1. #36
    BetJesus
    BetJesus's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 12-18-18
    Posts: 147
    Betpoints: 310

    Quote Originally Posted by MrCavalier View Post
    Another story about another stand up book robbing a player.. And you blame the player typical..
    Nobody blamed the player, just inclined to withhold judgement.

  2. #37
    MrCavalier
    MrCavalier's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 12-26-18
    Posts: 279
    Betpoints: 12

    Quote Originally Posted by BetJesus View Post
    Nobody blamed the player, just inclined to withhold judgement.
    Pretty cut and dry case bud.. but each thy own

  3. #38
    mfins
    mfins's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 06-24-08
    Posts: 73
    Betpoints: 978

    This is incredible to me and I must say the OP is handling this in a very mature manner. Excuse my naivety as I am not a poker player but can someone explain....
    A free play is where you are given a chance to win real money in a tournament requiring no money to enter. If you win the tournament the free play money then turns into real money or pomo money? So if it is real money you can withdraw it if it is promo money you must play it. Well assuming you have to play it eventually it somehow must get converted to real money. In this case after three years I am assuming it was converted. OP played it and hit a huge pay day. Whether he deposited it or won the money what difference does it make. He won a tournament originally which earned him the free money. Please let me know what I am missing if anything. thxs

  4. #39
    pablo222
    pablo222's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 01-03-19
    Posts: 3,577
    Betpoints: 1353

    The prize goes into your real money account. I then played cash tables on and off. During these games each pot is raked about 10 percent. The rake that was generated in those games real money games must of made them thousands. When you play the bad beat jackpot table extra rake goes onto the table and into the bad beat jackpot.

    $20
    Angelman
    donation 02/17/2020


  5. #40
    littlekona
    littlekona's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 11-19-15
    Posts: 4,198
    Betpoints: 1960

    Is five dimes poker a skin or self contained exclusive site

  6. #41
    mfins
    mfins's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 06-24-08
    Posts: 73
    Betpoints: 978

    Quote Originally Posted by pablo222 View Post
    The prize goes into your real money account. I then played cash tables on and off. During these games each pot is raked about 10 percent. The rake that was generated in those games real money games must of made them thousands. When you play the bad beat jackpot table extra rake goes onto the table and into the bad beat jackpot.
    Gotcha, So whether you deposited it or won it in a promotion they offered then you earned it fair and square and its yours to use as you please. 5 dimes is taking the stance that you abused the system for years and never really contributed to the site with hard cash. They look at you as a free loader or someone who gained the system. Not my opinion but clearly theirs. I would not say they have stolen the money (although i know you feel they stole it from you) unless they did not put it back in the pot. Has anyone verified whether they have put it back or just pocketed it? Seems cut and dry that you are owed the money. The story is starting to gain traction online and in the gambling world. I saw someone offered for you to do a radio show. Do it! Get your story out! If 5dimes is smart they will reverse the decision and use this as good publicity. " Player turns a free role on our site into 54K" What a great story. Unfortunately books/casinos feel players will do anything they can to screw them. Most take a very hard, cynical, and skeptical approach. I understand it to an extent as they need to protect them selves but, in this case it has gone too far. SBR in my experience has been very helpful at resolving disputes. Take them up on their offer to file a dispute.

  7. #42
    goduke
    goduke's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-17-10
    Posts: 6,682
    Betpoints: 52

    Quote Originally Posted by tradeout View Post
    technically he was not contributing since he never deposited real cash
    But heís contributing because he played at real tables after that. So if heís winning someone else is losing their money and depositing. 5dimes needs to make this right. I would also like to know if they put that money back into the bad beat jackpot. If they pocketed it then they need to be put on blast everywhere

  8. #43
    ljump12
    ljump12's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 12-08-09
    Posts: 108
    Betpoints: 180

    Iíve played a lot of poker on 5d in the past... as a smaller poker player Iíve always loved the allure of the bbjp on the 25/50nl. This is an absolutely disgusting story.., Iíve dumped thousands into the sports book and will immediately start looking for a new book.

    Doesnít make sense to me why they wouldnít pay it out... itís not even their money (like a casino jackpot) they rake it from players. Besides, theyíre just gonna hold onto it for a different winner anyway.

    Iím sorry OP, I hope this gets resolved for you.

  9. #44
    eaglesfan371
    The great game of POT...LIMIT...OMAHA
    eaglesfan371's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 01-07-19
    Posts: 4,086
    Betpoints: 119

    I believe 5dimes is part of several sites using the same poker platform, this is to increase the number of players overall.

    Thus, the bad beat jackpot is likely a joined pool, where each skin has the money set aside from its players who played and they pay the poker platform pool. When a player hits the BBJ, the skin, here 5dimes, receives the money from the pool. There is no follow up with if the player is actually paid, generally the skin site just receives the money.

    Thus, most likely 5dimes is pocketing the money. This can be argued the same as both online and in person casinos have progressive slots that link up between casinos. Think of ďMega BucksĒ, where the casino would pay out the player and then receive the jackpot progressive funds from the progressive pool that many casinos paid into.

    Their argument of him not depositing is invalid IMO. The money was being raked, he never cheated the game and paid the drop. There have been stories of freeroll winners building up their online poker bankrolls on Pokerstars and other sites. Pretty bad that a site would do something shady like this.

  10. #45
    pablo222
    pablo222's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 01-03-19
    Posts: 3,577
    Betpoints: 1353

    5dimes has their own poker room called Grand poker. There are no skins. They are trying to pocket the money, because they have not put the money they took from me back into the BBJ. They don't understand the optics of changing the rule 6 days after my win, and trying to pocket the money. Sports bettors shouldn't keep any significant money on there as it seems they unable to pay out any significant wins. I have read of them refusing to pay out when players hit 5 team parlays.

    $20
    Angelman
    donation 02/17/2020


  11. #46
    sweep
    Elevator going up, next level
    sweep's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 10-09-10
    Posts: 16,602
    Betpoints: 72

    just read about this on FLushDraw

    horrible

  12. #47
    Greenline
    Greenline's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-05-17
    Posts: 162
    Betpoints: 157

    Absolutely disgraceful by 5Dimes.

  13. #48
    sweep
    Elevator going up, next level
    sweep's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 10-09-10
    Posts: 16,602
    Betpoints: 72


  14. #49
    sweep
    Elevator going up, next level
    sweep's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 10-09-10
    Posts: 16,602
    Betpoints: 72

    Interesting post from another site, the MUST DEPOSIT rule was added to there T&C's after this guy hit the jackpot. Dick move 5dimes

    Quote Originally Posted by sweep View Post

  15. #50
    BIGF23
    BIGF23's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 12-30-18
    Posts: 40
    Betpoints: 68

    its crazy how some of these sites operarate. I have had balances with Heritage over 20k and never had any problems with them.

  16. #51
    MrCavalier
    MrCavalier's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 12-26-18
    Posts: 279
    Betpoints: 12

    Like I said in another thread, when money is involved itís a dog eat dog world.. There arenít A plus bookies just books that take longer to fck you than others..

  17. #52
    ljump12
    ljump12's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 12-08-09
    Posts: 108
    Betpoints: 180

    I think SBR has to investigate this and get a resolution for OP. Particularly one that involves returning all 54k. If OP didn't leave out any details, anything less in my opinion is straight stealing. No way can 5dimes be an A+ book... should go straight to F.

  18. #53
    thagame24
    thagame24's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 08-23-07
    Posts: 153
    Betpoints: 633

    Retarded move by 5dimes. Don't have a bad beat jackpot if you don't intend to pay it; the rake was collected for the jackpot. In a sense it doesn't and shouldn't matter who wins the pot as the pot is PRE FUNDED via rake. The jackpot hitting costs them all of zero dollars... Unless they've already robbed Peter (the bad beat pot) to pay Paul (sportsbook winners), which is certainly what this smells like.
    175 pts

    3-QUESTION
    SBR TRIVIA WINNER 09/21/2020

    175 pts

    3-QUESTION
    SBR TRIVIA WINNER 09/17/2020


  19. #54
    pretentiousGuy
    pretentiousGuy's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-13-18
    Posts: 136
    Betpoints: 1543

    A+ btw. ROFL

  20. #55
    pablo222
    pablo222's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 01-03-19
    Posts: 3,577
    Betpoints: 1353

    Quote Originally Posted by ljump12 View Post
    I think SBR has to investigate this and get a resolution for OP. Particularly one that involves returning all 54k. If OP didn't leave out any details, anything less in my opinion is straight stealing. No way can 5dimes be an A+ book... should go straight to F.
    I agree with you 100 percent. I have been contacted by sportsbookreview.com as they are looking into this.

    $20
    Angelman
    donation 02/17/2020


  21. #56
    SBR Forum
    SBR Forum's Avatar Administrator
    Join Date: 12-02-06
    Posts: 4,510
    Betpoints: 95420

    Quote Originally Posted by ljump12 View Post
    I think SBR has to investigate this and get a resolution for OP. Particularly one that involves returning all 54k. If OP didn't leave out any details, anything less in my opinion is straight stealing. No way can 5dimes be an A+ book... should go straight to F.
    5Dimes is paying the player the full amount. The rule about having to have deposited to claim a BBJ was supposed to have been published and appeared later than intended, but the player in good faith participated and will be paid.
    Nomination(s):
    This post was nominated 2 times . To view the nominated thread please click here. People who nominated: LLXC, and Auto Donk

    SBR Bash
    Punta Cana
    Attendee 2/4/2017


  22. #57
    BetJesus
    BetJesus's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 12-18-18
    Posts: 147
    Betpoints: 310

    Quote Originally Posted by SBR Forum View Post
    5Dimes is paying the player the full amount. The rule about having to have deposited to claim a BBJ was supposed to have been published and appeared later than intended, but the player in good faith participated and will be paid.
    Thatís awesome for the player, but the rule is nothing more than common sense. Hard to believe 5Dimes was so ignorant as to not add that immediately.

  23. #58
    SBR Forum
    SBR Forum's Avatar Administrator
    Join Date: 12-02-06
    Posts: 4,510
    Betpoints: 95420

    Quote Originally Posted by BetJesus View Post
    That’s awesome for the player, but the rule is nothing more than common sense. Hard to believe 5Dimes was so ignorant as to not add that immediately.
    Whenever humans are involved in drafting anything or manual action is needed (props a good example industry wide) some mistakes are bound to happen. But how books handle complaints is what separates the top rated sites from the rest of the pack.

    SBR Bash
    Punta Cana
    Attendee 2/4/2017


  24. #59
    ichiro4thehall
    ichiro4thehall's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 12-02-09
    Posts: 235
    Betpoints: 120

    Well done, SBR. You do great work in situations like this sticking up for the little guy. OP was a huge dog to get paid anything. I may disagree with some of your ratings but you are no doubt a force for good for the players.

    Where does this rank in the most money you've help get returned to a player? I'm sure there has been larger amounts in the past but I can't recall them off the top of my head.

  25. #60
    BetJesus
    BetJesus's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 12-18-18
    Posts: 147
    Betpoints: 310

    Quote Originally Posted by SBR Forum View Post
    Whenever humans are involved in drafting anything or manual action is needed (props a good example industry wide) some mistakes are bound to happen. But how books handle complaints is what separates the top rated sites from the rest of the pack.
    I absolutely agree. Iím just glad the man was paid what he was owed.

  26. #61
    littlekona
    littlekona's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 11-19-15
    Posts: 4,198
    Betpoints: 1960

    Congratulations sir...that’s a nice hit

  27. #62
    cx89
    cx89's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 05-07-18
    Posts: 58
    Betpoints: 1075

    Well done SBR.

  28. #63
    maritsa1819
    T27
    maritsa1819's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 06-14-18
    Posts: 853
    Betpoints: 1003

    Quote Originally Posted by cx89 View Post
    Well done SBR.
    Well done 5dimes

  29. #64
    BigDaddy
    BigDaddy's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-01-06
    Posts: 8,364
    Betpoints: 636

    great news!

    good job SBR!

  30. #65
    sweep
    Elevator going up, next level
    sweep's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 10-09-10
    Posts: 16,602
    Betpoints: 72


  31. #66
    pablo222
    pablo222's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 01-03-19
    Posts: 3,577
    Betpoints: 1353

    I am almost speechless
    I have just received the news from Matt of SBR that I will be paid in full!!! Thank you to Matt and all of SBR for your support in this matter. Also thank you to Optional for him in dealing with my mistake. I would like to show my gratefulness to SBR any way I can.

    $20
    Angelman
    donation 02/17/2020


  32. #67
    Optional
    Optional's Avatar Moderator
    Join Date: 06-10-10
    Posts: 45,931
    Betpoints: 29240

    Quote Originally Posted by pablo222 View Post
    I am almost speechless
    I have just received the news from Matt of SBR that I will be paid in full!!! Thank you to Matt and all of SBR for your support in this matter. Also thank you to Optional for him in dealing with my mistake. I would like to show my gratefulness to SBR any way I can.
    Very happy to see you paid so fast Pablo. Enjoy your winnings

    $20
    Angelman
    donation 02/17/2020

    SBR Bash
    Punta Cana
    Attendee 2/4/2017


  33. #68
    michael777
    michael777's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-20-05
    Posts: 1,936
    Betpoints: 3125

    Pablo,i need a loan

  34. #69
    brownsfan
    brownsfan's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-25-12
    Posts: 387
    Betpoints: 498

    Thanks to 5dimes for standing up and doing the right thing!

  35. #70
    JoeCool20
    SBR Poker is ALL Freakin Wild Donk Luck!
    JoeCool20's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 05-31-18
    Posts: 3,854
    Betpoints: 12

    Quote Originally Posted by cx89 View Post
    I would file a complaint with SBR but don't hold your breathe the likelihood they will do anything is slightly above 0%. Sadly SBR has no ethical standards and will not upset any book who pay them $.



    LOL Boy don't I wish I could post something like that! I have one mod so far up my ass he'd ban me for a month for posting something HALF as agressive (but truthful) as this!

    I'd give $54 k just to be able to post anything NEAR this on here without "penalty". LOL

First 1234 Last
Top