves. If you want to see any of the other 59 hands prior to "B" sitting down I would be more than happy to show you more. They will all look similar in style to these first 64. Also I want you to know I will be posting these hands in the order they were played. It will not be every single hand obviously but they will be in the order they were played. The 1st 5 I am going to show were 5 consecutive hands played. After I show the first 5 hands I am going to post another 7 hands of what I consider to be an obvious chip dump. (These 7 were not even the 7 most obvious) The 65 hands that were played while "your" and "B" were at the same table the winning pot average was $385.40. Now if you remember the 1st 64 hands prior to "B" sitting down that average was only $38.29. That is a big difference. What changed in these next 65 hands and why? You will also see from these "chip dump" hands how much the style of play changed. "Your" went from checking hands down and playing somewhat conservatly to reraising and shoving all-in with nothing. You will see from these hands that "B" sat down with $150.00. He left 65 hands later with $6,233.76. If anyone would like to see more hands after the chip dump started I would be more than happy to share those also. There are several other hands that are played just as these last 7 I am going to show you. Take a look at these facts, take a look at these hands and let me know what you think. One more thing before I start, online companies are aware of "chip dumbs" and that is why I belive "your" and "B" had planned for "your" to play 65 hands prior to "B" sitting down. I also belive that is why they had "your" play about 30 more hands after "B" left. They tried to do this somewhat under the radar but you when try to move this much money from one person to the next it is going to look fishy. Enough said here we go. Next 5 posts will be 5 consecutive hands played prior to "B" sitting down and playing.

[justwinthisone]

Hand #1 (Hand is played prior to "B" sitting down and playing
so you can see here nothing crazy, no big reraises or no all ins

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[justwinthisone]

Hand #2 (Hand is played prior to "B" Sitting down and playing)

Same style as last hand. Nothing crazy


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[justwinthisone]

Hand #3 (Hand played prior to "B" actually plaing hand but you can see his starting balance)

Still no crazy reraise of foolish chace.....


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[justwinthisone]

Hand #4 ("B" has still not yet played a hand)

Notice how this one checks all the way around......in the "chip dump" hands you will see "your" bet like a crazy man with hands far worse than this...


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[justwinthisone]

Hand #5 ("B" has still not played a hand.....)

OK so that is 5 consecutive hands prior to "B" sitting down. You did not see any crazy stuff from "Your" Take a look at the next 7

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