Wilforth and Smogs World Cup Collaboration

[Ace_of_Spades]

Will seek info from this thread

[Wilforth]

Just testing with a friendly:

Ghana/Latvia UNDER 2.5 (-140)

[Wilforth]

Just testing with a friendly:

Ghana/Latvia UNDER 2.5 (-140) WIN

Good start.

[Smogs]

Good omen for the thread

What are your views for opening day wil?

[Tommy_de1st]

Yeah, baby

[Wilforth]

Good omen for the thread

What are your views for opening day wil?

I'll PM you those before getting them here.

[Squirrel]

Good luck fellas

[Netprofit]

This is SBR OFFICIAL WORLD CUP THREAD, good luck and win a lot of money!

[Smogs]

Hoping to have picks for 11th-12th June locked tonight including futures, just waiting on Wil and they should be up

[Imgoinhungry]

Sweeeeet! Looking forward to it.

[Smogs]

Sweeeeet! Looking forward to it.

Thanks for the points

[Tommy_de1st]

Let's get serious guys.
I'll chime in my 2c if you don't mind

[D3 Mighty Ducks]

My opening days leans are of now are:

Mexico 1H ML +261
Mexico/South Africa 1H OVER 0.5 -120

No play on the France/Uruguay game later on that day unless you guys have a solid pick and valid reasoning.

[Smogs]

Let's get serious guys.
I'll chime in my 2c if you don't mind

Let's definitely get serious

I have nothing to do tomorrow so will be finalising leans and analysis etc

My opening days leans are of now are:

Mexico 1H ML +261
Mexico/South Africa 1H OVER 0.5 -120

No play on the France/Uruguay game later on that day unless you guys have a solid pick and valid reasoning.

Lining up a play for both opening games, just need to finalise them

[Tommy_de1st]

There were some upsets in the World Cup opener. These are some history facts worth remembering:

Openers:
1978 Germany-Poland 0-0
1982 Argentina-Belgium 0-1
1986 Italy-bulgaria 1-1
1990 Argentina-Cameroon 0-1
1994 USA-Switzerland 1-1
1998 Brasil-Scotland 2-1 (own goal)
2002 France-Senegal 0-1
2006 Geramany-CostaRica 4-2

2010 South Africa-Mexico ?-?

I went as far as 1978 and we can spot some big upsets. Most of the games ended Under 2.5
How is it gonna be this year? Actually I like Over in this one but it won't be surprise if the match ends 1-1

[Imgoinhungry]

I'm interested in seeing what your play is going to be on the France/Uruguay game. I'm hoping it's the under as that's what I am thinking!

[Shark79]

Obviously the problem on SBR will be who qualifies from Group C, Slovenia or USA.

Lots of squares who can't point Slovenia on a map will unload all over USA, but Slovenia is looking a sharp play. i'll probably be watching Slovenia/Algeria more intently than England/USA from the betting angle of it

That is exactly what my intentions are.

That particular game if well played by Slovenia can give them the next round ticket if they tie up in points with USA but have a better GD.

[Imgoinhungry]

I can't take the suspense! When are Friday selections going to be posted? Tomorrow?

[cro]

My opening days leans are of now are:

Mexico/South Africa 1H OVER 0.5 -120

good 1

[mihaita666]

I like this over for the first half, I might play it

[Imgoinhungry]

4:00... just put in a long days work. Come home looking forward to seeing tomorrow's selection.... and it's not up yet! Killing me here guys!

Looking forward to the picks smogs and wilforth.

[Wilforth]

4:00... just put in a long days work. Come home looking forward to seeing tomorrow's selection.... and it's not up yet! Killing me here guys!

Looking forward to the picks smogs and wilforth.

They'll soon be out. Seriously.

[Hybris]

BOL guys

[Smogs]

Sorry for the wait guys, me and Wilforth have been talking over the last couple of days about picks for 11th-12th June, so we can give a couple of days notice for picks.
We also have been looking over future bets and trying to attach an agreed stake size to them all.

So here goes....

Futures Bets

Serbia to qualify from Group D @ 5/6 for 4 Units

This is our favourite bet futures wise. Serbia have a squad capable of winning the group and are built on a top defence. Milos Krasic in the midfield is quickly becoming world class and i think they are the most settled Serbian team we have ever seen.

Slovenia to qualify from Group C @ 7/4 for 3 Units (Wil wanted 4 units, i wanted 2 units so we took the middle ground)

Won't sit well with many SBR members but we have to play this based on value and technical ability of the squad. Robert Koren is well known for his time in England and he typifies a creative midfield that will cause Group C opponents a lot of problems. Cracking odds on this bet.

Japan to finish bottom of Group E @ 5/6 for 2 Units

Really feel Japan have no hope in this group and will struggle to score at all. The best they can hope for is draws or nicking a 1-0 win somewhere. Lack any creativity or attacking edge

Those are the bets we agreed on, and any seperate bets we both have will be posted in this thread also.
I personally am betting:

1st Holland, 2nd Denmark @ 11/4 for 2 Units

1st Germany, 2nd Serbia @ 11/4 for 2 Units

David Villa To Goal Scorer @ 8/1 for 2 Units

Brazil to win the Whole Thing @ 4/1 for 5 Units

The latter 4 future bets will not count towards our overall record unless Wilforth agrees with them. The key to this thread is unity in betting, to improve our ability to pick winners.

* There was one bet that i thought had snuck under all radars, and that was Jong Tae Se to be top N Korean goal scorer @ 11/4. HOWEVER, Bet365 would class a push or no goals scored as a loser, so that bet has been thrown out. If DPR score any goals, he will be responsible.

11th-12th June Picks in the next post

[cro]

Agree with Japan
Brazil always worth a little bet
Villa, yeh take a shot.

the rest not for me. Good luck guys

[Smogs]

11th-13th June Picks

France/Uruguay 1H draw @ 21/20 for 2 Units

Expect a close game here and wouldn't be surprised to see a 0-0 draw. Yes both teams have very good attacking options but France came out of a qualifying campaign unsure of themselves, and scored just ONE goal in Euro 2008.
Uruguay will have to be careful not play too open, which is what they did against Israel in a friendly i watched not too long ago.

Slovenia -0.25 vs. Algeria @ 19/20 for 2 Units

Nobody talks about Algeria and we will hopefully see why. Just dropped their captain and will rely far too much on the big stars they have. If Slovenia fail to win we can wave bye bye to the Slovenia future bet.


2-teamer: England ML vs USA / Germany ML vs. Australia @ 5/4 for 4 Units

Biggest bet of the opening days and i personally am most worried about USA throwing a spanner in the works. Cannot see the Aussies doing much tp stop Germany winning this group. USA friggin worry me, or should i say England to get the win.

Greece DNB vs South Korea @ 1.875 for 2 Units

Otto Rehagel has talked much of them going back to their 2004 setup, and if they do that successfully they'll win this game 1-0 in the 70th minute like they did 6 years ago. Still have credibility up front and the team spirit that will keep them playing smart football.

Serbia -0.25 Vs Ghana @ 1.825 for 2 Units

Ghana look strong but no Essien is a big blow and Serbia have more strength to win this. Taking -0.25 for a bit of safety this early in the tourney.

Quite a lot of flat betting for this first couple of matches, just want to see how things go early on. We had to leave Mexico out as a collaboration bet because of some suspicion of this whole Host country feel.

However, i cannot let the draw @ 9/4 in the opening game slip as a bet for me and the over 2 goals @ 1.825

I'm betting 2 Units on both

Good luck and tune in for any other picks.

Try to respect the fact that if you tail and lose, WE lose. So nobody will be happy. We have put a lot of homework into this World Cup and all picks are made with money management and research as top priority.

[cro]

is -0.25?
pk and 0.5

[Smogs]

yup

[Imgoinhungry]

Awesome. Thanks and BOL!

[Cuse4tw]

anyone liking over 2 in the opening game?

[Imgoinhungry]

Sorry for being such a newb w/ soccer betting, but what is -.25 and DNB?

[Smogs]

anyone liking over 2 in the opening game?

You'll see i have 2 units on it

Sorry for being such a newb w/ soccer betting, but what is -.25 and DNB?

-0.25 is Pk and -0.5, or half stakes lost with draw.

DNB is draw no bet, stakes returned with draw

[Squirrel]

GL Smogs - Liking some of those picks

[Smogs]

Have to go down to Liverpool early tomorrow, so as long as i haven't had my car twocked i'll be back just before gametime.

Good luck with your bets guys

[ebbearsfb1]

what does this mean

Fri 6/11 02:30PM Circle6005FranceGame
Props pk,-½ +108 Over 1 +135 6006Uruguaypk,+½ -128 Under 1 -155

for pk, -1/2???? cause pk is a a return on a draw but then -.5??? i don't get it