Sportsbook requesting Ewallet last 6 months transaction list

[slayer8888]

Been through a lot of books and never had this one. Anyone else been asked for full 6 months transaction list? I have been asked just for profile screenshot and screenshot of the actual transaction.

Surely there is some privacy something, something. Haven't listed books name yet as I wanted a general discussion on peoples thoughts? Book is licensed by MGA.

[lonnie55]

Campobet asked me for a 3 month history: https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...l#post28482959

LSbet even asked a player for his entire Skrill history: https://www.sportsbookreview.com/spo...history-55984/

And a few weeks ago Tipster has asked me for a source of income, so I had to show them my Skrill history for 2019 and also had to provide them with dozens of screenshots of betting histories of other sportsbooks. I also had to explain what AC is and why they are sending money from private Skrill accounts. The investigation is still ongoing with payouts currently locked.

[LAbra2k]

Why don´t you say the name of the bookie?

[slayer8888]

Cheers Lonnie. At Labra2k, didn't mention sportsbook name as wanted a general discussion on the matter. Anyhow. sportsbook is betrebels.

I can provide the history if its legit required but im stubborn and was querying if it was normal elsewhere and lawful.

Might query the MGA.

[Optional]

Cheers Lonnie. At Labra2k, didn't mention sportsbook name as wanted a general discussion on the matter. Anyhow. sportsbook is betrebels.

I can provide the history if its legit required but im stubborn and was querying if it was normal elsewhere and lawful.

Might query the MGA.

In May this year the UK Gambling Commission issued a directive that books needed to do more to identify Source of Wealth (SoW) and Source of Funds (SoF) from players.

Books that have dual licenses with MGA and UKGC have been following the UK rules for both jurisdictions and MGA have been agreeing to it.


Betrebels does not appear to be UK licensed but all these UK rules end up being used by Euro books like this when it suits them and I'd assume the MGA will allow that too.

6 months of Skrill history is more than most people are asked for usually. But I doubt you are going to get anywhere trying to refuse now :\


The MGA also has new rules that says its books must provide a 3rd party dispute mediation option if you cannot agree with them, as a last option. But really you are trying to push mud uphill hoping to get a result you want.

[xKMACKx]

I was asked for a screenshot of my e-wallet dashboard by William Hill to verify my account. That's the most extensive KYC I've had.

[ichiro4thehall]

I'd be peeved too by this request but there are one of two things happeneing here. The book is stalling and will pay if you provide these details that they have zero right to ask for, or the book is not going to pay you and will just keep making ridiculous requests until you say you won't comply and they'll give this as a reasonj for not paying.

Either way the MGA is not going to help you one bit. From my experience, and I've lived in Malta, they are an organisation solely created to take money from whoever wants to run a sportsbook there and offer virtuaslly no oversight or experise, merely the illusion of this to persuade players an independent body is governing things.

Best bet is to provide those details and cross your fingers. If they don't pay after that your money is gone imo.

[slayer8888]

In May this year the UK Gambling Commission issued a directive that books needed to do more to identify Source of Wealth (SoW) and Source of Funds (SoF) from players.

Books that have dual licenses with MGA and UKGC have been following the UK rules for both jurisdictions and MGA have been agreeing to it.


Betrebels does not appear to be UK licensed but all these UK rules end up being used by Euro books like this when it suits them and I'd assume the MGA will allow that too.

6 months of Skrill history is more than most people are asked for usually. But I doubt you are going to get anywhere trying to refuse now :\


The MGA also has new rules that says its books must provide a 3rd party dispute mediation option if you cannot agree with them, as a last option. But really you are trying to push mud uphill hoping to get a result you want.

Cheers Optional, this was the information I was looking for. Pretty aware I was never going to get anywhere not sending the 6th months transactions but just wanted to check here anyhow. As someone who tries to make a percentage of his living from betting sports these kind of overbearing requests just make me twitch at times. If I automatically agree without saying anything, it makes it easier for this to become standard and the industry continues to head towards a game only losers can play.

This 3rd party dispute option being the MBA is the 3rd party?

[slayer8888]

I was asked for a screenshot of my e-wallet dashboard by William Hill to verify my account. That's the most extensive KYC I've had.

Have had many books request this and would say it's on its way to being standard

[xKMACKx]

Have had many books request this and would say it's on its way to being standard

Yeah, this was on deposit. First book to ask for info on a deposit as well.

[turbobets]

Ridiculous nanny state trying to protect gamblers from themselves. This is what happens when you vote for bigger government.

[LAbra2k]

Ridiculous nanny state trying to protect gamblers from themselves. This is what happens when you vote for bigger government.

had nothing to do with protecting gamblers lol
it´s protecting there money which they lose against the bettor and now trying to make it hard as possible for the customer to withdrawal

did you take any bonus slayer or they might be think you are betting for your friend ect.?

[slayer8888]

Didn't take bonus but yea they just making life hard for me. If you read reviews which I did before hand they are sub par book who are known to cause issues. I took the risk as they had markets I liked.

[lonnie55]

I remember times when KYC was not necessary at all if the total amount of payouts didn't exceed 2,300 EUR.

Then the first books asked for the ID card.

Later some books extended their KYC procedure by asking for utility bills, bank statements, eWallet screenshots etc.

Now we've got to a point where it is almost standard or at least not uncommon that books ask for selfies whilst holding the ID card near the face. Other books even ask for an extra selfie where you have to hold the daily newspaper or a paper where you have to write down the name of the book into the cam.

And that's not even the peak of it all. KYC is getting heavier and heavier. Books asking for this and that and right when you think 'okay, finally I am through all this' they come around the corner asking for the next ridiculous thing like a video call or whatever. As I said before, Tipster.de asked me not only for a source of income, they asked me a hundred questions about all of these transactions. I had to make a statemement about who AsianConnect is and why they send me money from a private Skrill account. It's the first time something like that happened to me in 8 years of betting.

On the one hand I understand that books want to protect themselves against bonus abusers. But as someone who never took a bonus, free bet, promotional thing whatsoever it's hard to believe that books only follow KYC guidelines. It might be the case here and there, especially when we talk about UK books like Optional showed. But my feeling is the vast majority of extended KYC cases are about stalling payouts like LAbra2k said. They don't want to protect themselves against bonus abusers but protect their own money from losing it to customers. With extended KYC they have found an allegedly "legit" way to not only stall payouts but also to not pay out at all if the customer fails the KYC.

Slayer has a good point. Don't make it too easy for the books. Otherwise they will set the bar higher and higher if there is no resistence at all. GL

[LAbra2k]

Full agree with you lonnie. Things getting tougher and tougher.

Didn't take bonus but yea they just making life hard for me. If you read reviews which I did before hand they are sub par book who are known to cause issues. I took the risk as they had markets I liked.

I´ve done a quick research. One guy had the same experience about the transactions. He gambled and lost all his winnings.
Don´t do the same misstake. Good luck mate.

[Optional]

Cheers Optional, this was the information I was looking for. Pretty aware I was never going to get anywhere not sending the 6th months transactions but just wanted to check here anyhow. As someone who tries to make a percentage of his living from betting sports these kind of overbearing requests just make me twitch at times. If I automatically agree without saying anything, it makes it easier for this to become standard and the industry continues to head towards a game only losers can play.

This 3rd party dispute option being the MBA is the 3rd party?

It does not say on the Betrebels site as it is supposed to, but so far it has been eCogra for all MGA books I have seen since the rule came in.

[slayer8888]

But my feeling is the vast majority of extended KYC cases are about stalling payouts like LAbra2k said. They don't want to protect themselves against bonus abusers but protect their own money from losing it to customers. With extended KYC they have found an allegedly "legit" way to not only stall payouts but also to not pay out at all if the customer fails the KYC.

Slayer has a good point. Don't make it too easy for the books. Otherwise they will set the bar higher and higher if there is no resistence at all. GL

This is 100% a reality in my experience with 150 books now. Nothing more than stalling techniques and protecting there own money. I just wish there was actuall regulation. Thanks god for SBR and sites alike along with all the individuals writing reviews etc. We know the risks and we still choose to play.